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#### Lorelei_Evil

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« Reply #510 on: February 13, 2013, 08:44:44 AM »
Anyone get the chimney sweep or just me?  He's nice enough, but he goes on and on and on.  I live in an apartment, no chimney here.

#### siamesecat2965

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« Reply #511 on: February 13, 2013, 09:02:52 AM »
We moved in August 2011. Before moving, I researched all ISP's available, their rates and whether or not a contract was required.

Through my work, I received a great monthly rate on company C. No contract, no deposit, and we pay $90 for digital cable and their second tier internet per month with no service charges ever. Company A didn't offer high speed internet or television service at our place, and their slow internet was$100 per month plus a $250 deposit and a two year contract. Company B offered high speed internet and cable for$150 per month, with a two year contract and a $100 deposit. I went with company C. I get mail from both companies A & B and satellite television companies offering me great low rates, when they can't beat what I have and require contracts! Slightly OT, but I have my rental insurance, and had my car insurance with a large, national, company. I was however, able to swtich my car insurance to a company only in my state, and you can only get if your company or you have some "in" with the state small business association. and beacuse they aren't open to everyone, their rates are cheap. way cheaper than any other company, and the coverqage is good. but every time i ahve to call or renew my rental, they ask about auto, and I tell them if you can beat my current co, sure, but as soon as they hear who it is, they say, nope, sorry. I just wish i could get my rental from them, but they are selective, and won't insure multi-unit dwellings. #### nutraxfornerves • Member • Posts: 1785 ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #512 on: February 15, 2013, 04:08:12 PM » Internet romance scams - hold your wallet. From the San Francisco Chronicle. Interesting reading. This is an interview with "Kim Garner, vice president of global security and investigations for the money transfer company [Money Gram]." Some interesting statistics: • In 2011, people were bilked out of$50 million [in the US] - the average victim lost nearly $9,000 • the age of victims ranges from 45 to 65 • 40 percent are men and 60 percent women • Money Gram has set up a fraud detection system. If it's triggered, the staffer stars talking to the consumer. In the last 2.5 years, using this system, Money Gram has kept$220 million from being sent to scammers.

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That the person is working overseas as an engineer or on an oil rig and hasn't been paid. So the person asks for a loan. The other one we see is the person who poses as a gemologist and has all his or her money wrapped up in gems and needs a loan to pay customs, or to come for a visit. Sometimes the money is needed to cure a sick child or relative.

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#### Seven Ate Nine

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« Reply #513 on: February 15, 2013, 05:06:18 PM »

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The only people who can find us are FedEx, UPS, USPS and the Jehovahs Witness.

That is hilarious.  When we moved, I was sure that the only people who would willingly come down our driveway would be people that we expected (Aside from living in the middle of nowhere, I live on a "flag lot" with a really long driveway).  I was a little surprised (and a bit creeped out) when I came home the other day and found a "Watchtower" shoved halfway through my door.

#### JenJay

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« Reply #514 on: February 18, 2013, 11:35:21 AM »
This morning I got a call from my credit union's automated system notifying me that three separate purchases, totaling nearly $1k, had been made to an online toy store and did I authorize that? Um, no. Yesterday I bought my son two video games for his birthday through amazon. One was directly from them but the other is through another online retailer and I'm thinking somebody swiped my card number. I tried to call the bank but of course they're closed due to the holiday. We were able to track down the number for reporting fraud so we did that, transactions are refused and the card is canceled. We also tried to call the customer service number of the online toy store to notify them not to ship the orders but they're closed, too. We'll call everyone again first thing in the morning. I want to ask them for the name and address the items were to be shipped to. Will they tell me? I think I have a right to know, as I was the one charged, but I don't know how that works. I've never been stolen from before. I'd really like to track this jerk down and turn him/her in if possible. #### gramma dishes • Member • Posts: 7752 ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #515 on: February 18, 2013, 12:11:51 PM » This morning I got a call from my credit union's automated system notifying me that three separate purchases, totaling nearly$1k, had been made to an online toy store and did I authorize that? Um, no.

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Horrifying story, but kudos to your credit union for catching it so quickly.!!

Hope you and Amazon and the online toy store can get this all worked out without any further issues.  And yes, I think retailers should reveal the names of the perpetrators of theft like this, but I'm thinking they won't.

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« Reply #516 on: February 18, 2013, 12:31:38 PM »
This is appropos to the topic, and I know you can use a laugh.

“All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost."
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#### Otterpop

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« Reply #517 on: February 18, 2013, 12:41:05 PM »
This morning I got a call from my credit union's automated system notifying me that three separate purchases, totaling nearly $1k, had been made to an online toy store and did I authorize that? Um, no. Yesterday I bought my son two video games for his birthday through amazon. One was directly from them but the other is through another online retailer and I'm thinking somebody swiped my card number. I tried to call the bank but of course they're closed due to the holiday. We were able to track down the number for reporting fraud so we did that, transactions are refused and the card is canceled. We also tried to call the customer service number of the online toy store to notify them not to ship the orders but they're closed, too. We'll call everyone again first thing in the morning. I want to ask them for the name and address the items were to be shipped to. Will they tell me? I think I have a right to know, as I was the one charged, but I don't know how that works. I've never been stolen from before. I'd really like to track this jerk down and turn him/her in if possible. I hope they at least notify the online retailer, pinpoint which employee it was and FIRE their butts (and prosecute...one can hope). That is alarming. #### kansha • Member • Posts: 324 ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #518 on: February 18, 2013, 12:50:41 PM » This morning I got a call from my credit union's automated system notifying me that three separate purchases, totaling nearly$1k, had been made to an online toy store and did I authorize that? Um, no.

Yesterday I bought my son two video games for his birthday through amazon. One was directly from them but the other is through another online retailer and I'm thinking somebody swiped my card number. I tried to call the bank but of course they're closed due to the holiday. We were able to track down the number for reporting fraud so we did that, transactions are refused and the card is canceled. We also tried to call the customer service number of the online toy store to notify them not to ship the orders but they're closed, too. We'll call everyone again first thing in the morning.

I want to ask them for the name and address the items were to be shipped to. Will they tell me? I think I have a right to know, as I was the one charged, but I don't know how that works. I've never been stolen from before. I'd really like to track this jerk down and turn him/her in if possible.
if you're a customer of knit pics or any of the other crafts americana companies, they had CC/debit card info exposed, which they discovered in late DECEMBER.  there was an explosion of knitters on the ravelry site reporting CC fraud a couple of weeks ago.  a ravelry member found the info about the info breach on the CA and VT attorney general sites friday; KP only acknowleged the issue via blogpost (as in, there is still NOTHING on their main site) last night.

my sister in law's card was hit as she purchased items for me for xmas.  KP's response has been underwhelming (i'm being polite here) =/

tl;dr: if you've purchased from knitpicks in the past, keep an eye on your cc/bank account!

#### sunnygirl

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« Reply #519 on: February 18, 2013, 01:25:49 PM »
Ugh. I bought a Groupon for some yoga classes. The vendor ignored all my emails trying to book, then emailed me after the Groupon expired to say, "Sorry but email me the voucher and you can still use it!", then emailed me right back after I did so to say, "Actually you can't use it because it's expired", then used the info from the voucher to fraudulently tell Groupon I had already used the voucher. Groupon refuses to refund or do anything since according to the vendor I've already taken the classes, even though, you know, I have the emails where the vendor flat out says, "We won't honour the voucher tough luck."

Groupon sucks, seriously. Is there nothing one can do if a vendor refuses to honour the deal then lies that they've already done so?

#### RebeccainGA

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« Reply #520 on: February 18, 2013, 01:35:00 PM »
Ugh. I bought a Groupon for some yoga classes. The vendor ignored all my emails trying to book, then emailed me after the Groupon expired to say, "Sorry but email me the voucher and you can still use it!", then emailed me right back after I did so to say, "Actually you can't use it because it's expired", then used the info from the voucher to fraudulently tell Groupon I had already used the voucher. Groupon refuses to refund or do anything since according to the vendor I've already taken the classes, even though, you know, I have the emails where the vendor flat out says, "We won't honour the voucher tough luck."

Groupon sucks, seriously. Is there nothing one can do if a vendor refuses to honour the deal then lies that they've already done so?

Try their Twitter account - and check out Consumerist.org for their executive contact information. As long as you have the e-mails, I'd keep trying - I worry about that kind of thing occasionally, but haven't had it happen so far. Good luck!

#### jedikaiti

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« Reply #521 on: February 18, 2013, 01:39:47 PM »
How long since you purchased the Groupon? If it's under 90 days, dispute with your CC and send them copies of the emails. Also, make sure you review them on Yelp and Google. :-)

I am concerned about this happening, too - I bought a mobile car detailing package through WeeklyPlus in January, and have been trying to book since 1/24. Emails and phone calls have gone ignored. I have now tried emailing from a 2nd address, and also tried contacting WeeklyPlus, but they haven't responded, either. UGH!
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#### JenJay

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« Reply #522 on: February 18, 2013, 01:41:16 PM »
UPDATE

We heard back from the customer service rep at the online toy store. Apparently there were only 2 purchases, the first one was for just under $125 and they used our shipping address. That was at 3am. When it went through they got brave and made another purchase at 9am for$850 but had it sent to their address. That flagged a security check within the retailer's system (ironically only put in to place a couple of months ago for this exact reason!) and they caught it. The store then broke the purchase into the two smaller amounts and tried to run them through simultaneously because they knew it would cause our bank to flag them and ask us to authorize them if it was legit. I'm really impressed!

She did give us the email address the thief used and the physical address they tried to have the items (7 "booster boxes" of Magic cards) sent to. I have no idea if it's related to the video game purchases I just made (that store doesn't sell gaming cards) but I'm going to call the police dept. in their town and see about filing a report. Even if this transaction isn't enough for the police to pursue on its own they may have an ongoing case or be watching the house for some other reason, so maybe it'll help.

Thanks everyone!

#### gramma dishes

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« Reply #523 on: February 18, 2013, 03:23:22 PM »
^^^  I must say I'm very impressed!!  It's actually nice to hear stories about things being handled so correctly and expediently!

#### turtleIScream

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« Reply #524 on: February 18, 2013, 03:30:23 PM »
JenJay's story reminded me of a credit card fraud that happened to us. But maybe this should go under the stupid question thread. I purchased some back to school items for my daughter at a consignment shop. One month later, the exact same transaction posted to our credit card, followed by three other fraudulent charges within a week. Is it likely that someone at the consignment shop stole my card info, or was that just a weird coincidence?
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