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#### LazyDaisy

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« Reply #1215 on: June 27, 2013, 11:05:11 AM »
Ugh. Reader's Digest. They run on-line contests (like win a vacation or suite of Cuisinart appliances) you can allegedly sign up for "no purchase necessary." I was a registered on-line user (free) at the time and I thought some of them would be fun to enter. While they didn't ask me for a credit card or payment at the time I signed up, I started to receive bills for the magazine without ever signing up for a subscription. So apparently, there is a purchase necessary to enter the contest. I cancelled not only the scam subscription but my on-line registration too.

Real Simple magazine started sending me renewal notices within 2 weeks of beginning my 1-year subscription. By the time the year was up, I was so annoyed by the "urgent" renewal notices every 2 weeks, I cancelled. I've been so put off by subscription hassles with so many magazines that I no longer subscribe to anything -- I just buy the individual issues I'm really interested in, or read the on-line editions.
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« Reply #1216 on: June 27, 2013, 11:37:25 AM »
I've gotten that a couple of times.  If I'm in a bad mood, I just get off the phone as quickly as possible.  If I'm in a good mood, I say we have a "Corellian YT-1300 Stock Light" copier with an "Incom T-65" paper tray.

We get these calls constantly at our office. They drive my coworker & I insane. I did manage to greatly amuse my boss one day when he heard me say "Our copier model? Enterprise NCC-1701-D, of course!"

#### cwm

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« Reply #1217 on: June 27, 2013, 12:33:14 PM »
I got a call yesterday at my unlisted work number. The recording on the other end said that they were with the Department of Motor Vehicles and they were calling about my car, saying I was overpaying insurance.

Let's take apart how many problems there are with this.
1. I don't have a car registered with the DMV. My car was totalled. I'm driving my mom's old car, but it's still in her name.
2. The DMV in my state would call from the state capitol, not some other random city nowhere near it.
3. The caller ID for the DMV would have some sort of government identifying name on it.
4. What I pay in insurance is between my insurer and me, not the DMV.

I wouldn't put it past our state to try to have recorded phone calls from the DMV for valid reasons, but not this. I'm half wondering if I should tell anyone who runs the phone lines at work, as we've got a block of direct lines that are similar to each other, but so far it's just me, as far as I know. I don't even know what they'd be able to do.

#### Pen^2

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« Reply #1218 on: June 27, 2013, 12:47:59 PM »
When I moved permanently away from my country of origin, I needed to cancel my private health insurance there. There was nothing on the website that would do it, so I supposed they wanted people to ring up. Just under a month before I finally left, I made the call. The first lady I spoke to was very helpful and although it took a while, we cancelled it and all was well. A week later, I got another call, explaining that although I had cancelled the insurance (which is paid monthly in advance), I had actually paid an extra month by mistake. I was busy, but the man assured me that it would be easy to refund the money to my bank account whenever I was free to call back.

When I called back, I got a different man, who suddenly informed me that it was not they who owed me money, but the other way around! He started taking me through steps to have me pay what I apparently owed. I felt uncomfortable about this, because I always pay these things promptly (hence overpaying without realising), and a few things he said sounded off. I said I was suddenly busy when he asked for my bank account details (they should already be in their system) and would call back to do it a bit later.

The fourth person I spoke with was confused--no, I don't owe them anything, they owe me. She sorted out my refund, and I made a point of complaining about the guy who had tried to make me pay extra. I had his name (when people on the phone introduce themselves I always write it down) so hopefully something came of it.

#### Quiltin Nana

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« Reply #1219 on: June 27, 2013, 12:54:03 PM »
Yesterday we got a phone call - "the manufacturer's warranty on your vehicle has expired and you need to renew it. "

I'm sure the dealer and the manufacturer would actually mention the make and model of your car.

I get these and mail notices that my 1995 Ford Explorer warranty is expiring soon.  It was traded away 5 years ago.  Even if I still had that vehicle it would be 18 years old!!!

#### jedikaiti

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« Reply #1220 on: June 27, 2013, 12:59:39 PM »
I've gotten that a couple of times.  If I'm in a bad mood, I just get off the phone as quickly as possible.  If I'm in a good mood, I say we have a "Corellian YT-1300 Stock Light" copier with an "Incom T-65" paper tray.

We get these calls constantly at our office. They drive my coworker & I insane. I did manage to greatly amuse my boss one day when he heard me say "Our copier model? Enterprise NCC-1701-D, of course!"

I really hope to get one of those calls one day just so I can use that.
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« Reply #1221 on: June 27, 2013, 01:01:12 PM »
The Mazda sedan I had in 2000 is still listed under my driver's license on my state records, because it was traded in and shipped out of state by the dealer. I wish I could get it removed!
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#### gramma dishes

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« Reply #1222 on: June 27, 2013, 01:05:51 PM »
The Mazda sedan I had in 2000 is still listed under my driver's license on my state records, because it was traded in and shipped out of state by the dealer. I wish I could get it removed!

That shouldn't be.  I'm assuming you traded it in or sold it to the dealer?  When you relinquished the title, you had to sign it as the seller, right?  Or does that vary from state to state?

It would seem to me that if it's still showing up with you as the owner, then the new owner's title isn't valid!

#### daen

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« Reply #1223 on: June 27, 2013, 06:45:00 PM »
My grandmother called yesterday.  She'd subscribed my two older daughters to a magazine (it has different age levels, so each gets her own).  She said she had just wanted to let me know she'd received a renewal notice and she'd be renewing the magazines.  I was puzzled at this, because I didn't *think* they'd been getting the magazine for a year already.  Thanks to this thread, I knew that magazines try to get you to renew and renew and renew.  So I accessed our account online and discovered that we're up for renewal in December, not now.  So I was able to tell her that, and she can save her money for six months.    I'm contemplating whether I should contact the magazine and tell them that I'm disappointed in them.  They might contract out that sort of thing to another company.  But, nonetheless, it definitely doesn't give me happy thoughts when thinking of them, and I *do* like the magazine a lot!

These renewal notices may have nothing to do with the publisher of the magazine at all.

Every issue of Harper's has a box warning subscribers against fake renewal notices.

Also, the mailing label on each magazine we receive has the date of the last issue printed on it somewhere.

I manage the magazine subscriptions in our library - somewhere around 120-150 titles. I get to track the expiry dates for all of them. I'd say about two-thirds of the magazines print the expiry date on the label, although it's not very clear on some issues, and I do appreciate seeing that expiry date.  (Especially when, instead of renewing our subscription to a specific magazine, they start a new one that runs concurrently with the old one for a few months. )

I usually end up contacting the subscription service to get the missing expiry dates so that I can keep my records straight. By the way - if you're ever asked to subscribe to a magazine as a fundraiser, and the supplier is QSP/Reader's Digest, you can be fairly confident that the magazines are reasonably priced, and the QSP customer service reps are very good if you have questions about your subscription later.

The renewal reminders come in spurts, and mostly I open them, pull out the return envelope, and recycle the rest. The envelopes come in handy for other library processes, and I rather enjoy turning a frequent annoyance into a source of office supplies.

#### Elfmama

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« Reply #1224 on: June 27, 2013, 08:19:13 PM »

Real Simple magazine started sending me renewal notices within 2 weeks of beginning my 1-year subscription. By the time the year was up, I was so annoyed by the "urgent" renewal notices every 2 weeks, I cancelled. I've been so put off by subscription hassles with so many magazines that I no longer subscribe to anything -- I just buy the individual issues I'm really interested in, or read the on-line editions.
I've gotten renewal notices before I ever receive the first issue of the magazine!

And when one of my favorite quilt magazines sent me what looked like a bill with "PAST DUE NOTICE" plastered on the front, I not only did NOT renew, but I canceled the remainder of the subscription.      I'll buy it off ebay second-hand, but never again a subscription or a newsstand issue.
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#### mbbored

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« Reply #1225 on: June 27, 2013, 09:26:49 PM »
I recently got a check for $3 from my mortgage company. I was a little confused and decided (for once) to read the fine print. The check was in fact from a third party and by depositing the check I was signing up for a year's worth of blah blah blah insurance on my home and they would directly bill my mortgage company. #### lilfox • Member • Posts: 2429 ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #1226 on: June 27, 2013, 09:50:43 PM » I recently got a check for$3 from my mortgage company. I was a little confused and decided (for once) to read the fine print. The check was in fact from a third party and by depositing the check I was signing up for a year's worth of blah blah blah insurance on my home and they would directly bill my mortgage company.

I just got that one too!  In the fine print it says it's for a 30 day free trial, after which I would be automatically billed \$55 per month until I call to cancel.  Yeah, no.

#### exitzero

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« Reply #1227 on: June 28, 2013, 05:38:38 AM »
Looks like the Nigeria scammers are feeling a little remorse.
I got an email today saying that they are reimbursing all the people who taken in by their scams.
All I have to do is email them my bank information and they will send me a cool 1.5 mil!
Wahoo!

#### Barney girl

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« Reply #1228 on: June 28, 2013, 06:36:01 AM »
I don't think this was a scam, more mis-directed advertising.
I had an email from a company who could do aerial photos for publicity purposes. They cover Melbourne at the moment, but expect to be widening their area.

Sounds a good idea, but I'm in the UK!

#### Softly Spoken

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« Reply #1229 on: June 28, 2013, 11:27:08 AM »
I've gotten three separate recorded calls now on my answering machine, telling me they are going to deliver my medic alert equipment. You know the "I've fallen and I can't get up" buttons? Yeah, I didn't order that. Ever. Maybe they are hoping I'm old and senile and wouldn't remember whether I'd ordered it or not?
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