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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #555 on: February 25, 2013, 11:03:40 AM »
I got an email today that my computer marked as spam.  Somebody's address book got hacked and it was sent to a bunch of people.  But it did give me a bit of a start, since the person it came from is someone I cut off about 5 years ago.  (It was more of a mutual cut, really.)
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #556 on: February 25, 2013, 11:41:00 AM »
Story in the news this week that a woman gave $8000 to a stranger for some diamonds, to be used as collateral. The diamonds turned out to be glass. Now Woman A has gone to the media, asking for help identifying the con artist to get her money back because her husband is out of work and she and her children need this money.

The transaction occurred at a mall with multiple jewellers.

A lot of people are accusing Woman A of collaboration with Woman B in order to get the kind hearted public to give her money to replace the funds she may have had swindled from her.

I agree.  If they need the money so bad, why the ehell was she off buying diamonds from some guy at the mall?    :o  I get that gems can be an investment but that just doesn't seem like a wise expenditure during hard times.

She probably wasn't buying them, due to the comment about "collateral". It sounds like what I believe was called the "pigeon drop" at one time. Swindler announces she's found some diamonds. If they're not claimed within X days, she'll be able to keep them. But, alas, she has to rush to a vital appointment or something. Could Woman A hold them until she gets back? As a reward, Swindler will split to proceeds later on. But, just to ensure trust, Woman A should put up some money to Swindler - that's fair, right, since she's holding the valuable diamonds and could abscond with them, leaving Swindler with nothing? Then Swindler walks off with the "deposit", and Woman A is left with some glass chips.

It sounds ridiculous when written out, but a fast talking con artist can do well with it, I've heard.

I hear this is still pretty common in Las Vegas with casino chips - the con artist catches tourists on the sidewalk and says they have this handful of high-value casino chips to cash in, but they're not able to go into the casino themselves for various reasons, so would the tourist be willing to cash them?  And of course to leave their wallet/watch/etc as collateral?  The chips turn out to be counterfeit, the tourist gets stuck for passing counterfeit chips, and the con artist makes off with the tourist's money and valuables.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #557 on: February 25, 2013, 12:35:30 PM »
Last week my friend texted me saying "Since when do you play Farmville on Fbook?" I texted back saying I don't, haven't for years cause I got sick and tired of fbook games and how you can do a darned thing unless you invite more friends to play.  Typical pyramid scheme sort of thing only in game form. :P

She said "Well Fbook is saying you just played yesterday!"  I went back online and sure enough, fbook had logged me in as playing that day.  I knew DH had been on my laptop earlier that day but he was signed into his account, not mine. 

I figure it was a scam to try and get people to play by saying "Your friend just played this game, why don't you play too!" even though I hadn't played that game in over 3 years.

Only game I play is "You Don't Know Jack" and just cause it's fun. I don't invite anyone to play.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #558 on: February 25, 2013, 01:06:54 PM »
I am managing two different apartment complexes right now due to another manager being out on leave. I have had this now at each complex so I know scammers are at work on a scam so old it should be drawing Social Security!

They call from a blocked phone number and ask for the model of the copier.  I asked him who he was from, at the first complex he said he was from "your copier supply company" when I said if he really was from them, then he would know the model of our copier already. He then told me to "Shut up you (C word)" the second time he went right to the profanity the second I asked who he was from.  :)  Gotta love the idiots out there.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #559 on: February 25, 2013, 01:18:23 PM »
I am managing two different apartment complexes right now due to another manager being out on leave. I have had this now at each complex so I know scammers are at work on a scam so old it should be drawing Social Security!

They call from a blocked phone number and ask for the model of the copier.  I asked him who he was from, at the first complex he said he was from "your copier supply company" when I said if he really was from them, then he would know the model of our copier already. He then told me to "Shut up you (C word)" the second time he went right to the profanity the second I asked who he was from.  :)  Gotta love the idiots out there.

I've gotten that a couple of times.  If I'm in a bad mood, I just get off the phone as quickly as possible.  If I'm in a good mood, I say we have a "Corellian YT-1300 Stock Light" copier with an "Incom T-65" paper tray.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #560 on: February 25, 2013, 07:22:11 PM »
Story in the news this week that a woman gave $8000 to a stranger for some diamonds, to be used as collateral. The diamonds turned out to be glass. Now Woman A has gone to the media, asking for help identifying the con artist to get her money back because her husband is out of work and she and her children need this money.

The transaction occurred at a mall with multiple jewellers.

A lot of people are accusing Woman A of collaboration with Woman B in order to get the kind hearted public to give her money to replace the funds she may have had swindled from her.

I agree.  If they need the money so bad, why the ehell was she off buying diamonds from some guy at the mall?    :o  I get that gems can be an investment but that just doesn't seem like a wise expenditure during hard times.

She probably wasn't buying them, due to the comment about "collateral". It sounds like what I believe was called the "pigeon drop" at one time. Swindler announces she's found some diamonds. If they're not claimed within X days, she'll be able to keep them. But, alas, she has to rush to a vital appointment or something. Could Woman A hold them until she gets back? As a reward, Swindler will split to proceeds later on. But, just to ensure trust, Woman A should put up some money to Swindler - that's fair, right, since she's holding the valuable diamonds and could abscond with them, leaving Swindler with nothing? Then Swindler walks off with the "deposit", and Woman A is left with some glass chips.

It sounds ridiculous when written out, but a fast talking con artist can do well with it, I've heard.

I hear this is still pretty common in Las Vegas with casino chips - the con artist catches tourists on the sidewalk and says they have this handful of high-value casino chips to cash in, but they're not able to go into the casino themselves for various reasons, so would the tourist be willing to cash them?  And of course to leave their wallet/watch/etc as collateral?  The chips turn out to be counterfeit, the tourist gets stuck for passing counterfeit chips, and the con artist makes off with the tourist's money and valuables.

Isn't there a CSI episode about that?

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #561 on: February 26, 2013, 12:29:05 AM »
I am managing two different apartment complexes right now due to another manager being out on leave. I have had this now at each complex so I know scammers are at work on a scam so old it should be drawing Social Security!

They call from a blocked phone number and ask for the model of the copier.  I asked him who he was from, at the first complex he said he was from "your copier supply company" when I said if he really was from them, then he would know the model of our copier already. He then told me to "Shut up you (C word)" the second time he went right to the profanity the second I asked who he was from.  :)  Gotta love the idiots out there.

I've gotten that a couple of times.  If I'm in a bad mood, I just get off the phone as quickly as possible.  If I'm in a good mood, I say we have a "Corellian YT-1300 Stock Light" copier with an "Incom T-65" paper tray.

Maybe I'm being obtuse, but why do they want to know the model of your copier? Is it to get information to set up a future scam?
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #562 on: February 26, 2013, 02:40:46 AM »
I am managing two different apartment complexes right now due to another manager being out on leave. I have had this now at each complex so I know scammers are at work on a scam so old it should be drawing Social Security!

They call from a blocked phone number and ask for the model of the copier.  I asked him who he was from, at the first complex he said he was from "your copier supply company" when I said if he really was from them, then he would know the model of our copier already. He then told me to "Shut up you (C word)" the second time he went right to the profanity the second I asked who he was from.  :)  Gotta love the idiots out there.

I've gotten that a couple of times.  If I'm in a bad mood, I just get off the phone as quickly as possible.  If I'm in a good mood, I say we have a "Corellian YT-1300 Stock Light" copier with an "Incom T-65" paper tray.

Maybe I'm being obtuse, but why do they want to know the model of your copier? Is it to get information to set up a future scam?

If I understand this scam correctly, they send you a shipment of ink for that specific copier and then argue that 'you ordered it' and therefore have to pay their massively inflated invoice. Some companies that don't know or care just pay the money.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #563 on: February 26, 2013, 02:45:46 AM »
It's to ship you a carton of ink cartridges and they make up the inventory sheet to make it look as if you ordered the (usually) substandard ink cartridges.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #564 on: February 26, 2013, 03:32:27 AM »
Ah, I see. Thanks guys!
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #565 on: February 26, 2013, 05:18:28 AM »
Story in the news this week that a woman gave $8000 to a stranger for some diamonds, to be used as collateral. The diamonds turned out to be glass. Now Woman A has gone to the media, asking for help identifying the con artist to get her money back because her husband is out of work and she and her children need this money.

The transaction occurred at a mall with multiple jewellers.

A lot of people are accusing Woman A of collaboration with Woman B in order to get the kind hearted public to give her money to replace the funds she may have had swindled from her.

I agree.  If they need the money so bad, why the ehell was she off buying diamonds from some guy at the mall?    :o  I get that gems can be an investment but that just doesn't seem like a wise expenditure during hard times.

She probably wasn't buying them, due to the comment about "collateral". It sounds like what I believe was called the "pigeon drop" at one time. Swindler announces she's found some diamonds. If they're not claimed within X days, she'll be able to keep them. But, alas, she has to rush to a vital appointment or something. Could Woman A hold them until she gets back? As a reward, Swindler will split to proceeds later on. But, just to ensure trust, Woman A should put up some money to Swindler - that's fair, right, since she's holding the valuable diamonds and could abscond with them, leaving Swindler with nothing? Then Swindler walks off with the "deposit", and Woman A is left with some glass chips.

It sounds ridiculous when written out, but a fast talking con artist can do well with it, I've heard.

I hear this is still pretty common in Las Vegas with casino chips - the con artist catches tourists on the sidewalk and says they have this handful of high-value casino chips to cash in, but they're not able to go into the casino themselves for various reasons, so would the tourist be willing to cash them?  And of course to leave their wallet/watch/etc as collateral?  The chips turn out to be counterfeit, the tourist gets stuck for passing counterfeit chips, and the con artist makes off with the tourist's money and valuables.

Isn't there a CSI episode about that?

Yes, and the "mark's" pay for the counterfit chips with 'funny money'!

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #566 on: February 26, 2013, 06:29:32 AM »
I got a call from a number I later googled as belonging to a call centre that offers loans.

Me: Hello?
Caller: Hi.
<pause>
Me: Can I help you?
Caller: Who is this?
Me: Who are you looking for?
Caller: I'm looking for Doctor.
Me: Doctor? Uh, that's a title, not a name. Do you have a name to go with that title?
Caller: No no, it's not a title, that's his first name.
Me: Nope, nobody here by that name.
Caller: Oh okay. <hangs up>

Now, I do have a PhD, so I am technically a doctor, but that's not my first name. I figure somebody sold my contact information onto the call centre, but put my title as my first name. Bonus points for getting my gender wrong too.

(For the record, I do live in a country where Doctor is a perfectly acceptable first name, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Khumalo ).

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #567 on: February 26, 2013, 06:40:04 AM »
I got a call from a number I later googled as belonging to a call centre that offers loans.

Me: Hello?
Caller: Hi.
<pause>
Me: Can I help you?
Caller: Who is this?
Me: Who are you looking for?
Caller: I'm looking for Doctor.
Me: Doctor? Uh, that's a title, not a name. Do you have a name to go with that title?
Caller: No no, it's not a title, that's his first name.
Me: Nope, nobody here by that name.
Caller: Oh okay. <hangs up>

Now, I do have a PhD, so I am technically a doctor, but that's not my first name. I figure somebody sold my contact information onto the call centre, but put my title as my first name. Bonus points for getting my gender wrong too.

(For the record, I do live in a country where Doctor is a perfectly acceptable first name, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Khumalo ).
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #568 on: February 26, 2013, 08:20:46 AM »
I got a call from a number I later googled as belonging to a call centre that offers loans.

Me: Hello?
Caller: Hi.
<pause>
Me: Can I help you?
Caller: Who is this?
Me: Who are you looking for?
Caller: I'm looking for Doctor.
Me: Doctor? Uh, that's a title, not a name. Do you have a name to go with that title?
Caller: No no, it's not a title, that's his first name.
Me: Nope, nobody here by that name.
Caller: Oh okay. <hangs up>

Now, I do have a PhD, so I am technically a doctor, but that's not my first name. I figure somebody sold my contact information onto the call centre, but put my title as my first name. Bonus points for getting my gender wrong too.

(For the record, I do live in a country where Doctor is a perfectly acceptable first name, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Khumalo ).
You haven't had any blue police boxes show up in your yard or living room lately, have you?  ;D
I thought that, too. But in that case, the first name would be 'The', wouldn't it?

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #569 on: February 26, 2013, 12:13:52 PM »
Good grief, I could write a novel about the ridiculous amount of scam e-mails I get

* E-mails from the FBI (and sometimes Robert Mueller himself!) about my payment.

* John and Mary Smith won a bazillion dollars in the lottery and want to share it with me!

* Please open the attachment and confirm your Western Union payment.

* Dearest Beloved, I am the widow of an African prince and need help getting money out of the country....

* Hi,i'm heather and saw yourpics!you are sssooo cute!wana chat wit me?

* Earn a doctorate degree online!

* Save 80% on C1al!$ and V1agRa!!!!