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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1485 on: August 14, 2013, 09:27:15 AM »
I've also heard of people using a stolen card on Paypal, and when the owner cancels the card and charges are reversed, it's too late for you to get your long-gone items back.
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« Reply #1486 on: August 14, 2013, 09:53:42 AM »
DH got annoyed with me yesterday because I told him a car he found on Craigslist was a scam. He sent me an email from work telling me to email about this car RIGHT AWAY because it was such a fantastic deal. I clicked the link and it's a 2004 Honda Accord EX-L (or whatever the very top of the line version was) with 81k miles for $2067. The headline was written

=======like!======this!======

and it mentioned in at least three different places that it was a 3 liter engine. There was also a gmail address in the body of the text, which is not usual around here. I looked up the Kelly Blue Book value of the car and it was over $10k. I emailed him back and told him I thought that was a scam. He got annoyed with me and said that it wouldn't hurt to email, and I could just make a throwaway email address and use that. I didn't reply since I had just gotten the baby to sleep and that's when I work out, plus making a throwaway email address for an ad I knew was a scam was more work than I was willing to do. After I finished working out, I went back and clicked the link again and lo and behold, it had been flagged for removal.

I emailed DH and told him, and also told him a few things that are red flags for scams. The weird price, the excessive punctuation, restating a random piece of information over and over, the gmail address in the body of the ad, the fact that it was ridiculously cheap, etc. He replied that of course I could say that now, I had hindsight. I said no, these were immediate red flags for me and they should be for you, too. Later on when he was at home he saw a car priced at $2515 and said "I wonder if this is a scam too." After looking at the ad (almost no info, Yahoo email address in the body) I said probably. He thinks we should give these ads the benefit of the doubt, as "what if they just really need money?" I said "yeah, and what if the car is stolen?" He had no response for that.

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« Reply #1487 on: August 14, 2013, 09:55:14 AM »
I think that there should be a special circle of hell reserved for people who scam seniors.   >:(

I read an article (and it may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, too) that said that the part of your brain that is skeptical of scams and stuff like that deteriorates as you get older. That scares me, to think that you could be perfectly aware that something's not legit then get taken in by the same thing later in life.

I think (or I hope) that knowledge is power. If you /know/ what you just wrote here, you can keep it in mind and try to outweigh it by being extra alert, you know? And maybe by continuing to read a lot about scams as you grow older.

And when you get older, you can start to run financial decisions past younger, trusted members of your family first.  Not "going to buy a new dress at Kohl's," but, "going to send some money to this charity that called me last night."

My uncle said that in her later years, my grandmother was donating money to the opposite political party than what she'd staunchly supported most of her life. (she had Alzheimer's) One year she sent me 3 different birthday cards, each with $20 in it.  I had some mixed feelings about it and wanted to give it back to her but was told it would just embarrass her (very likely, she got embarrassed quite easily) so it was a kindness to just keep it. 

She's gone now but I wish I'd lived closer and could have taken her out to lunch with that $.
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« Reply #1488 on: August 14, 2013, 12:08:21 PM »
Beggar story, brief, but annoying.

What do you do when you post on social media that you found a good deal on x-items, or you scored something awesome at a garage/yard/estate sale, and a relative consistently comments, "I want x item!" Like I had offered the item up for the taking? The thing is, some of the time, based on who it is, I know they are joking, but other times I can't tell if the person seriously thinks I should just give it to them because they asked for it...  ::) (I'm looking at you, Mom!)

For now, I just post back an LOL, but it's starting to make me hesitant about posting any "Scores", and it's taking some of the joy out of bargain hunting.

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« Reply #1489 on: August 14, 2013, 12:14:21 PM »
Beggar story, brief, but annoying.

What do you do when you post on social media that you found a good deal on x-items, or you scored something awesome at a garage/yard/estate sale, and a relative consistently comments, "I want x item!" Like I had offered the item up for the taking? The thing is, some of the time, based on who it is, I know they are joking, but other times I can't tell if the person seriously thinks I should just give it to them because they asked for it...  ::) (I'm looking at you, Mom!)

For now, I just post back an LOL, but it's starting to make me hesitant about posting any "Scores", and it's taking some of the joy out of bargain hunting.

I'd offer to bring them with you next time you go to the garage sales. Sometimes that can be fun. And if they decline and keep commenting that they want X item, let them know that they'll be first on your list of people to notify when you decide to have your own garage sale and get rid of it. Then ignore.

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« Reply #1490 on: August 14, 2013, 01:29:44 PM »
Beggar story, brief, but annoying.

What do you do when you post on social media that you found a good deal on x-items, or you scored something awesome at a garage/yard/estate sale, and a relative consistently comments, "I want x item!" Like I had offered the item up for the taking? The thing is, some of the time, based on who it is, I know they are joking, but other times I can't tell if the person seriously thinks I should just give it to them because they asked for it...  ::) (I'm looking at you, Mom!)

For now, I just post back an LOL, but it's starting to make me hesitant about posting any "Scores", and it's taking some of the joy out of bargain hunting.

"I didn't know that you were wanting one of them - I'll keep an eye out for another one & phone you if I find one - tell me what you were willing to pay, so I don't go over your budget!"

If they don't get back to you - don't look very hard.  If you do trip over one - call them to let them know that you found their item.  If it is a Singer Featherweight with the original table in good shape for only $100 - call ME, the table alone was running $300 (the tables got used to death as they were "card table size" with a cut out for the machine & a piece to fill in the cut out) a few years ago.

Quilters want Featherweights and the original tables.....
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« Reply #1491 on: August 14, 2013, 02:32:20 PM »
DH got annoyed with me yesterday because I told him a car he found on Craigslist was a scam. He sent me an email from work telling me to email about this car RIGHT AWAY because it was such a fantastic deal. I clicked the link and it's a 2004 Honda Accord EX-L (or whatever the very top of the line version was) with 81k miles for $2067. The headline was written

=======like!======this!======

and it mentioned in at least three different places that it was a 3 liter engine. There was also a gmail address in the body of the text, which is not usual around here. I looked up the Kelly Blue Book value of the car and it was over $10k. I emailed him back and told him I thought that was a scam. He got annoyed with me and said that it wouldn't hurt to email, and I could just make a throwaway email address and use that. I didn't reply since I had just gotten the baby to sleep and that's when I work out, plus making a throwaway email address for an ad I knew was a scam was more work than I was willing to do. After I finished working out, I went back and clicked the link again and lo and behold, it had been flagged for removal.

I emailed DH and told him, and also told him a few things that are red flags for scams. The weird price, the excessive punctuation, restating a random piece of information over and over, the gmail address in the body of the ad, the fact that it was ridiculously cheap, etc. He replied that of course I could say that now, I had hindsight. I said no, these were immediate red flags for me and they should be for you, too. Later on when he was at home he saw a car priced at $2515 and said "I wonder if this is a scam too." After looking at the ad (almost no info, Yahoo email address in the body) I said probably. He thinks we should give these ads the benefit of the doubt, as "what if they just really need money?" I said "yeah, and what if the car is stolen?" He had no response for that.

We moved to a new state, new part of the country, when my dh took a job here (we are midwesterners transplanted to the Deep South.) I took to craigslist to check out housing options and would send them to my dh. (He moved down while I took care of odds and ends and got our house ready for sale.) I quickly learned that anything below $600/month/rental was a scam or a house with out central air.  I had emailed about a house (via the craigslist reply button) and received an email back that the house I was looking at was rented, but if I'd fill out the attached form and email it back, they'd add me to their list and let me know when new houses become available.

The information requested: Names, DOB, SS #, address, birth city, etc. Stuff that you'd need to fill out for a credit check, but heck no I'm not sending that out when 1.  I have no idea who I'm actually emailing and 2. I've not even looked at a house.

Oh and after looking at a few ads on CL for rentals, I discovered that a lot of the "rentals available" had the same pictures.

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« Reply #1492 on: August 15, 2013, 09:55:34 AM »
There's one intersection on my way to work that is the regular haunt of a rotating series of beggars.  There's even a couple of paths worn in the grass from people walking up and down the turn lanes, holding their handmade signs.  I've wondered if they know each other, is there a sign-up sheet or appointment book, do drivers keep handing out money when there is a beggar out there 4 days out of 5?   ???

This morning's beggar was a new one, a young woman who looked dressed for a cashier or waitress.  Perhaps she was picking up some spare change before going to her real job.

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« Reply #1493 on: August 15, 2013, 10:48:22 AM »
..Or maybe she is going for the 'dress for the job you want' approach

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« Reply #1494 on: August 15, 2013, 11:20:19 AM »
I received an email, supposedly because I opted in on an email list, from a woman in a town about 45 minutes from here. She is hosting a fundraiser to send herself to Thailand, not for a vacation, but to give massages to orphans. Somehow she got some serious places to donate good items for the silent auction because it is connected to a site that does things like send adults to orphanages overseas. I have no idea why she is doing this but I find this idea of massages for orphans to be beyond weird.

I want massages! I want to travel like that! But no one would fund me.

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« Reply #1495 on: August 15, 2013, 11:25:49 AM »
There's one intersection on my way to work that is the regular haunt of a rotating series of beggars.  There's even a couple of paths worn in the grass from people walking up and down the turn lanes, holding their handmade signs.  I've wondered if they know each other, is there a sign-up sheet or appointment book, do drivers keep handing out money when there is a beggar out there 4 days out of 5?   ???

This morning's beggar was a new one, a young woman who looked dressed for a cashier or waitress.  Perhaps she was picking up some spare change before going to her real job.

I wouldn't be surprised if the corner panhandlers do know each other and/or are working together.  Our local paper interviewed a couple of our "regulars" (who've been there since at least 2011) - one guy was the main spokesperson but he talked about how they banded together (some, anyway) and pool their money at the end of the day.  He said the main goal was to make enough to get a room at a local cheap hotel, with extra going to food, but sometimes they'd have to decide whether shelter or food was higher priority.  But he also talked about newbies showing up and there being disagreements about who got to work what corner (big intersection near major freeway ramps, there are 3 prime spots) - usually not involving violence but ...

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« Reply #1496 on: August 15, 2013, 11:45:12 AM »
Funniest thing I ever saw was two panhandlers getting into it over a prime median on the way home.  Usually at this intersection there is this one older gentlemen who wears all white and is fairly neat in appearance.  White pants, white shirt, white shoes, dirty white jacket in the fall and winter.  Well one day I'm waiting and a new guy is there.  This guy is a bit older and looks like he hasn't had a wash in a few weeks.  I get to the light just as it turns red so I'm waiting and watching.  All of a sudden the regular guy comes running down the street screaming.  Next thing I know there is yelling, and slapping, and pushing, etc.  At that point the light changed. 

Haven't seen the new guy since :)

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« Reply #1497 on: August 15, 2013, 11:54:04 AM »
Got an interesting one last night.  The doorbell rings.  I answer it.  There is a teenaged girl wearing shorts and a black t-shirt.  She goes into a speech about how she lives around the corner (I have never seen her before) and she goes to Z public high school (everyone in our neighborhood goes to X public high school) and her volleyball team is raising funds for new equipment.  She wasn't wearing her uniform.  She didn't have an envelope or a purse to collect the money.  She didn't have a flyer to give us or anything to sell.  She just asked for money.  I smiled and told her sorry and then shut the door.
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« Reply #1498 on: August 15, 2013, 12:00:12 PM »
Beggar story, brief, but annoying.

What do you do when you post on social media that you found a good deal on x-items, or you scored something awesome at a garage/yard/estate sale, and a relative consistently comments, "I want x item!" Like I had offered the item up for the taking? The thing is, some of the time, based on who it is, I know they are joking, but other times I can't tell if the person seriously thinks I should just give it to them because they asked for it...  ::) (I'm looking at you, Mom!)

For now, I just post back an LOL, but it's starting to make me hesitant about posting any "Scores", and it's taking some of the joy out of bargain hunting.

"I didn't know that you were wanting one of them - I'll keep an eye out for another one & phone you if I find one - tell me what you were willing to pay, so I don't go over your budget!"

If they don't get back to you - don't look very hard.  If you do trip over one - call them to let them know that you found their item.  If it is a Singer Featherweight with the original table in good shape for only $100 - call ME, the table alone was running $300 (the tables got used to death as they were "card table size" with a cut out for the machine & a piece to fill in the cut out) a few years ago.

Quilters want Featherweights and the original tables.....

If I found a Featherweight for that price, it'd be in MY sewing room soooo fast, lol!

The item in question? Vintage christmas ornaments that I had been looking for for years without much success.  The person who wanted them? My mom, who has long told me that she just doesn't get my love for all things vintage... Facepalm moment, for sure.

A good friend: the expensive sewing gadget that I got for 75% off retail at a consignment store. She is now hinting that she wants to borrow it, but I know she won't take care of it, she won't want to buy the supplies it needs to operate, and if I get it back anytime before Christmas it'd be a miracle (I planned to use it to make some items for my etsy shop, to gear up for Christmas).

I also get annoyed by friends saying, "ooooo, can I have some!?!?" when I order food items for myself, often before I can even take a single bite, or am sitting down to eat the last of an anticipated treat, or when I am starting to fix leftovers for dinner when I am not sure there will be enough for just me. I'm willing to share, but jeesh, it should be my choice to offer, right?

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« Reply #1499 on: August 15, 2013, 12:05:24 PM »
I had been unemployed for some time and filling out online applications was like walking through a minefield.

A lot will ask you to pay for a security background check or credit check - both are scams.

Also, I've never gotten so much spam in my life and I think it's because of all the online applications I filled out. I have the feeling some of them were just selling email addressed :-\