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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1710 on: September 29, 2013, 12:57:15 PM »
I bought my DD a three ring binder a while back, anything she really wants to keep goes into it--surprisingly, she's pickier about what's "good" than I am, and a lot of her stuff gets thrown out regularly. We do have enough that someday she can look back with nostalgia and see her own improvements over time.

That's kind of what we did too, except we just used a shirt sized box.  I would save everything for about a month and then we could go through their stuff together and they got to choose one thing and I would choose one thing and all the rest were thrown away.  At the end of the school year we placed all the remaining pictures/work into a big manila envelope marked with that year and the envelopes were placed in their big treasure boxes. 

They never saw the content of those bigger boxes until they moved out (after college) and the boxes went with them.  They reported that they really got a kick out of going back in time and seeing their "best" from Kindergarten through high school.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1711 on: September 29, 2013, 08:50:16 PM »
My kids cleaned their room today.  I discovered a *ton* of drawings that went in the trash.  So I guess they didn't mind throwing out their own stuff once they were done with it.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1712 on: September 29, 2013, 09:07:31 PM »
The two people who tried to buy a $2 items with $100 bill.  (This may not be a scam but I am still not taking it)

There seems to be a contingent of people who carry $100 bills around for the express purpose of using them to pay for small purchases or debts. We get them at the library, paying their $2 fine. When we don't have enough to break it and I ask them if they have anything smaller, at least half the time they'll say, "I just came from the bank, that's all I have."

You know what banks are good at? Giving you five twenties instead of a hundred. All you have to do is ask. But no, it's better to not have to carry the weight of four extra bills all the way from the bank to the library, or the yard sale, or the girl scout cookie table.

My bank's tellers love to foist $100s on me. Usually at the drive through lane, then they'll just keep saying "Have a Nice Day!" every time i push the call button, as people honk at me from behind.

Know what does a great job of breaking one without any problems/whining/angst?(Not that someone at a yard sale not wanting to break a hundred is whining or angsty, just customer service people who throw a big fit if you ask them to make change for you.) Self check outs at the grocery store. I go buy a soda with a C note and get my small change money, usually in tens for some reason. (I swear, I haven't gotten a twenty from a self check out in over a year.)

Its not always a scam but when it is it works like this....

I'll have one coffee
that will be $2.50
Here you go ($100)
thank you here's your change ..hands over 97.50 (register still open)
simultaneously   Oh I have a $5 can I have my $100 back
sure hand back $100 and $2.50

There is a way to continue after this point I don't know it,  people have scammed cashiers for hundreds in single transactions.


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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1714 on: September 29, 2013, 09:53:37 PM »
So, I take it no one on here has ever played "The perfect murder". It's a great game. All hypothetical of course.
The alternative (and slightly less macabre) is the "How to plan the perfect robbery."

As a child I've played "how to rob the bank"  and as an adult "how to dispose of the body."

A spin off thread may be in order

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1715 on: September 30, 2013, 06:20:41 AM »
..Or maybe she is going for the 'dress for the job you want' approach

Or she just got fired and decided to pick up some change on the way home.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1716 on: September 30, 2013, 02:15:35 PM »
For stores, many returns aren't so happy

It's a news article about
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Many merchants have long lived by the mantra that the customer is always right, adopting liberal return policies in hopes of winning the loyalty of free-spending shoppers. But with a recent increase in the wearing and subsequent return of expensive clothes - a practice merchants call wardrobing - many retailers are taking a stronger stand against the industry's $8.8 billion-a-year return fraud problem.
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About 65 percent of retailers in a National Retail Federation survey reported experiencing wardrobing last year, up from 61 percent in 2011. The surveyed merchants suspected 3.3 percent of their total returns in 2012 were fraudulent.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1717 on: September 30, 2013, 07:36:37 PM »
For stores, many returns aren't so happy

It's a news article about
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Many merchants have long lived by the mantra that the customer is always right, adopting liberal return policies in hopes of winning the loyalty of free-spending shoppers. But with a recent increase in the wearing and subsequent return of expensive clothes - a practice merchants call wardrobing - many retailers are taking a stronger stand against the industry's $8.8 billion-a-year return fraud problem.
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About 65 percent of retailers in a National Retail Federation survey reported experiencing wardrobing last year, up from 61 percent in 2011. The surveyed merchants suspected 3.3 percent of their total returns in 2012 were fraudulent.

I read these articles and wonder whether I am a nervous Nellie, or these people are foolishly arrogant. So you buy a $$$$ dress you can't afford at all and plan to return it. What if someone spills a drink on it? What if you drop a greasy hors d'oeuvre down the front of it? What if some drunken idiot that you've invited to your Super Bowl party kicks over that $5000 big screen tv you're going to return tomorrow and chips the casing or worse? I just couldn't do it.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1718 on: September 30, 2013, 07:47:54 PM »
For stores, many returns aren't so happy

It's a news article about
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Many merchants have long lived by the mantra that the customer is always right, adopting liberal return policies in hopes of winning the loyalty of free-spending shoppers. But with a recent increase in the wearing and subsequent return of expensive clothes - a practice merchants call wardrobing - many retailers are taking a stronger stand against the industry's $8.8 billion-a-year return fraud problem.
[snip[

About 65 percent of retailers in a National Retail Federation survey reported experiencing wardrobing last year, up from 61 percent in 2011. The surveyed merchants suspected 3.3 percent of their total returns in 2012 were fraudulent.

I read these articles and wonder whether I am a nervous Nellie, or these people are foolishly arrogant. So you buy a $$$$ dress you can't afford at all and plan to return it. What if someone spills a drink on it? What if you drop a greasy hors d'oeuvre down the front of it? What if some drunken idiot that you've invited to your Super Bowl party kicks over that $5000 big screen tv you're going to return tomorrow and chips the casing or worse? I just couldn't do it.

You would lie and say you bought it that way and didn't notice it was stained/chipped/wrecked until you got home. It is actually less suspicious to return a broken product than one that is perfectly fine.

Having said that, the customer service desk isn't always fooled. They are required to take back the product, they aren't required to believe that a TV with nacho stains and footprints got that way in shipping. :P ;D
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1719 on: September 30, 2013, 07:56:30 PM »
For stores, many returns aren't so happy

It's a news article about
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Many merchants have long lived by the mantra that the customer is always right, adopting liberal return policies in hopes of winning the loyalty of free-spending shoppers. But with a recent increase in the wearing and subsequent return of expensive clothes - a practice merchants call wardrobing - many retailers are taking a stronger stand against the industry's $8.8 billion-a-year return fraud problem.
[snip[

About 65 percent of retailers in a National Retail Federation survey reported experiencing wardrobing last year, up from 61 percent in 2011. The surveyed merchants suspected 3.3 percent of their total returns in 2012 were fraudulent.

I read these articles and wonder whether I am a nervous Nellie, or these people are foolishly arrogant. So you buy a $$$$ dress you can't afford at all and plan to return it. What if someone spills a drink on it? What if you drop a greasy hors d'oeuvre down the front of it? What if some drunken idiot that you've invited to your Super Bowl party kicks over that $5000 big screen tv you're going to return tomorrow and chips the casing or worse? I just couldn't do it.

You would lie and say you bought it that way and didn't notice it was stained/chipped/wrecked until you got home. It is actually less suspicious to return a broken product than one that is perfectly fine.

Having said that, the customer service desk isn't always fooled. They are required to take back the product, they aren't required to believe that a TV with nacho stains and footprints got that way in shipping. :P ;D

I swear I'd crack. It seems such a basic skill, since I know teenagers try to do it to me all the time, but to stand there and bald-facedly tell a lie to someone who must KNOW you are lying, and you know they know, is beyond me. OTOH I have had students do something literally right in front of me -knowing I was there - and then deny doing it with the face of an angel so I know people can do it. I just couldn't do it.

Then again, maybe it's my inherent clumsiness and slobbiness, because there's no way that dress would be going back clean. Or maybe it's just my life long policy of "Don't gamble anything you aren't prepared to lose".
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1720 on: September 30, 2013, 08:04:38 PM »
On the flip side of that, you can be honest about a product being damaged and the shop can refuse to believe it/blame you. I bought a CD years ago that didn't work so I swapped it for another, only to realise that the second disc also didn't work had a massive damaged area on it (which I hadn't thought to look for the first time). I took it back and was accused of causing the damage. I asked them to check the other copies of the same CD - only to find that they were ALL damaged. I got my refund, a free copy of the CD once they had one and a very sincere apology.

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« Reply #1721 on: September 30, 2013, 10:27:19 PM »
Back in the 1950s, my Mom was an interior decorator for Famed Department Store That No Longer Exists.  She used to tell us the tale of a very wealthy lady who would hire Mom to redecorate "for the season" then suddenly return every piece of furniture, ever painting, rug and slipcover because "We've thought it over and we don't like it."

Because she was wealthy, she got away with it.  Until Mom and the guys who helped her put together the rooms started noting clues.  Mrs. Wealthy Lady was redecorating for parties she had about four times a year.  An article would appear in the society columns that Mrs. Wealthy was going to be hosting Mr. and Mrs. Celebrity Couple for three weeks and Mrs. Wealthy would turn up at the store asking for a "really luxurious seasonal redo."  Which all came back as soon as Mrs. and Mrs. Celebrity had moved on.

Mrs. Wealthy was stunned when she came in to request another overhaul and was met in the decorating department by the store owner/CEO/Very Scary Lady and was told to go bother another lesser known store that might enjoy wasting its time on her. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1722 on: September 30, 2013, 11:51:02 PM »
Slartibartfast, I am not sure how to word this without coming across as critical of your parental styles, but you throw away your daughter's artwork? That makes my heart hurt. Please tell me that you do keep some of it.

I keep some of my daughter's but they bring home a color sheet everyday for almost every subject.  I don't have anywhere to keep all of it.  I just keep the big project or the ones I can tell she really worked on.  the rest gets tossed.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1723 on: October 01, 2013, 08:35:36 AM »
I swear I'd crack. It seems such a basic skill, since I know teenagers try to do it to me all the time, but to stand there and bald-facedly tell a lie to someone who must KNOW you are lying, and you know they know, is beyond me. OTOH I have had students do something literally right in front of me -knowing I was there - and then deny doing it with the face of an angel so I know people can do it. I just couldn't do it.

Then again, maybe it's my inherent clumsiness and slobbiness, because there's no way that dress would be going back clean. Or maybe it's just my life long policy of "Don't gamble anything you aren't prepared to lose".

I find it embarrassing to return things while I'm telling the truth, if I feel I might be challenged.

I remember one time as a teen, my bf's parents asked us to return a chicken that they had bought, and discovered smelt funny. We were convinced we would be quizzed about how it had been stored, and when it had been purchased. Instead, the conversation went like this:

Us (approaching the service desk like Oliver Twist about to ask for more gruel): Ummm, we have this chicken that was bought here, and it smells off. Could we return it? See? (holding out the chicken in a plastic bag) You can smell it if you want. It's definitely off.

Service clerk: EWWWWWWW! No, I'm not going to smell it, take the money and go!
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1724 on: October 01, 2013, 10:09:40 AM »
Beware of phishing emails to your work email account that actually set appointments in your email client!

Also, everyone where I work (all 5000+ people) received this today:

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Your two incoming mails were placed on pending status due to the recent upgrade in our database,


In order to receive the messages kindly click HERE Bad link

Login with your correct Webmail information's and wait for responds from our data base service.
We apologize for any inconvenience and do appreciate your understanding.


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