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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #360 on: January 19, 2013, 10:58:51 AM »
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I've noticed a stark increase in panhandlers lately, but I don't know why.

If your place is anything like my town it's because their panhandling is successful. I will never forget one story in a local newspaper several years ago when a young woman was interviewed. She told the story of getting a $20 bill one day from someone at the freeway off-ramp where she sat every day seeking handouts by using a sign and a story that she was saving up to get off the streets and get an apartment. But she never did. She just continued to beg until forced to move on.

And now our downtown streets are filled with them sitting around, lying around and begging. Many of the locals won't even go downtown any more. I feel for the tourists who must think our town consists only of chain stores and beggars.

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« Reply #361 on: January 19, 2013, 03:06:58 PM »
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I've noticed a stark increase in panhandlers lately, but I don't know why.

If your place is anything like my town it's because their panhandling is successful. I will never forget one story in a local newspaper several years ago when a young woman was interviewed. She told the story of getting a $20 bill one day from someone at the freeway off-ramp where she sat every day seeking handouts by using a sign and a story that she was saving up to get off the streets and get an apartment. But she never did. She just continued to beg until forced to move on.

And now our downtown streets are filled with them sitting around, lying around and begging. Many of the locals won't even go downtown any more. I feel for the tourists who must think our town consists only of chain stores and beggars.

A reporter at one of the major Australian networks did a story on panhandlers etc a couple of years back.  He basically went out on the street begging.  He managed to get several hundred dollars a day.   :o 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #362 on: January 19, 2013, 05:29:00 PM »
I just got an email from a nice Russian lady who needs some help with a trunk full of $10,000,000 worth of US bank notes. I can have 45% once the money is safe.

The Subject line (which is the original, not added by a spam filter) was "[Spam-Mail]Please are you interested?"

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« Reply #363 on: January 19, 2013, 07:04:08 PM »


...   The Subject line (which is the original, not added by a spam filter) was "[Spam-Mail]Please are you interested?"

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #364 on: January 19, 2013, 11:26:33 PM »
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I've noticed a stark increase in panhandlers lately, but I don't know why.

If your place is anything like my town it's because their panhandling is successful. I will never forget one story in a local newspaper several years ago when a young woman was interviewed. She told the story of getting a $20 bill one day from someone at the freeway off-ramp where she sat every day seeking handouts by using a sign and a story that she was saving up to get off the streets and get an apartment. But she never did. She just continued to beg until forced to move on.

And now our downtown streets are filled with them sitting around, lying around and begging. Many of the locals won't even go downtown any more. I feel for the tourists who must think our town consists only of chain stores and beggars.

A reporter at one of the major Australian networks did a story on panhandlers etc a couple of years back.  He basically went out on the street begging.  He managed to get several hundred dollars a day.   :o

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BF told me seat of the county has been sending down more welfare people to this town recently.  I don't mean that condescendingly, there are those who need it.  But I've also met the 90 percent or so, spoken in hyperbole, who seem to be on it just to abuse it.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #365 on: January 20, 2013, 07:56:53 AM »
I just got an email from a nice Russian lady who needs some help with a trunk full of $10,000,000 worth of US bank notes. I can have 45% once the money is safe.

The Subject line (which is the original, not added by a spam filter) was "[Spam-Mail]Please are you interested?"

Sounds like an Indian student of mine who was caught cheating on an essay - he had copied and pasted from a website.

His apology email included the line "I am very sorry and will never do [such-and-such thing] again."

I'd love to know where he copypasted that from.

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« Reply #366 on: January 20, 2013, 08:12:50 AM »
There was a panhandler profiled in College Park, MD, who made a living off it.  He actually had an apartment and everything, entirely paid for by the proceeds of his begging.  It was in the campus newspaper.  I always wondered if the newspaper article destroyed his "career."
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #367 on: January 20, 2013, 11:07:25 AM »
It seems to me that if you're making a nice living off of begging and don't intend to stop, you should probably avoid newspaper articles and profiles of yourself.

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« Reply #368 on: January 20, 2013, 03:12:00 PM »
l also can't help feeling that those who really need to beg - the mentally ill who are untreated, the substance abusers sleeping in the gutter without access to hygeine facilities, those that have fallen through society's cracks - are much, much less likely to make hundreds of dollars a day than a young man with the skills and charisma to get and keep a job in the media. I once read an article by a different reporter who dressed as various types of people (rich, pregnant,'ordinary', homeless etc) People were much happier to hand over their cash to someone they related to and who looked like they didn't really need it THAT badly.

Back on topic, I've just come back from a short trip to Melbourne. I found it refreshing that so many  of the beggars there now simply say "Can I have some money please?" without throwing in the insultingly lame story.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #369 on: January 20, 2013, 03:22:52 PM »
In Canberra city (aka Civic), there's a few regular people who are always asking for bus money. It's become so annoying, because they always target me thinking I'll give them some money. I've since tried to avoid civic's panhandlers, which is a lot easier than it once was. But it gets really annoying to be asked for money nearly every time I leave the bus interchange. There was one Indigenous woman who used to ask me every.dingdangity.day when I was working in a pharmacy in civic for money, and I used to tell her she'd asked me before, and that my answer wouldn't change.

Canberra has a lot of beggars, which is ridiculous considering it's the nation's capital.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #370 on: January 20, 2013, 10:17:20 PM »
Canberra has a lot of beggars, which is ridiculous considering it's the nation's capital.

I'm not sure I understand why being the capital would make a difference.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #371 on: January 21, 2013, 03:38:33 AM »
Canberra has a lot of beggars, which is ridiculous considering it's the nation's capital.

I'm not sure I understand why being the capital would make a difference.

Actually, it makes even more sense for them to be here. Canberra's entire economy is based around the public service. If we didn't have the majority of government workers, there would barely be a town here. That also means we have more high level and managerial staff, and as we're the nation's capital we are expected to set the best example to the rest of the country to what goverment workers are like.
Which means that a good 90% or so (accounting for hyperbole) are going to have to follow the government's code of conduct, even after hours. We have to play nice with the beggers, and even when they get aggressive with us for ignoring them we can't really get aggressive back. So Canberra would be a very 'safe' place to beg.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #372 on: January 22, 2013, 04:53:50 AM »
So what would you think of someone who was scamming in a "victimless" way?

After a couple of years of trying to follow her, I quit because it's not like anyone would have listened to me about this and it was just making me bitter.  But from some comments on Facebook, it occurred to me that she is friends with some breast cancer survivors who seem to think she had it too.  WHAT????

She's not doing anything to them, right?  I'm not sure what it would do to call her out.  Calling her out IRL didn't change a thing.  But there is this little thing in the back of my head that worries that she MIGHT take it too far and start hurting vulnerable people.  Also, her income is not steady and she gets into fights with her employers so what if she decides to go pro?

I guess I shouldn't worry about it since I can't do a thing but part of me feels guilty that I'm just sitting back and letting it happen.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #373 on: January 22, 2013, 05:14:49 AM »
Had an encounter with a moocher the other day. A friend is coming to stay from another state. I don't see her very often. She texted me last night to say that she had bumped into a friend on the plane and this friend didn't have the money for accommodation, even at a backpackers hostel. Did I have any ideas? I replied that I didn't, sorry.

But really, either this friend is an idiot or a liar. Who travels to another city by plane without money for accommodation? IMO she could afford it, but didn't want to. She didn't know she would bump into my friend so she couldn't rely on that. But having done so, she figured she could mooch on a third party. I'm sure I was expected to offer my spare bed, which I absolutely was not going to do.

who does this?  DH's cousin.  He met a very sweet, somewhat naive and sheltered girl online and invited himself to stay with her family (she lived with her parents) for two weeks over Christmas.  He showed up with about 10 dollars and took total advantage of the family's unwillingness to throw him out on the street 1500 miles from home.  And he still doesn't understand that he did anything wrong.

Several years ago, one of my friends met somebody online and started a long distance relationship.  He flew to come meet her with no money and a sob story.  He was with her a month before she got rid of him.

I am more of a country girl so while in a major city, I broke one of the rules of the city and gave a woman with a sob story about needing food some money.  It was probably $2 worth of change.  Instead of saying 'thank you' and hitting up the next person like a 'respectable' beggar would do, she looks at the money and says "this isn't enough for a meal".  I turned away in disgust.

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« Reply #374 on: January 22, 2013, 04:02:27 PM »
Regarding blog/community scammers, I used to get sucked into some of the more dramatic stories but I've been burned a few times (just emotions, no money, thankfully).  Now I also view the internet as entertainment.  There's one community in particular that deals with people who have difficult relatives.  I think most of the stories are legit but the more dramatic it is, the more I regard it as a fun story.  Especially when the story starts out with the OP complaining that a relative never calls first before they drop by and ends four days later with the OP's relative being arrested, convicted and sentenced on attempted murder charges because the relative just couldn't stand to be told they had to call first. 

Okay, that might be simplifying it but the red flags to me usually include rapid escalation of the situation, posting at times I wouldn't even be thinking about getting online ("Great Googley Mooley, Relative is right outside my door and trying to break in!  They have an AXE!!!") and just general sensationalism.  More often than not, the stories are greatly embellished if not made up all together.  And they always get busted.