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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2670 on: May 19, 2014, 10:44:52 AM »
May I just offer thanks and say that this thread is extremely useful.

We're fortunate that we don't get many scams but among the few we get, some have shown up here even before they appear in Snopes.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2671 on: May 21, 2014, 11:35:08 AM »
Just as, in parliamentary procedure, a motion to adjourn is always in order ... a request for "may I tell him who is calling, please?" is always in order. Regardless of whose phone or residence it is.

I disagree strongly.  If it is not your house, you have no standing to ask who is calling, it is up to the resident to decide if they want to tell you I think.

"May I tell him who is calling, please" implies that you have standing to ask that question, and have gotten a request from the resident to screen their calls, if that is not the case, then it just seems like you are being nosy to ask.  If someone answered the phone at my house, even if I asked them to grab it cause I wasn't near it or something, I would be very peeved if they decided to ask who was calling for me.  It isn't their business.

me too !

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« Reply #2672 on: May 21, 2014, 12:16:43 PM »
I don't know if last night's door-to-door (pest control) salesman was a scammer or not, but he was doing the "I'm working the neighborhood this week, so I have a special" spiel. It's a service we've been considering getting, but he wouldn't give me a business card, and I would have had to sign up right then.  I'll pass, thanks.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2673 on: May 21, 2014, 12:32:26 PM »
This was probably clueless of me, but I got a phone call which gave me a recording saying they were looking for "Random Man." The recording said that if I did NOT know Random Man, then I should "press 2." So I pressed 2, and after a second, someone in a busy call center came on the line and said "So to confirm, this is Random Man speaking?" I said "Uh, no. It said to press 2 if I don't know him, and I don't." Then the caller hung up me.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2674 on: May 21, 2014, 01:13:13 PM »
Not a scam, but an interesting sales tactic...

You know those zipper-top bags businesses sometimes use to transport cash to/from the bank? I got a miniature one in the mail yesterday. It was a sales pitch from a loan company I've never heard of, enclosed in a letter-sized zipper-top bank bag, with a mailing label and proper postage on the front.

They won't get my business, but they do get points for a memorable mail ad.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2675 on: May 21, 2014, 01:44:18 PM »
I don't know if last night's door-to-door (pest control) salesman was a scammer or not, but he was doing the "I'm working the neighborhood this week, so I have a special" spiel. It's a service we've been considering getting, but he wouldn't give me a business card, and I would have had to sign up right then.  I'll pass, thanks.
In most places, pest control companies have serious licensing and other legal requirements. Good chance the "company" is a couple o f guys who are unlicensed, carry no insurance, and plan on using chemicals obtained from who-knows-where.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2676 on: May 21, 2014, 01:50:03 PM »
This was probably clueless of me, but I got a phone call which gave me a recording saying they were looking for "Random Man." The recording said that if I did NOT know Random Man, then I should "press 2." So I pressed 2, and after a second, someone in a busy call center came on the line and said "So to confirm, this is Random Man speaking?" I said "Uh, no. It said to press 2 if I don't know him, and I don't." Then the caller hung up me.

Sounds like bill collectors.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2677 on: May 21, 2014, 02:02:04 PM »
I've been getting calls from an Oregon number, but they never leave messages. I searched the number online and it is a scammer that promises grants from the government in exchange for all your personal information. Number blocked.
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« Reply #2678 on: May 21, 2014, 02:31:26 PM »
I don't know if last night's door-to-door (pest control) salesman was a scammer or not, but he was doing the "I'm working the neighborhood this week, so I have a special" spiel. It's a service we've been considering getting, but he wouldn't give me a business card, and I would have had to sign up right then.  I'll pass, thanks.

Sounds like a possible ruse burglary to me.  You decide to sign up.  He tells you he has to come inside to see what type of service you'll need.  He distracts you in one room and his heretofore unseen associate comes in and cleans out whatever he/she can while you are busy with the other guy.

Or in another scenario, he tells you he has to come in and asks questions about the layout and where things may be stored so they are careful not to spray any harmful pesticides where valuables might be.  Comes back for the first time service and knows where everything is.

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« Reply #2679 on: May 21, 2014, 02:37:02 PM »
This was probably clueless of me, but I got a phone call which gave me a recording saying they were looking for "Random Man." The recording said that if I did NOT know Random Man, then I should "press 2." So I pressed 2, and after a second, someone in a busy call center came on the line and said "So to confirm, this is Random Man speaking?" I said "Uh, no. It said to press 2 if I don't know him, and I don't." Then the caller hung up me.

I've been getting ones asking for Random Woman. Only the options are to press 1 if I am her, and 2 if I will be able to get her in a little while. No option for "she's not here right now," let alone "you have the wrong number." I have tried pressing 1 and 2, and they both just put me back in the loop of "press 1 if you are Random Woman, press 2 if not." I was hoping that one or the other would make it possible to tell them "Random Woman is not at this number, stop calling."

If this is a scam, it's unusually inept: I would at least expect there to be someone who would talk to me if I claimed to be Random Woman.
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« Reply #2680 on: May 21, 2014, 03:24:02 PM »
Not sure if this guy was a scammer or just a bit clueless.  I was working last Friday, and the office was almost empty because it was a Canadian long weekend.  The doorbell to my floor rang (you need to ring the bell if you don't have an employee badge).  When I answered it, a somewhat scruffy fellow said "I was told to come to 123 Blah Street to pay my bill."  I said "Uh, this isn't Blah Street.  It's Yadda Yadda Street."  "Oh, did I say Blah?  I meant Yadda Yadda.  123 Yadda Yadda Street."  "This is still the wrong place.  This is 456 Yadda Yadda."  "Oh.  Then I have to go somewhere else?"  "Yup."  Whereupon he left.

There was something about the way he quickly said "Oh, did I say Blah?" that raised my red flags.  I started mentally reviewing how many people were left in the office, and whether or not they'd hear me if I had to scream.  Luckily, it didn't come to that!
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2681 on: May 21, 2014, 03:27:55 PM »
Not sure if this guy was a scammer or just a bit clueless.  I was working last Friday, and the office was almost empty because it was a Canadian long weekend.  The doorbell to my floor rang (you need to ring the bell if you don't have an employee badge).  When I answered it, a somewhat scruffy fellow said "I was told to come to 123 Blah Street to pay my bill."  I said "Uh, this isn't Blah Street.  It's Yadda Yadda Street."  "Oh, did I say Blah?  I meant Yadda Yadda.  123 Yadda Yadda Street."  "This is still the wrong place.  This is 456 Yadda Yadda."  "Oh.  Then I have to go somewhere else?"  "Yup."  Whereupon he left.

There was something about the way he quickly said "Oh, did I say Blah?" that raised my red flags.  I started mentally reviewing how many people were left in the office, and whether or not they'd hear me if I had to scream.  Luckily, it didn't come to that!

I would leave a note for my fellow employees.  This guy now knows the exact address and might come back, with a better bluff this time.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2682 on: May 21, 2014, 06:40:45 PM »
I don't know if last night's door-to-door (pest control) salesman was a scammer or not, but he was doing the "I'm working the neighborhood this week, so I have a special" spiel. It's a service we've been considering getting, but he wouldn't give me a business card, and I would have had to sign up right then.  I'll pass, thanks.

Sounds like a possible ruse burglary to me.  You decide to sign up.  He tells you he has to come inside to see what type of service you'll need.  He distracts you in one room and his heretofore unseen associate comes in and cleans out whatever he/she can while you are busy with the other guy.

Or in another scenario, he tells you he has to come in and asks questions about the layout and where things may be stored so they are careful not to spray any harmful pesticides where valuables might be.  Comes back for the first time service and knows where everything is.

Possibly.  I wouldn't have let him in, though.  Any bug-spraying we'd want done would be on the outside.  He did go to the trouble of wearing a shirt with a pest control company logo on it.

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« Reply #2683 on: May 23, 2014, 04:37:43 PM »
I've had 2 'notice to appear' e-mails in the last week. I have no idea *which* court I'm supposed to be appearing at, because I have a nasty suspicious mind and didn't open the zip file containing the detailed information about 'my' case.

Apparently the court may make a decision in my absence if I don't appear. Although as the court does not appear to know my name, I am pretty relaxed about that.

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« Reply #2684 on: May 23, 2014, 07:32:53 PM »
Woo, hoo, I got a live one!  Copied exactly as received, with obvious exceptions.

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I particularly like the part where Their security men will head to my City to apprehend me and bring me in for further interrogation.

Funny, I know a number of people who work for NSA (it's one of the area's largest employers) and all of them can formulate a coherent English sentence.  Perhaps Mr. Bluckwall should have one of his colleagues proofread for him?
I note that it has been 2 weeks, and NSA has yet to send one of Their agents to haul me in for questioning...

Wonder where they'd do it, since I can't get in the Ops center (or any other NSA building) without a security clearance?
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