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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1830 on: October 21, 2013, 01:23:32 PM »
Oh, as a Scout volunteer and leader, the first story burned me and the second? What kind of role model is he?

I am certain his membership in the organization will be revoked and he will be on permanent ban.

Some people may notice that I get worked up a bit about safety in the workplace, and in general.

So, let me say that this man's position, that he knocked over the rock because of safety concerns, is absolutely ridiculous>:( What next, he shoots all the animals in the park because they might somehow attack a camper at some point? He chops down redwoods because they might fall on someone?

Heh, heh.  Seriously, the rock had been there for 20 million years without incident.  Suddenly HE has to protect everyone?  Obvious deflection from his serious vandalism.

Hope they throw the book at him, then prosecute for insurance fraud.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1831 on: October 21, 2013, 06:38:47 PM »
My OH fell for one of those pop up scam ads on the internet. The ones that say, "This could save you thousands! Are you SURE you want to leave this page?" It cost a hundred dollars (a very large chunk of our limited budget) and was supposed to be a series of books and dvds on how to DIY build and convert your house to solar.  ::) I had to consult an electrician friend to instruct OH on exactly why this was not possible. OH has now agreed that he is not to purchase ANYTHING off the internet without consulting me first  :P.
OH almost fell for a phone scam years ago. A lady rang with one of those "You've won a free holiday!" deals. Unfortunately I was at work when she rang. Fortunately I was the only one of us with a credit card and I had it in my possession at the time. OH kept her on the phone for half an hour until I got home. He handed me the phone very excitedly, telling me all about how we were going to Vegas and all I had to do was to give over my credit card details to confirm my identity! I was like, hold on a second. I had a very short conversation with the lady and hung up on her while she was in mid rant about how we'd wasted HER time  ???. OH half took some convincing before he'd believe me on that one too. He's quite gullible, poor dear....

I'm glad you posted that. I could definitely see someone (cough-cough) trying that one...  :-[
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1832 on: October 21, 2013, 09:14:18 PM »
Oh, as a Scout volunteer and leader, the first story burned me and the second? What kind of role model is he?

I am certain his membership in the organization will be revoked and he will be on permanent ban.

Some people may notice that I get worked up a bit about safety in the workplace, and in general.

So, let me say that this man's position, that he knocked over the rock because of safety concerns, is absolutely ridiculous>:( What next, he shoots all the animals in the park because they might somehow attack a camper at some point? He chops down redwoods because they might fall on someone?

Heh, heh.  Seriously, the rock had been there for 20 million years without incident.  Suddenly HE has to protect everyone?  Obvious deflection from his serious vandalism.

Hope they throw the book at him, then prosecute for insurance fraud.

Seriously - the rock formation that tourists travel miles and miles and miles to see (even from other countries?) is such a safety hazard that HE knocks it down to save lives?  With the help of another "leader"? 

Yeah, right, pull the other one, it's got bells on it...

At best, he had low blood sugar so badly that his brain had quit working - otherwise, chemicals not appropriate to a Scout leader were in his blood stream...because nobody would hand over a dozen boys to such an obvious idiot!  Would they? 

Snarky and Evil are not happy with him - but I've locked up the blazer & the nerve disruptor - don't want any Boy Scouts or million year old landmark rock formations caught in the cross fire by accident....
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1833 on: October 21, 2013, 09:48:40 PM »
Oh, as a Scout volunteer and leader, the first story burned me and the second? What kind of role model is he?

I am certain his membership in the organization will be revoked and he will be on permanent ban.

Some people may notice that I get worked up a bit about safety in the workplace, and in general.

So, let me say that this man's position, that he knocked over the rock because of safety concerns, is absolutely ridiculous>:( What next, he shoots all the animals in the park because they might somehow attack a camper at some point? He chops down redwoods because they might fall on someone?

Heh, heh.  Seriously, the rock had been there for 20 million years without incident.  Suddenly HE has to protect everyone?  Obvious deflection from his serious vandalism.

Hope they throw the book at him, then prosecute for insurance fraud.

Seriously - the rock formation that tourists travel miles and miles and miles to see (even from other countries?) is such a safety hazard that HE knocks it down to save lives?  With the help of another "leader"? 

Yeah, right, pull the other one, it's got bells on it...

At best, he had low blood sugar so badly that his brain had quit working - otherwise, chemicals not appropriate to a Scout leader were in his blood stream...because nobody would hand over a dozen boys to such an obvious idiot!  Would they? 

Snarky and Evil are not happy with him - but I've locked up the blazer & the nerve disruptor - don't want any Boy Scouts or million year old landmark rock formations caught in the cross fire by accident....

Ummm you left the flamethrower in the corner...better put that away too :)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1834 on: October 22, 2013, 12:27:54 AM »
Oh, as a Scout volunteer and leader, the first story burned me and the second? What kind of role model is he?

I am certain his membership in the organization will be revoked and he will be on permanent ban.

Some people may notice that I get worked up a bit about safety in the workplace, and in general.

So, let me say that this man's position, that he knocked over the rock because of safety concerns, is absolutely ridiculous>:( What next, he shoots all the animals in the park because they might somehow attack a camper at some point? He chops down redwoods because they might fall on someone?

Heh, heh.  Seriously, the rock had been there for 20 million years without incident.  Suddenly HE has to protect everyone?  Obvious deflection from his serious vandalism.

Hope they throw the book at him, then prosecute for insurance fraud.

Seriously - the rock formation that tourists travel miles and miles and miles to see (even from other countries?) is such a safety hazard that HE knocks it down to save lives?  With the help of another "leader"? 

Yeah, right, pull the other one, it's got bells on it...

At best, he had low blood sugar so badly that his brain had quit working - otherwise, chemicals not appropriate to a Scout leader were in his blood stream...because nobody would hand over a dozen boys to such an obvious idiot!  Would they? 

Snarky and Evil are not happy with him - but I've locked up the blazer & the nerve disruptor - don't want any Boy Scouts or million year old landmark rock formations caught in the cross fire by accident....

Ummm you left the flamethrower in the corner...better put that away too :)

She would, but he gets cranky when you wake him up.  ;)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1835 on: October 22, 2013, 07:46:59 AM »
Their membership in the Boy Scouts of America has been revoked permanently and they have been stripped of their positions in their troop.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1836 on: October 22, 2013, 08:23:12 AM »
Well it's finally happened to me, my debit card information has been stolen.  The only place it seems like they could have stolen the information from is PayPal.

I bought a computer on line from Ebay last week, I payed for it through Paypal, two days later and my checking account is wiped out.  Thankfully, it's a week before I get paid so they don't get too much, and I've already contacted one merchant and I'm getting my money back from them.  The thief bought a watch on line and was sending it a place in California that according to the merchant is used for forwarding items to other locations, probably overseas. 

They did have my debit card number, security code, phone number and billing address.  I was able to get a hold of my bank last night and cancel the card so they won't be able to make any more purchases.  All in all, it could have been a lot worse that what it is. I'm off to the bank in a few minutes to see about the other charges and hopefully get some more of my money back.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1837 on: October 22, 2013, 08:34:16 AM »
Oh, as a Scout volunteer and leader, the first story burned me and the second? What kind of role model is he?

I am certain his membership in the organization will be revoked and he will be on permanent ban.

Some people may notice that I get worked up a bit about safety in the workplace, and in general.

So, let me say that this man's position, that he knocked over the rock because of safety concerns, is
absolutely ridiculous>:( What next, he shoots all the animals in the park because they might somehow attack a camper at some point? He chops down redwoods because they might fall on someone?

Heh, heh.  Seriously, the rock had been there for 20 million years without incident.  Suddenly HE has to protect everyone?  Obvious deflection from his serious vandalism.

Hope they throw the book at him, then prosecute for insurance fraud.

The video clearly shows that it took him some time and effort to destroy the Goblin.

  Why would he be fearful for the safety of children visiting the place? It isn't as if the Goblin would squash a toddler who put a hand on it. 

This was mindless vandalism, pure and simple.  This guy has gotten himself into major trouble with both the federal government and the insurance company.  He deserves every penalty they can give
him. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1838 on: October 22, 2013, 08:51:08 AM »
Agreed.  He didn't do it to "protect" anyone. 

He did it to show off. He wanted to prove what a big, strong, hulk he is.  And the guys who giggled and danced are just as mindless, childish and idiotic as he is.

I guess he forgot that he was trying to convince the insurance company that he was 'disabled'. 

I hope they totally throw the book at him.  Both books!

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1839 on: October 22, 2013, 09:08:30 AM »
Well it's finally happened to me, my debit card information has been stolen.  The only place it seems like they could have stolen the information from is PayPal.

I bought a computer on line from Ebay last week, I payed for it through Paypal, two days later and my checking account is wiped out.  Thankfully, it's a week before I get payed so they don't get too much, and I've already contacted one merchant and I'm getting my money back from them.  The thief bought a watch on line and was sending it a place in California that according to the merchant is used for forwarding items to other locations, probably overseas. 

They did have my debit card number, security code, phone number and billing address.  I was able to get a hold of my bank last night and cancel the card so they won't be able to make any more purchases.  All in all, it could have been a lot worse that what it is. I'm off to the bank in a few minutes to see about the other charges and hopefully get some more of my money back.

Back in August, I get a phone call from my bank.  It was their fraud department asking me if I had made a $3 395 purchase of electronics from an overseas location.  Once I could breath again, I said "Heck no!!!!" We went through the last 5 days of transactions and found a bunch of little fishing ones ($1-$20) that went through then the big one.  They did not approve the big one (didn't have that much money in my account) and they refunded the little ones.  Took a few days to figure it out as my card was in my possession the whole time.  It was a certain pay as you go phone account (they have an airline too) that 7 days earlier I had a billing dispute with as I went to stop the account.  The people who I called in a certain country (funny, same country where electronics were ordered from) told me they would stop it, then double dipped the monthly payment the next day.  I called them to say they took 2 payments for a phone service I had cancelled and the jerk on the other end argued they did not (looking at my bank print out buddy boy) and that my payments had declined -no,  I saw what you did (I was watching my account due to me not trusting them) and then when I said I had proof he said it was never an automatic payment (yes it was, for 2 years).  The guy was very rude, called me a deadbeat  >:( said they would cancel my phone (I cancelled it moron!) and boom, that night fraud charges started coming through.  The woman at the bank said this is a problem with the foreign companies..she sees at least 2-3 cases a week of credit card fraud originating from the call centers.  I put a complaint in with the phone company, but they didn't care.  My bank took good care of me, cancelling my card and getting me a new one ASAP, refunding all fraudulent charges including the double dipped phone charge.  When the due date for the phone I no longer want came the next month, I get a phone call from their call center..a very rude man telling me that my payment did not go through, how was I paying for the bill this month, they were going to shut the phone off, I was responsible for paying blahblahblah.  I just started laughing.  I said "I cancelled it in the beginning of August, you shut it off, double billed me, then stole my bank card info for a shopping spree so if you call again,  I will have an attorney contact you all about the harassment" .  Payment date, if I still had phone service, is Thursday..let's see if they call.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1840 on: October 22, 2013, 09:13:19 AM »

At best, he had low blood sugar so badly that his brain had quit working - otherwise, chemicals not appropriate to a Scout leader were in his blood stream...because nobody would hand over a dozen boys to such an obvious idiot!  Would they? 


Oh, you'd be surprised...

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1841 on: October 22, 2013, 09:20:44 AM »

I had that happen to me once, but a different store! I was 8 or 9, and all I wanted for my birthday was Bon Jovi - New Jersey. Got it, tore it open, popped it in, and ... Scorpions (the album with Winds of Change). I was so disappointed, especially since the store didn't have any other copies of Bon Jovi in stock, so I had to get a different tape. Never did get that Bon Jovi album...

It's not too late.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/bon-jovi-new-jersey-cd

Sorry, just saw this. I actually have their Cross Roads album, so I have all the songs I want off New Jersey  ;) Still love Bon Jovi  ;D

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« Reply #1842 on: October 22, 2013, 09:40:37 AM »
My office just got a call from a person who sounded like he was in a very busy call center.  He didn't identify himself or the company he supposedly was working for.  Just launched into asking me to give him the make and model of the copier in our office.   ::)  Yeah, like I haven't heard that one before...

So, to have a little fun and see where this went, I asked why he needed to know that information.  He said he represented the Blahblahblah Publishing Co. who were rewriting the operating manual for our copier.  He wanted to verify which one we had to that they could send us a new one.  I put on my best "innocent, young woman who doesn't know any better" voice, and asked all kinds of circular questions, just to keep him on the phone and to stop him scamming someone else. 

He finally got to the point of almost yelling at me to just give him the make and model number, and I finally flatly said, "NO.  This is a scam."  He hung up on me.  :)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1843 on: October 22, 2013, 09:51:13 AM »
Well it's finally happened to me, my debit card information has been stolen.  The only place it seems like they could have stolen the information from is PayPal.

I bought a computer on line from Ebay last week, I payed for it through Paypal, two days later and my checking account is wiped out.  Thankfully, it's a week before I get payed so they don't get too much, and I've already contacted one merchant and I'm getting my money back from them.  The thief bought a watch on line and was sending it a place in California that according to the merchant is used for forwarding items to other locations, probably overseas. 

They did have my debit card number, security code, phone number and billing address.  I was able to get a hold of my bank last night and cancel the card so they won't be able to make any more purchases.  All in all, it could have been a lot worse that what it is. I'm off to the bank in a few minutes to see about the other charges and hopefully get some more of my money back.

A friend of mine got her Credit Card info hacked twice in 3 months. First was through an online merchant and meant she didn't have a working CC when we left for a 10 day holiday (she had received the new card but not the code, we had friend check her mail for it), second time the card info was copied in an ATM in another country A, she had to cancel the card mid-trip and it's her only one.
She was gripping that she had to jump through so many hoops* this second time around, I told her that the bank fraud department most likely flagged her account and that she should be happy that the law here means the bank has to reimburse her.

'Funny' thing is that this is the most on line and offline personal-info security conscious person I know, who shreds everything that has her name on it and so on. 

(*first time she only had to tell them which where the fraudulent charges, I think it was only one, second time she had to provide a bunch of info that the bank has outlined on their contract, so it's not them making it difficult, it's them doing their job.)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1844 on: October 22, 2013, 11:11:19 AM »
Their membership in the Boy Scouts of America has been revoked permanently and they have been stripped of their positions in their troop.
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