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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1590 on: September 14, 2013, 02:02:16 PM »
                                       ***Happy Dance****

At last some one has tried to scam me!  They aren't asking me to help them steal millions of dollars but still...

It is a letter from a VP of US Airlines telling me that I qualify for two free tickets and to call now.

(happy sigh)  I feel complete somehow. ;D

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1591 on: September 14, 2013, 04:31:40 PM »
At the pharmacy checkout today, guy is giving the clerk a very hard time as he attempts to open the packaging on some kind of medical devices (I think syringes, but I'm honestly not sure -- there was a sealed plastic bag around multiple items of some kind) he hasn't yet paid for. She tells him she can't restock it if he opens it and doesn't end up paying for it, and to please give it back until such a time as he has decided to actually buy the items. She's practically yelling at him to hand it back, and he eventually does.

She steps away, and he starts harassing me to "Just show her your ID! I need you to show her your ID!"
"I will not do that," I respond, not knowing why she'd need an ID or what kind of liability I'd be under if I did that for someone else's controlled substances/materials.
"But I'm illegally parked and I need to get out of here right now!" (Let the record show that he was red eyed and frantic, and most certainly not in condition to drive.)
"I'm not going to show someone my ID so you can buy something."
"Just do it, please! I'm gonna get a parking ticket if you don't."
I turn to the second clerk and ask about my prescription. He's trying to communicate with me about personal details of my medication. He asks the red-eyed man to, "Please step back for confidentiality reasons."
Red Eyes is no longer panting directly on me, but he is still whining about his car, and why won't I just show my ID for him?
I scoot closer to the kiosk and swipe my card, using a hand to shield the keypad as I enter my PIN. "Please, back off."
He doesn't move. "All you'd have to do is be over 21! Just, please! Please!"
I say nothing, and rush over to my husband, who's in the waiting area. "We have to get out of here NOW," I tell him. "I do not want to say why, just come on!" He's dawdling, looking at a magazine, but when I pull his arm a little, he knows to get on with it.

We're waiting for the train at a stop opposite the pharmacy. I see the guy walk outside after we're seated, and pull my hood up so he won't recognize me. He's on his phone, texting and walking, eventually approaching a Coca-Cola delivery person before turning around and walking past the pharmacy again, approaching a couple of people in the process.

He eventually stalks off, past the pharmacy (though I know there's another one about 4 blocks down, so perhaps that's where he was headed to try his luck). Guess he wasn't too worried about parking tickets after all!

(I really wish I knew what he was trying to get me to get for him. All my "this guy has a drug problem!" alarm bells were going off, but I can't be sure there wasn't a logical explanation.)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1592 on: September 14, 2013, 05:10:19 PM »
I think some jurisdictions still restrict sales of syringes, on the theory that doing so may stop some people from using illegal drugs.

This was a lot more common before the AIDS epidemic. Now, many places are working on the theory that while heroin abuse and addiction are bad, sharing needles makes it worse: an addict who can get clean needles isn't going to pass HIV or hepatitis on to other people (including people who aren't using heroin), and believing that they're going to die of AIDS or hepatitis makes it less likely that someone will stop using drugs.

Maybe where you are there's an age restriction for syringes, rather than the old prescription-only rules.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1593 on: September 14, 2013, 05:16:23 PM »
Even if you had shown your ID I can't see a serious pharmacy/pharmacist that would then say "oh sure, since that stranger (that made it known didn't know you but still) showed her ID (to have you back off) I'm going to sell you this medical drug/device (that I wasn't going to because I know you're not old enought or shouldn't have it in your current state)".  ::)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1594 on: September 14, 2013, 09:18:29 PM »
 Some pharmacy chains seem to have that policy only in certain stores.  I could drive to my nearest Walgreens, say I needed insulin needles of a certain kind, they take my card, I take the needles, and we're done.  No ID or prescription required. 

But at the Walgreens nearest to DD1, in a rather seedy part of Baltimore, they tell me that I have to buy my insulin from them before they will sell me needles.  I explain that this is for my cat and that because cats can't use human insulin, I have to buy it from my vet.  Because I did buy Willow's first box of needles with a prescription, I know that she is in their system.  I ask them to look in their computer for Willow's records, but the clerk is adamant.  No insulin, no needles.  She claims that this is how all of their pharmacies work, and have for years.

So okay, Walgreens doesn't want my business anymore.  I came home, went to Walmart instead, and walked out with a box of needles, no questions asked -- and CHEAPER than Walgreens.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1595 on: September 15, 2013, 02:06:36 AM »
Some pharmacy chains seem to have that policy only in certain stores.  I could drive to my nearest Walgreens, say I needed insulin needles of a certain kind, they take my card, I take the needles, and we're done.  No ID or prescription required. 

But at the Walgreens nearest to DD1, in a rather seedy part of Baltimore, they tell me that I have to buy my insulin from them before they will sell me needles.  I explain that this is for my cat and that because cats can't use human insulin, I have to buy it from my vet.  Because I did buy Willow's first box of needles with a prescription, I know that she is in their system.  I ask them to look in their computer for Willow's records, but the clerk is adamant.  No insulin, no needles.  She claims that this is how all of their pharmacies work, and have for years.

So okay, Walgreens doesn't want my business anymore.  I came home, went to Walmart instead, and walked out with a box of needles, no questions asked -- and CHEAPER than Walgreens.


In defense of that Walgreens clerk, I also live in Baltimore and there are a LOT of people who are addicted to various forms of drugs that use needles to get high.  It may be a policy put in place and okayed by the powers that be for certain stores in certain areas.  It sounds like most of the people who need needles try to use the diabeetus excuse and that store and others have caught onto it and stopped it. Of course that means that innocent people like you get caught up in it.   My preferred walgreens is just over the Baltimore county line and I've gotten needles for my Imitrex with no problem

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1596 on: September 15, 2013, 08:37:17 AM »
I could see the needle thing being a local policy if junkies have a tendency to shoot up there on the property and leave needles behind - probably not as much an issue with stores which are in nicer areas, but I can see a store with a dark alley behind it deciding they're sick of financing their own biohazard litter.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1597 on: September 15, 2013, 09:40:52 AM »
For what it's worth, this is a CVS across the street from a major university campus (and directly across from the university health clinic that sends all its prescriptions to that location by default) in a reasonably nice area of town. (The other one he appeared to be stalking toward is identical in demographics but about a quarter-mile from the student clinic.)
Perhaps there are a lot of student junkies (wouldn't SHOCK me), but I think he was just someone they'd seen around before, trying the same scheme.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1598 on: September 17, 2013, 05:25:31 PM »
Just got an email entitled "SAVE BIG ON CARS IN <CITY>!"

Yeah, they couldn't even bother to stick my city name in the spam header?  No thanks  :o

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1599 on: September 17, 2013, 06:29:46 PM »
Just got an email entitled "SAVE BIG ON CARS IN <CITY>!"

Yeah, they couldn't even bother to stick my city name in the spam header?  No thanks  :o

I mean what if you wanted to save big in <TOWN> or <VILLAGE>.  How rude :)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1600 on: September 17, 2013, 08:48:16 PM »
The thread about insulin needles reminded me of the time the pharmacist thought I was trying to scam the pharmacy.

Background:  We had a big, orange male cat who although he had been fixed, decided to start spraying.  After trying multiple techniques and medications (this was years before Feliway), the vet finally figured out that a very, very small dose of Valium once a day, stopped the spraying.

So, I went to the pharmacy with a prescription for our cat Edgar.  The pharmacist took the prescription and said he needed more information and I told him okay.

He asked for his full name.  I remember thinking that was kind of silly, but assumed their system needed a middle name.  The cat had been named after Edgar Allan Poe, so I told him that his first name was Edgar and his middle name Allan (with the last name being my last name).

Next I was asked for a date of birth.  I told him that I had no idea.  The pharmacist was puzzled and asked me again for the date of birth or for at least his age.  I said that I thought he was around 11 years old.

The pharmacist then said:  "What kind of a mother doesn't know the date of birth and age of her OWN KID???

I started laughing and said:  "He's a cat and I have no idea what his birthday or age is because he was a stray who walked into our garage 10 plus years ago.

Pharmacist was confused and I told him to look at the written prescription, because it was from our vet, not from a physician.  He (pharmacist) did and then apologized, because he had been sure I'd been trying to scam them for Valium.

I told him, no, we were just trying to keep the cat from spraying.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1601 on: September 18, 2013, 11:10:30 AM »
HAHAHAHA.  My cat was on Prozac, so I can identify.

Now I'm getting robocalls from a super chipper broad from "Kohl's".  uh-huh.


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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1602 on: September 18, 2013, 12:54:47 PM »
File under "good try, buddy - or maybe not":

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Gee, if I can't receive new mail, how did I get one from you, him? ???
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1603 on: September 18, 2013, 01:12:29 PM »
File under "good try, buddy - or maybe not":

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Gee, if I can't receive new mail, how did I get one from you, him? ???
I get these about every other month at work. The scammers don't even have the sense to try and hide their email address -- which would have to be [firstinitiallastname]@[university].edu to even be close to legitimate and nothing around here is signed "System Administrator," there is always a name. The crazy thing is that there are people that fall for this.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1604 on: September 18, 2013, 01:30:03 PM »
Years ago when we did have stricter size limits on our email accounts at work, we did get automated messages if the quota was exceeded, but the solution was (is) always to delete old messages, not click on mysterious links for "revalidation."

Another one from work that turned out to be legit but was a Bad Idea - the IT department rolled out some new security alert features and didn't issue any widespread news about them.  Instead, people found out when malware-looking popups appeared in the lower right corner asking the user to confirm they read the test message by, you guessed it, clicking a mysterious link.  I don't know what the compliance rate was but it was days before IT let the general user population know it was a real thing.  We take annual training on information security and phishing and get regular reminders throughout the year, and yet IT doesn't have the foresight to think hey, our process looks exactly like what we tell people to ignore/avoid??