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Shalamar

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1665 on: September 23, 2013, 01:12:53 PM »
One of my IRL friends posted on FB the other day about seeing a teenage girl crying on the phone to her mother about how her boyfriend had left her and she didn't have enough money to buy a bus ticket home and she was going to miss her baby sister's birthday and she didn't have enough money for a present and WAHHHH. My friend proudly said that she'd bought the girl a bus ticket and took her to the Dollar Store to buy birthday presents. She got a lot of "you're so awesome!" and "you give me hope for humanity" comments. I was dying to comment "Am I the only one here whose instincts are screaming 'SCAM SCAM SCAM'?".

Funnily enough, around that same time period, I passed a girl on the street who was wailing "MOMMMMM, I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DOOOOO!" into her cellphone. I'm wondering if it was the same one, and if so, whether she wails the same thing every time she sees a potential mark. (For the record, my SCAM-dar went off big-time, so I didn't even slow down.)

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« Reply #1666 on: September 23, 2013, 01:37:51 PM »
The change thing reminded me of a few issues I've had with cabs in the past before paying with a card was so prevalent.  Lets say I had to take a cab to deliver something to a partner agency across town.  I'd hop in a cab and when I get to my destination, the fare was, say $7.  All I had is the $20 I was able to get from the ATM before I left.  Lo and behold, the driver didn't have change.  And so began the stand off.  I can not give a driver a $13 tip on a $7 fare, as he clearly expected me to do.  Eventually, the driver would go find another driver from the same company and make change for me.   It was very irritating.  Now I just use my card.

I understand they probably get lots of 20s but I would also assume they go back to dispatch from time to time to make change.  Or I just don't understand how the whole thing works.

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« Reply #1667 on: September 23, 2013, 01:57:50 PM »
I think business people such as cab drivers should be prepared for twenties. Anything bigger than that is iffy.

For some reason, when I work the church rummage sale, the first person every year is buying $2 with a $100 bill. It's not even that easy to *get* $100 bills in Canada.

I suspect at least a few cab drivers, and rummage sale purchasers, expect you to "let it go." Give the driver his $13 tip, and give the person at the sale the $2 for free, because hey, it's just two bucks, right?
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1668 on: September 23, 2013, 02:08:31 PM »
The two people who tried to buy a $2 items with $100 bill.  (This may not be a scam but I am still not taking it)

There seems to be a contingent of people who carry $100 bills around for the express purpose of using them to pay for small purchases or debts. We get them at the library, paying their $2 fine. When we don't have enough to break it and I ask them if they have anything smaller, at least half the time they'll say, "I just came from the bank, that's all I have."

You know what banks are good at? Giving you five twenties instead of a hundred. All you have to do is ask. But no, it's better to not have to carry the weight of four extra bills all the way from the bank to the library, or the yard sale, or the girl scout cookie table.

And at my CU, they will ASK how I want my $$, if I'm getting a larger amount and not at the ATM. So there's really no excuse. I got cash back at the grocery store yesterday, and the cashier was very apologetic when she told me she had to give me 5's and 10's, for my $50, rather than 20's as she didn't have any. I told her I actually preferred that, so not to worry!

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1669 on: September 23, 2013, 02:20:04 PM »
So far I've only had one cab driver pull the "no change for a $20" routine - my friend and I had a cab fare of $42 and between us we had three twenties.  Since the cabbie had earlier refused to turn down or change the radio station (he was blaring music we didn't want to listen to), we weren't inclined to tip him more than a few bucks to begin with.

The plan was for me to wait at the cab while my friend ran up to get some small bills from her apartment, but luckily (?) a couple showed up wanting a ride and the cabbie settled for taking $40 and the new customers rather than wait and lose the next mark fare.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1670 on: September 23, 2013, 04:14:14 PM »
The two people who tried to buy a $2 items with $100 bill.  (This may not be a scam but I am still not taking it)

There seems to be a contingent of people who carry $100 bills around for the express purpose of using them to pay for small purchases or debts. We get them at the library, paying their $2 fine. When we don't have enough to break it and I ask them if they have anything smaller, at least half the time they'll say, "I just came from the bank, that's all I have."

You know what banks are good at? Giving you five twenties instead of a hundred. All you have to do is ask. But no, it's better to not have to carry the weight of four extra bills all the way from the bank to the library, or the yard sale, or the girl scout cookie table.

It always seemed to me that they were hoping that by pulling out the 50 dollar bill or the hundred dollar bill to pay for a .15 cent copy that you would say "Oh, it's not worth trying to make the change.  Have it for free."  When we tell them "no breaking of fifties and hundreds" we get "Really, you're going to be all hard a** over fifteen cents?"  "Really, you have the money to pay for the measely fifteen cent copy, but you won't bother to break it down?"

I know I have told this story before here, but I do recall one dreadful patron who never had change to pay for his fines.  He would hand you a one hundred dollar bill even though he had a fistful of dollars.  One day he started telling me he didn't have anything smaller (despite having a wad of ones in his hand) and another patron leaned over to him and told him in not so ehell approved language to give me a one and get out before he got hurt.

The lengths people will go to to feel they are putting one over on "the man".

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1671 on: September 23, 2013, 07:59:14 PM »
The two people who tried to buy a $2 items with $100 bill.  (This may not be a scam but I am still not taking it)

There seems to be a contingent of people who carry $100 bills around for the express purpose of using them to pay for small purchases or debts. We get them at the library, paying their $2 fine. When we don't have enough to break it and I ask them if they have anything smaller, at least half the time they'll say, "I just came from the bank, that's all I have."

You know what banks are good at? Giving you five twenties instead of a hundred. All you have to do is ask. But no, it's better to not have to carry the weight of four extra bills all the way from the bank to the library, or the yard sale, or the girl scout cookie table.

And at my CU, they will ASK how I want my $$, if I'm getting a larger amount and not at the ATM. So there's really no excuse. I got cash back at the grocery store yesterday, and the cashier was very apologetic when she told me she had to give me 5's and 10's, for my $50, rather than 20's as she didn't have any. I told her I actually preferred that, so not to worry!

Back in my tellering days, I ALWAYS asked how folks wanted their money, unless they were regulars and I already knew.  In general, men wanted big bills, women smaller ones.  I formulated the theory that men preferred the big bills so their wallets weren't too thick to sit on.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1672 on: September 23, 2013, 08:11:25 PM »
The two people who tried to buy a $2 items with $100 bill.  (This may not be a scam but I am still not taking it)

There seems to be a contingent of people who carry $100 bills around for the express purpose of using them to pay for small purchases or debts. We get them at the library, paying their $2 fine. When we don't have enough to break it and I ask them if they have anything smaller, at least half the time they'll say, "I just came from the bank, that's all I have."

You know what banks are good at? Giving you five twenties instead of a hundred. All you have to do is ask. But no, it's better to not have to carry the weight of four extra bills all the way from the bank to the library, or the yard sale, or the girl scout cookie table.

My bank's tellers love to foist $100s on me. Usually at the drive through lane, then they'll just keep saying "Have a Nice Day!" every time i push the call button, as people honk at me from behind.

Know what does a great job of breaking one without any problems/whining/angst?(Not that someone at a yard sale not wanting to break a hundred is whining or angsty, just customer service people who throw a big fit if you ask them to make change for you.) Self check outs at the grocery store. I go buy a soda with a C note and get my small change money, usually in tens for some reason. (I swear, I haven't gotten a twenty from a self check out in over a year.)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1673 on: September 23, 2013, 08:26:54 PM »
Remember the disabled "tour guides"? Now disabled people don't get to go to the front of the line thanks to those trying to scam the system.

http://smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/disneyland-cracks-down-on-queue-jumpers-using-disabled-20130924-2uazq.html


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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1674 on: September 23, 2013, 09:09:38 PM »
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Back in my tellering days, I ALWAYS asked how folks wanted their money, unless they were regulars and I already knew.  In general, men wanted big bills, women smaller ones.  I formulated the theory that men preferred the big bills so their wallets weren't too thick to sit on.

Maybe it's just a "guy" thing.  At our Sept pack meeting we had to collect dues for the year - $40 per scout.  I am the treasurer.  All moms paid with a check or exact change.  Three dads paid with a $100 and two with a $50.  After the first $100 I had no more change.  I don't know what they think.  They had to wait until others had paid to get 3 $20s back.  OY!
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1675 on: September 23, 2013, 10:16:32 PM »
Dear Scammer,
I don't give money to people who ask me for money unless I know where it's going. But even if I did, you were standing outside my car, waiting for me to get out:o *cue cabbage mentally running away screaming*

I think I was smart in taking my laptop and my purse with me when I went in to Wal-Mart. Also, the fact that you got in front of me to ask didn't make me feel any more comfortable, nor did the woman hanging about two feet behind you at your every move.

Also, dear lady who looked old enough to be my grandma,
Your ruse to turn in the aforementioned panhandler who was bothering everyone in the parking lot was awesome. You even pretended like you were bringing out a bag you'd accidentally left when you really alerted the employees to him. I wish I'd been smart or brave enough to do the same, or at least just say something.




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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1676 on: September 23, 2013, 10:22:22 PM »
I know I have told this story before here, but I do recall one dreadful patron who never had change to pay for his fines.  He would hand you a one hundred dollar bill even though he had a fistful of dollars.  One day he started telling me he didn't have anything smaller (despite having a wad of ones in his hand) and another patron leaned over to him and told him in not so ehell approved language to give me a one and get out before he got hurt.

OK, I have officially crossed over to the dark side.  I'd be so tempted to take the guy's hundred dollar bill, and say something "ok, I'll put this on your account."  And then make not a single move toward giving change.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1677 on: September 24, 2013, 02:14:12 PM »
Continuing the change subject.

When we are running an event that takes money, DH and I always go to our CU and take out $100 for change in 5 and 1 dollar bills. If people show up and want to spend denominations greater than 20 on a 1 or 2 dollar item, we ask them to check back with us after an hour or so.
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« Reply #1678 on: September 24, 2013, 02:34:51 PM »
Several years ago, in a small town close to where I live, someone went to a local fast food place drive thru, paid with a $200 bill (yes, they don't exist).  The not so smart person at the drive thru accepted the bill and gave them the change--and since the person passing the bill only bought a small drink or something, was almost the whole $200 in change.  ::)

I can't remember if the scammer got caught or not, but it made the national news for a while, just another joke for the late night talk shows--see people in KY really are that stupid.  thanks.  :(

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« Reply #1679 on: September 24, 2013, 03:40:04 PM »
Remember the disabled "tour guides"? Now disabled people don't get to go to the front of the line thanks to those trying to scam the system.

http://smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/disneyland-cracks-down-on-queue-jumpers-using-disabled-20130924-2uazq.html

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