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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1590 on: September 10, 2013, 08:24:39 AM »
Well she's already an SS for doing what she did to her child.  It's not too far of a stretch to think she doesn't care if she wasn't supposed to move while being prosecuted. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1591 on: September 10, 2013, 09:10:33 AM »
This is in my hometown.
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/utah-mom-allegedly-faked-daughters-cancer-collect-donations-100110030.html
The reason this all came to light is that the woman would text her ex for money to take the daughter to "treatments" out of state. It was always after a supposed treatment had happened, so he couldn't come along. He became suspicious as he never saw any actual billings hit his insurance, which covered  his children.

There is, of course, more to the story than is in that article. Like, her first daughter (now age 11) had leukemia, so everyone felt very sad that her second child now had it. (From what I've heard, DCFS are now investigating to make sure the older daughter did have leukemia, that hers wasn't faked as well.)

Also, the younger child, age 4, was firmly of the belief she had leukemia; she cried when she was told she was healthy. Her hair had been thinning, they are looking into whether this sorry excuse for a mother was giving her child medicine to fake the cancer, or thinning it with a tiny clipper, or what. There were pictures everywhere of the child in what looks like a hospital room, wearing the smock, sitting on a hospital bed. I hope that little girl grows up psychologically healthy...being told you are possibly dying at a young age cannot be healthy.

The community has boycotted the trendy clothing store this woman owns. Perhaps this should be in the PD thread as well.

ETA: Here's the local news article that talks about her older daughter.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=26433288&nid=481
UPDATE
Abby was scheduled to be in court this morning for an initial appearance, but she wasn't there. Her attorney was, who said that she has moved to Texas. The initial appearance has been rescheduled to Oct. 16.

That is all that was reported. No word on whether this counted as skipping bail, I'm guessing not since that would have made the story for sensationalism.

How can someone just "decide" to move when they're expected in court? I expected the next line of the story to be "She was tracked down and arrested."

Maybe I've just watched too many cop shows but usually "don't leave town" is one of the first things they tell someone...

An ex-sil of mine moved from Texas to another state (and relocated again a little over a year ago to still another state when her current spouse changed jobs).  She'd gotten out of jail to find a job so that she could comply with a court order....I don't know if she's ever been back to Texas...although if she ever does, I really, really hope that she gets pulled over for a burned out turn signal and CAUGHT!
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1592 on: September 10, 2013, 10:59:28 AM »
This is in my hometown.
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/utah-mom-allegedly-faked-daughters-cancer-collect-donations-100110030.html
The reason this all came to light is that the woman would text her ex for money to take the daughter to "treatments" out of state. It was always after a supposed treatment had happened, so he couldn't come along. He became suspicious as he never saw any actual billings hit his insurance, which covered  his children.

There is, of course, more to the story than is in that article. Like, her first daughter (now age 11) had leukemia, so everyone felt very sad that her second child now had it. (From what I've heard, DCFS are now investigating to make sure the older daughter did have leukemia, that hers wasn't faked as well.)

Also, the younger child, age 4, was firmly of the belief she had leukemia; she cried when she was told she was healthy. Her hair had been thinning, they are looking into whether this sorry excuse for a mother was giving her child medicine to fake the cancer, or thinning it with a tiny clipper, or what. There were pictures everywhere of the child in what looks like a hospital room, wearing the smock, sitting on a hospital bed. I hope that little girl grows up psychologically healthy...being told you are possibly dying at a young age cannot be healthy.

The community has boycotted the trendy clothing store this woman owns. Perhaps this should be in the PD thread as well.

ETA: Here's the local news article that talks about her older daughter.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=26433288&nid=481
UPDATE
Abby was scheduled to be in court this morning for an initial appearance, but she wasn't there. Her attorney was, who said that she has moved to Texas. The initial appearance has been rescheduled to Oct. 16.

That is all that was reported. No word on whether this counted as skipping bail, I'm guessing not since that would have made the story for sensationalism.

How can someone just "decide" to move when they're expected in court? I expected the next line of the story to be "She was tracked down and arrested."

Maybe I've just watched too many cop shows but usually "don't leave town" is one of the first things they tell someone...

An ex-sil of mine moved from Texas to another state (and relocated again a little over a year ago to still another state when her current spouse changed jobs).  She'd gotten out of jail to find a job so that she could comply with a court order....I don't know if she's ever been back to Texas...although if she ever does, I really, really hope that she gets pulled over for a burned out turn signal and CAUGHT!

Wow!  They'd better haul Scam Mom back.  This story made national news.  (Otherwise:  Do bad things. Move. Then you're off the hook. :o)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2013, 11:03:03 AM by Otterpop »

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1593 on: September 10, 2013, 11:21:41 AM »
Rumors on the Scam Mom/Abby W. are flying fast and thick in Hometown right now. I will let you all know when the dust settles and something is confirmed as truth. All that's known for sure is she is somewhere in Texas, somehow her lawyer got the judge to agree to moving the date when she didn't show up yesterday. No bail-jump warrant out yet.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1594 on: September 12, 2013, 05:33:31 PM »
I got a great one today!

The email is from "Agent Patterson" (agentpatterson at embarqmail dot com). It has a file attachment - "FBI CONSOLIDATED COMPENSAT~1.txt" and reads as follows...

"Greetings from the office of the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI),Washington D.C. This email exchange is an investigative exercise carried out by the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) routinely to check email traffic on the internet. Please download to receive compensation or Text 1] [214] 997-4354."

Yea, right.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1595 on: September 12, 2013, 05:40:34 PM »
Not sure what to make of this guy.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/aussie-skate-star-ben-jamess-nyc-nightmare-hit-by-cab-and-us200000-medical-bill/story-fndukor0-1226718116822

I do now if he stayed in Australia he wouldn't have had such medical bills.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1596 on: September 12, 2013, 07:29:36 PM »
Katana_Geldar wrote:

"I do now if he stayed in Australia he wouldn't have had such medical bills."

I'll avoid direct legal advice but it sounds like he needs a good lawyer.  I'm mystified that his insurance company didn't just open up proceedings against the cab company to begin with.  Of course, I'm also wondering why he's listed in a thread on scammers, beggars and moochers.  He's got a pretty good reason to try to raise money.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1597 on: September 12, 2013, 10:29:44 PM »
Not sure what to make of this guy.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/aussie-skate-star-ben-jamess-nyc-nightmare-hit-by-cab-and-us200000-medical-bill/story-fndukor0-1226718116822

I do now if he stayed in Australia he wouldn't have had such medical bills.

Isn't that a bit victim blaming?

'That man wouldn't have been hit by a car if he had just stayed home?'
'That woman wouldn't have had a race crime committed against her if she just stayed in her own country'

I think you are being unfair, and I don't think he is scamming but I do agree with Virg that he needs a good lawyer.



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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1598 on: September 12, 2013, 10:37:40 PM »
he probably does need a good lawyer. I wonder if there was dangerous activity clause in his insurance
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1599 on: September 12, 2013, 11:53:56 PM »
he probably does need a good lawyer. I wonder if there was dangerous activity clause in his insurance

I am guessing there is more to this story than is being told, probably something like he was considered at fault for the accident or his travel insurance doesn't cover skateboarding.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1600 on: September 13, 2013, 10:19:51 AM »
My sister posted this on face book yesterday.

So, I get an email from 'Leslie Smith' this morning..

"I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came over here to Manila,Philippines for a short vacation. unfortunately,we were mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash and credit card were stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us. We've been to the Embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all and our flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills. Well I really need your financial assistance..Please, Let me know if you can help us out? Am freaked out at the moment."

My reply...

" 'Leslie'

How fortunate that despite the fact that you haven't paid your bill, the hotel let you continue using their internet to email hundreds of people for money...

And even more astonishing that you managed to conjure up hundreds of strangers email addresses to contact (instead of any friends or family?!) even in this truelly distressing situation.

While i was desperately scrambling to get my credit card so i could send you thousands of pounds to rescue you - i had a thought - with your powers of persuasion and this new physchic ability you've unearthed, why don't you negotiate to borrow a few pounds to put the lottory on and win the money you need??

Be sure to let me know when you've won if you need more funds to release your winnings...

Good luck, god bless"

I'll let you know how 'Leslie' and his family get on...
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1601 on: September 13, 2013, 01:02:56 PM »
Not sure what to make of this guy.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/aussie-skate-star-ben-jamess-nyc-nightmare-hit-by-cab-and-us200000-medical-bill/story-fndukor0-1226718116822

I do now if he stayed in Australia he wouldn't have had such medical bills.

Isn't that a bit victim blaming?

'That man wouldn't have been hit by a car if he had just stayed home?'
'That woman wouldn't have had a race crime committed against her if she just stayed in her own country'

I think you are being unfair, and I don't think he is scamming but I do agree with Virg that he needs a good lawyer.
think what's being said is that "had he incurred such an accident in Australia, he would not have had such bills because the national health system would have covered part or all it." or "because health care costs are much cheaper in Australia."
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 04:48:51 PM by nutraxfornerves »

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1602 on: September 13, 2013, 01:39:44 PM »
he probably does need a good lawyer. I wonder if there was dangerous activity clause in his insurance

I am guessing there is more to this story than is being told, probably something like he was considered at fault for the accident or his travel insurance doesn't cover skateboarding.

My insurance doesn't cover injuries sustained while participating in extreme sports, or professional sports. Possibly the skateboarding qualified as one of those? I'd think just boarding down a street in NYC would qualify as extreme..  :D

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1603 on: September 13, 2013, 02:25:00 PM »
This is in my hometown.
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/utah-mom-allegedly-faked-daughters-cancer-collect-donations-100110030.html
The reason this all came to light is that the woman would text her ex for money to take the daughter to "treatments" out of state. It was always after a supposed treatment had happened, so he couldn't come along. He became suspicious as he never saw any actual billings hit his insurance, which covered  his children.

There is, of course, more to the story than is in that article. Like, her first daughter (now age 11) had leukemia, so everyone felt very sad that her second child now had it. (From what I've heard, DCFS are now investigating to make sure the older daughter did have leukemia, that hers wasn't faked as well.)

Also, the younger child, age 4, was firmly of the belief she had leukemia; she cried when she was told she was healthy. Her hair had been thinning, they are looking into whether this sorry excuse for a mother was giving her child medicine to fake the cancer, or thinning it with a tiny clipper, or what. There were pictures everywhere of the child in what looks like a hospital room, wearing the smock, sitting on a hospital bed. I hope that little girl grows up psychologically healthy...being told you are possibly dying at a young age cannot be healthy.

The community has boycotted the trendy clothing store this woman owns. Perhaps this should be in the PD thread as well.

ETA: Here's the local news article that talks about her older daughter.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=26433288&nid=481
UPDATE
Abby was scheduled to be in court this morning for an initial appearance, but she wasn't there. Her attorney was, who said that she has moved to Texas. The initial appearance has been rescheduled to Oct. 16.

That is all that was reported. No word on whether this counted as skipping bail, I'm guessing not since that would have made the story for sensationalism.

How can someone just "decide" to move when they're expected in court? I expected the next line of the story to be "She was tracked down and arrested."

Maybe I've just watched too many cop shows but usually "don't leave town" is one of the first things they tell someone...

I read a book by Ann Rule, "Everything She Ever Wanted" about a woman who probably had a gumbo of personality disorders, marked by faked illnesses, faked assaults on her, faked attempts on her life, plus a string of pretty astonishing criminal behavior.  When she was in her 40s-50s, she was investigated for her latest round of criminal activity and was questioned about her as-yet-to-be-proven part in poisoning/over-medicating an older couple that she was supposed to be caring for and she was all astonishment that the authorities thought to ask her about it, "Well, that was YEARS ago," she said, as if time had somehow undone the damage she did.  She had forgotten about the crime, wiped the slate clean, and walked away and seriously didn't understand why everybody else hadn't done the same.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1604 on: September 13, 2013, 05:41:15 PM »
That's right, the guy would have gotten a better deal with our health system. I'm surprised he hasn't been paid anything by the cab company.

Ok, there's something about this woman that annoys me. I think she's scamming refunds by using them for not what they're intended. Refunds happen if the product is faulty, doesn't fit or do what its meant to do.

http://news.com.au/lifestyle/meet-bonnie-she-gets-a-rush-from-spending-up-big-one-day-then-returning-it-all-the-next/story-fneszs56-1226718937057
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 05:52:00 PM by Katana_Geldar »