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Twik

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #450 on: February 02, 2013, 01:26:21 PM »
So me swanning all over Asia and Africa making in some cases some quite large purchases doesn't set off any warnings, but buying a single pizza in Reykjavik does??

I don't know - how expensive is an Icelandic pizza?
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #451 on: February 02, 2013, 01:36:16 PM »
If the phone call about the suspicious CC activity came to Thipu1's office, it probably was a company card.  Phone number on a personal card would have gone to a home phone.


You know, this never bothered me until I mentioned it here, but it does seem odd.  This was also around 2000 when practices were a little different than they are now. 

It wasn't a company card.  The museum didn't use those. 

The lady didn't mention any specific purchases. She just mentioned the pattern of charges coming from three countries on a fairly regular basis.   I think she believed me because I told her t CW was expected back to work on X date and she might want to call at that time. 
   
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #452 on: February 02, 2013, 04:50:01 PM »
My neighbor, Emily Gale, age 93, is the target of dozens and dozens of what are probably fairly legit scams, but they smack of scam nonetheless.  In the past few months she has asked me to explain a number of pieces of mail she has received and in most cases, I have said "Tear it up."

They usually take one of the following two forms:

1) "Emily Gale!  You are responsible for the watermain at (street address of the condominium we live in) and it could cost you thousands!  You need to send $XXX now!"  All of it is in large font.  Below in tiny letters it reads "Don't let this happen to you, send $XX dollars today to get your Home Water Insurance!
I told her (again, last week) that her common charges PAY FOR THIS and she should toss this one in the trash.

2) Same deal.  This time sent to HR Director Emily Gale, asking if she has put up the appropriate posters about new IRS practices for her employees.  If not, "You may be fined thousands of dollars".  It was sent in a very authentic looking IRS peel apart envelope with the very authentic lettering the IRS uses.  And I explained again that the company sending it (tiny tiny letters spelling out "Personal Concepts Inc."--I am betting they meant "Personnel") was just trying to get money out of her.

And then because we live in a city where there is really only ONE political party, though the other one always runs a mayoral candidate just for chuckles, she received dozens of begging letters from Majority Party soliciting funds to defeat the minority party, complete with tales of the evil minority party would do to senior citizens if ever they managed to get their hot little paws on the mayoralty.  What really confuddled her was the fact that most of these were addressed to Henry Gale, her husband of fifty years....who has been DEAD for twenty years.  I suggested she write the party a letter telling them that, as his name was taken off the voter's registrar years ago (her kids saw to it) that she should send the letters back, directing the people in charge to send the letters to the cemetary where Henry is buried.

It's bad enough when "businesses" try to scam seniors, but when the political clout that claims to protect the same folks tries the same sort of stunts, I really want to go slap people until their heads spin on their necks like Linda Blair's.

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« Reply #453 on: February 02, 2013, 06:09:29 PM »
When I was in New Orleans, I was sorely tempted to try the cup-and-ball game. Not because I thought it was possible to win anything, but I was interested in watching the way the scam went down. If I hadn't been on my own, I would have tried, but I was worried about making myself a target for something worse if I drew attention to myself as a mark.

When I was 4 my parents let me play the cup and ball game at a carnival and I won on my first try!!  The guy manning the booth was astonished (his mouth literally dropped open)  and tried to claim I cheated and would not give me the prize.  My dad made a big stink and the crowd that saw me win fair and square started getting angry so he finally relented but refused to let me throw my 2 remaining balls.  According to the rules I could pick any prize so I of course wanted the monstrously huge pink teddy bear that was hanging from the very top of the booth.  The guy tried to talk me into taking some little dinky trinket but my heart was set on the bear.  It took him and another guy ten minutes to get it down.  He told us that in the five years he had been working there no one had ever won before and they never had to get one of the big prizes down.  The bear was quite dusty but I loved it.

edited to add:
I just realized you are refering to a totally different ball and cup game that my parents would most definately not allowed me to play, especially at the age of 4. :D
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #454 on: February 02, 2013, 07:54:52 PM »
So me swanning all over Asia and Africa making in some cases some quite large purchases doesn't set off any warnings, but buying a single pizza in Reykjavik does??

I don't know - how expensive is an Icelandic pizza?
Cheaper than basically everything else in Iceland, hence why I ended up eating it about five times in six days.  ;)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #455 on: February 03, 2013, 07:21:01 AM »
I was house sitting for my parents and got a phone call from their CC company. We went around and around because of privacy rules. Finally I said They are currently driving from San Angelo to Houston. They will probably stop in either Kerrville at the Exxon and BBQ place or at Franks in Schulenburg. They will get to Houston about X time and I'll leave a message for them to call you.


Turned out that an employee from a company that marketed stuff in Time magazines had stolen a bunch of CC numbers and gone to Las Vegas. My parents were told the cops had to let him go before they had returned the call and it was to late to press charges. That didn't make sense. It had only been a couple of hours - so no way the statue of limitations had run out.  >:D 


Mom let Dad have it with both barrels. He had taken to filling out all those "free trial" offers that came in the magazines getting the "prize" then cancelling. That is were the guy got the CC number from.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #456 on: February 03, 2013, 09:08:48 AM »
Most likely, the "time limit" was when a specific police officer's shift ended, and they weren't going to pay overtime for him to wait for someone whose card had been stolen to call back. That sounds like the relevant police department doesn't want to take a lot of trouble about a non-violent crime whose victims are in another state and thus unlikely to call and complain. (There are rules about how long a suspect can be held without charges, but it seems unlikely that they had taken long enough to call your parents for that to take effect.)
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« Reply #457 on: February 03, 2013, 09:56:59 AM »
I was loading groceries into my car yesterday when a woman came up and started talking non stop about how she would never, ever ask for money, but this is terrible, her bank goof ed and all her money was stolen and her kids are starving, and the rent is due, and I don't know what all. I tuned her out and kept loading groceries. Even though I was rather clearly ignoring her, she went on and on. When I was done, I looked at her and said, "sorry, but no" and got in my car.

She might have been more convincing had she not been taking swigs out of a beer bottle.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #458 on: February 03, 2013, 12:39:50 PM »
My brother's first wife called my mom when he was overseas in Kuwait and told her that she was pregnant and that the Army had messed up his paycheck and she was broke.  My mom sent her money for 'bills' and several care packages of maternity clothes, baby stuff, etc.  Turns out that his paycheck was being deposited just fine, and while she was pregnant, it wasn't with Bro's baby.  She disappeared with all the money from their checking and savings accounts, plus maxed out the cash advances on their credit cards, then resurfaced in New Orleans with her baby daddy.  After he dumped her, she and her parents asked my brother if he would claim paternity so she could have the baby in an Army hospital.  He declined.

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« Reply #459 on: February 03, 2013, 03:07:43 PM »
I just got these two scams in my (works) inbox within 4 hours of each other.  Names changed, but all else is what I got. 

Hello,
 
Sorry to bother you with this. Am presently in Belgium with my cousin who is suffering from a kidney disease and must undergo a Kidney Transplant. I am deeply sorry for not writing or calling you before leaving, the news of her illness  arrived to me as an emergency and she needs family support to keep her going, I hope you understand my plight and pardon  me.
Kidney Transplant is expensive here, I want her to have the surgery at home, Am  wondering if you can help me. I need $2,500 to make necessary arrangements; I traveled with little money due to the short time I had to prepare for this trip and never expected things to be the way it is right now. I'll  pay you back once I get home, I need to get her home ASAP because she is going through a lot of pain at the moment and the doctor advised that she has to be operated on time to avoid any complications. I will really appreciate  whatever amount you can come up with. Let me know, please get back to me asap.
 
Thanks
 
Love Marcy  xx

Hello,
 
Sorry to bother you with this. Am presently in Belgium with my cousin who is suffering from a kidney disease and must undergo a Kidney Transplant. I am deeply sorry for not writing or calling you before leaving, the news of her illness  arrived to me as an emergency and she needs family support to keep her going, I hope you understand my plight and pardon  me.
Kidney Transplant is expensive here, I want her to have the surgery at home, Am  wondering if you can help me. I need $2,500 to make necessary arrangements; I traveled with little money due to the short time I had to prepare for this trip and never expected things to be the way it is right now. I'll  pay you back once I get home, I need to get her home ASAP because she is going through a lot of pain at the moment and the doctor advised that she has to be operated on time to avoid any complications. I will really appreciate  whatever amount you can come up with. Let me know, please get back to me asap.
 
Sincerely
Carl

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« Reply #460 on: February 03, 2013, 03:15:06 PM »
^^^  Multiple personalities?   ;D

Well, either that or the one woman has a whole bunch of caring cousins who took that trip to Belgium with her!   :-\

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« Reply #461 on: February 03, 2013, 03:15:16 PM »
You should email them both back and ask them who is worthier to receive your money.  :)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #462 on: February 05, 2013, 08:48:17 AM »
Heh! I got one very similar, recently, purporting to be from a client of mine.

Except that it was my client's father who was seriously ill in Belgium and needing a Kidney Transplant, and he urgently needed us to let him have 1,500.

Which seemed odd, for a man who is a multi-millionaire. Party as a result of inheriting his late father's very substantial estate. .

Poor man's e-mail account had been hacked and the message sent to all of his contacts. it was pretty sophisticated as the mail came from his address and was signed in his name

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« Reply #463 on: February 05, 2013, 09:51:38 AM »
Heh! I got one very similar, recently, purporting to be from a client of mine.

Except that it was my client's father who was seriously ill in Belgium and needing a Kidney Transplant, and he urgently needed us to let him have 1,500.

Which seemed odd, for a man who is a multi-millionaire. Party as a result of inheriting his late father's very substantial estate. .

Poor man's e-mail account had been hacked and the message sent to all of his contacts. it was pretty sophisticated as the mail came from his address and was signed in his name

I don't remember the details and technicalities but I don't think your email account has to be actually hacked for someone to send mail 'coming' from your adress. Altho if it was signed with the same name then maybe it was, I don't think bots are clever enough or take the time to do that, I should ask a friend who works in IT security.

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« Reply #464 on: February 05, 2013, 10:02:04 AM »
Heh! I got one very similar, recently, purporting to be from a client of mine.

Except that it was my client's father who was seriously ill in Belgium and needing a Kidney Transplant, and he urgently needed us to let him have 1,500.

Which seemed odd, for a man who is a multi-millionaire. Party as a result of inheriting his late father's very substantial estate. .

Poor man's e-mail account had been hacked and the message sent to all of his contacts. it was pretty sophisticated as the mail came from his address and was signed in his name

I don't remember the details and technicalities but I don't think your email account has to be actually hacked for someone to send mail 'coming' from your adress. Altho if it was signed with the same name then maybe it was, I don't think bots are clever enough or take the time to do that, I should ask a friend who works in IT security.

Yes, this. There's some way that the address can come from another person's address book, so the person who was actually hacked might not be the one who's "sending" it. The hacker might hack Bob and the email yoinks Sue's name out of Bob's address book, and then everybody gets a spam email from Sue even though her actual account is fine.