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gramma dishes

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1155 on: June 20, 2013, 10:46:37 AM »
...    Turned out she told the B&G she made them and would be happy to make 250-300, so now I was obligated because she couldn't let them down. ...

Why do people lie about stuff like this?  Don't they realize it's likely to backfire big time?  And I love how YOU were obligated to do it so that she could save face!  Nope.  Don't think so. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1156 on: June 20, 2013, 12:13:56 PM »
That said, Americans regularly drive much longer distance than most Europeans do - unless you're in a big city with a metro system, there's just no other way to get around.  My friends and I drive to NearbyCity (~100 mi / 160 km away) on a regular basis for meetings, concerts, conferences, etc., and think nothing of it.  Some Americans spend two to three hours a day on their commute to/from work.

Not sure if this is still the case but US cars used to have much worse fuel economy than UK cars (and we have different gallons).  My car does about 37.5 miles per US gallon.

Some of the smaller, more fuel-efficient cars get in the 30-40 range, but you can also find cars here that get half that.

The BEST car I've ever had got about 25 in optimal conditions. Usually I'm somewhere right around 21.5. I measure it regularly. My sister's car is at 19, and I don't know what my mom's is, but it's an SUV, so probably worse.

If I could get a car with 37.5, dear lord, I wouldn't have to pinch pennies so much to have enough money to get from point A to point B, I'd have to fill up my tank so much less.

Hee hee... I get 65mpg (UK gallons).

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1157 on: June 20, 2013, 04:17:08 PM »
And I hate to be Debby Downer, but just  because he's raised the amount that they told other family members they would sell the house for doesn't mean they'll actually sell it to him.  Just for spite.

And my lack of faith in humanity is proven correct:
http://now.msn.com/john-potter-92-year-old-wwii-veteran-may-still-face-eviction

To recap the story: a 90+ year old man had his house (that he built) stolen out from under him by his daughter, who abused her power of attorney to transfer it to her name.  She is now starting eviction proceedings.  His granddaughter took the story to the internet, and over $135k was raised to buy the house back.  His daughter is asking $85k for the house plus $15k in 'fees'; the house is valued at around $50k and he offered $65k for it.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1158 on: June 20, 2013, 04:20:56 PM »
http://jezebel.com/the-most-amazing-wedding-text-message-fight-of-our-time-514528769

Recap: a wedding guest gets a text the day after the wedding berating him for giving a cheap gift and not covering his plate. The guy is in the right etiquette wise, but he does make a remark about the newlyweds (a gay couple) that is rude.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1159 on: June 20, 2013, 04:55:51 PM »
That wedding one is being discussed here"

http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=128632.60
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1160 on: June 20, 2013, 07:04:19 PM »
http://jezebel.com/the-most-amazing-wedding-text-message-fight-of-our-time-514528769

Recap: a wedding guest gets a text the day after the wedding berating him for giving a cheap gift and not covering his plate. The guy is in the right etiquette wise, but he does make a remark about the newlyweds (a gay couple) that is rude.

Is it my imagination or is that the 3rd version of that story so far?  Little details (not the text messages) seem to be changed from version to version.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1161 on: June 20, 2013, 07:55:44 PM »
...    Turned out she told the B&G she made them and would be happy to make 250-300, so now I was obligated because she couldn't let them down. ...

Why do people lie about stuff like this?  Don't they realize it's likely to backfire big time?  And I love how YOU were obligated to do it so that she could save face!  Nope.  Don't think so.

I wish I knew. Sometimes it works?

I think in both cases they thought offering materials was enough because cooking and stained glass can be considered hobbies. Lasagna boy told he he'd settle for any frozen I had on hand but he didn't have time to make fresh. Neither did I so that was that. He was pretty good about it in the end, he appreciated the suggestion that he buy really good pre-made from an Italian deli and beg off the same "no time" excuse.

The other was faaaamily. Sigh.

She wasn't the bride, I hope I made that clear. She had a leftover favour from another wedding. I guess her friends saw that and a few other pieces and she took credit. She wanted to "give" the favours as her wedding present, thinking they were small and therefore inexpensive. She wasn't pleased to learn the materials alone would run upwards of a couple hundred dollars. She argued that I had lots of time to teach her how to do it, but she wasn't interested I didn't, so I should do them to make it up to her (among other things, this was the most amusing). I told her if she told the B&G the truth we could maybe come to a compromise and work something out. These were not mutual friends so I never found out what happened. When she realized I wasn't going to budge she stopped talking about the wedding completely.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1162 on: June 21, 2013, 07:00:16 AM »
That's always a problem with high-quality crafts.  People who know how to do them, appreciate why the crafters ask the prices they do.  Those who don't understand the skill and time involved don't think the items are worth the price. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1163 on: June 21, 2013, 09:49:00 AM »
That's always a problem with high-quality crafts.  People who know how to do them, appreciate why the crafters ask the prices they do.  Those who don't understand the skill and time involved don't think the items are worth the price.

My knitting instructor was asked via e-mail to knit a pair of socks for someone's father in time for his birthday in September.  The payoff was to be the leftover yarn.  Instructor declined.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1164 on: June 21, 2013, 10:55:36 AM »
That's always a problem with high-quality crafts.  People who know how to do them, appreciate why the crafters ask the prices they do.  Those who don't understand the skill and time involved don't think the items are worth the price.
Similar to the people who expect artists, writers, photographers, web designers, et al. to do something for free, because "it will be a great addition to your portfolio" or "it will be good publicity for you."

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1165 on: June 21, 2013, 10:57:07 AM »
That's always a problem with high-quality crafts.  People who know how to do them, appreciate why the crafters ask the prices they do.  Those who don't understand the skill and time involved don't think the items are worth the price.

As someone who does a LOT of cross-stitch (and springs for good, quality framing as well), I concur.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1166 on: June 21, 2013, 11:01:42 AM »
Or expect musicians to play for free.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1167 on: June 21, 2013, 11:22:42 AM »
"you shouldn't charge so much for this, afterall, it's something you like to do".

Said in variations to both my quilts and my glass work.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1168 on: June 21, 2013, 11:24:06 AM »
I would like to post a public service message. We have been getting a lot of "account verification" phishing emails. Most have been coming from other domains, but today we received one from an internal email address. I immediately sent it to our IT people, but one person in our office clicked the link, so we aren't sure of the ramifications yet.
ďAll that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost."
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1169 on: June 21, 2013, 11:45:23 AM »
I knit and I love making gifts for loved ones (cabled fingerless gloves for Christmas gifts one year was such a huge hit!), but then the beggars come out.  'Ohhhh, I saw those gloves you made for X, can you make some for me and my DD's and my mother and every family member I have?".  Sure, no problem.  I charge $20 + yarn for each pair.  Oh the wailing and teeth gnashing!  You charge????  I have to buy yarn??? (and I will only knit with quality yarn..I hate red heart) But you looooove to knit...you must have a ton of yarn!  Why yes, I do love to knit, and yes I do have a lot of yarn, for my personal use.  I then tell them a neck warmer I made (it was an awesome project!) sold for $150 (to a set designer for The Dark Knight Rises!!!) and their eyes pop out of their heads.  Just because someone has a hobby doesn't mean we will want to do something for you (general)..it costs money people!!!