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#### AmethystAnne

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##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2475 on: March 30, 2014, 08:15:11 PM »
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When sitting with the grandkids, I tell them "we are not going to answer the phone - that's someone trying to sell us something."

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##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2476 on: March 30, 2014, 08:18:05 PM »
Well, I got rid of the land line phone.

I still get calls to my mobile, but can assign them to a silent ring tone or block them.
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#### Thipu1

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##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2477 on: March 31, 2014, 05:56:43 AM »
It's been a weird week for me. Friday when I got home I found I had an envelope in the mail with my address handwritten on it. Inside was a three-page handwritten letter, on looseleaf notebook paper, which seemed to be from someone in an evangelical religion, along with a bunch of related pamphlets. I guess I don't know exactly what they wanted, as I merely skimmed the letter then threw the whole thing away. I'm still amazed by the handwritten letter--imagine all that they sent out, all over the neighborhood.

We get these about once a year and it's always a little sad.  We don't think it's a scam because no money is ever requested.  We do think it's a sincere attempt to spread the word about the person's beliefs.

Still, it's sad because the letter is poorly phrased and the handwriting is the loopy sort favored by Tween-aged girls.
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#### jedikaiti

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##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2478 on: March 31, 2014, 01:49:50 PM »
I work for a university where I was previously a student, so I get all kinds of interesting spam and scams in my email - some targeting staff, but even more targeting students.

This is what I got over the weekend, from a nonsensically named gmail account:
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All classes on Monday (3/31) and Tuesday (4/1) have been canceled due to recent developments in the revealing of the truth about life and death.  All students are being granted extra time to review this important material.

The document in reference is rumored to have been submitted to The Truth Contest [URL REDACTED] by UNIVERSITY students.  Google "Truth Contest" if you prefer to not click on links in emails. On the website homepage, click the top entry, The Present.

This is much more important than class, so take these days off to seek and learn the truth of life to start anew after spring recess. All of your professors have been notified.

Sincerely,

UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT'S REAL NAME
President
UNIVERSITY
Office of the President

I hope nobody was dumb enough to fall for that.
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#### Louie_LI

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##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2479 on: March 31, 2014, 01:59:37 PM »
I came home today to find magnetic business cards for moving services on every door on our building and the one across.

At least they were magnetic. I'm tired of scraping off actual stickers!

#### Redneck Gravy

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« Reply #2480 on: March 31, 2014, 02:38:17 PM »
It was a cashiers (not personal) check for thousands of dollars so he trusted it and didn't make sure it cleared before mailing the merchandise.

A cashier's check is a check drawn on the bank itself.  So unless the check was forged, I don't understand how it could "bounce" unless the bank went under -- this is why people pay for cashier's check, for the absolute guarantee that it will be cashed.

Seen it happen also - it's a phony cashier's check, drawn on a phony bank ...

#### Redneck Gravy

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« Reply #2481 on: March 31, 2014, 03:20:41 PM »
I got a call over the weekend looking for Mickey Gravy about a past due balance on a credit card...

Well, hmm, Gravy is his last name I guess, but Mickey is my dog !

#### Katana_Geldar

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« Reply #2482 on: March 31, 2014, 03:36:10 PM »
It was a cashiers (not personal) check for thousands of dollars so he trusted it and didn't make sure it cleared before mailing the merchandise.

A cashier's check is a check drawn on the bank itself.  So unless the check was forged, I don't understand how it could "bounce" unless the bank went under -- this is why people pay for cashier's check, for the absolute guarantee that it will be cashed.

Seen it happen also - it's a phony cashier's check, drawn on a phony bank ...
I once banked my tax cheque from the Reserve Bank of Australia and the bank still waited three days. Wouldn't we have something to worry about if that cheque bounced?

#### gramma dishes

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##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2483 on: March 31, 2014, 07:07:14 PM »
I got a call over the weekend looking for Mickey Gravy about a past due balance on a credit card...

Well, hmm, Gravy is his last name I guess, but Mickey is my dog !

We warned you not to get Mickey his own credit card!!  Dogs are just so darned irresponsible with them.

#### Virg

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« Reply #2484 on: March 31, 2014, 07:43:07 PM »

"A cashier's check is a check drawn on the bank itself.  So unless the check was forged, I don't understand how it could "bounce" unless the bank went under -- this is why people pay for cashier's check, for the absolute guarantee that it will be cashed."

That's the scam, of course.  The check is a forgery.  It'll show the name of a real bank but since it's a fake, the bank will have no record of issue so they won't honor it, and most people aren't familiar enough with cashier's checks to spot a fake reliably.  PSA: if you receive a cashier's check for anything, treat it like any other check by depositing it and waiting for it to clear before acting on it, or call the bank it's drawn on and verify it.  It may be harder to forge a bank check than a personal check but it's still not that hard.

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#### snowfire

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« Reply #2485 on: March 31, 2014, 09:51:31 PM »
Just pulled out of my spam folder....

U.S Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control
(OFAC)U.S Treasury Department's
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20220

Attn Beneficiary;

This email is to notify you about the release of your outstanding payment which is truly $15.500.000.00 USD. The New Prime Minister ( UK) scheduled a time frame to settle all foreign debts which includes Contract/Inheritance/ Gambling/ Lottery(Sponsored by Microsoft and National Lottery) and other international loans.News had it that over the past,numerous individual (s) who happen to be impostors (claiming to be individuals, banks and organizations) are claiming to release numerous sums of fund via numerous ways. With the help of the (OFAC)U.S Treasury Department's and with the FBI we have noticed that people have being asked to pay outrageous amount of money by these impostors for the transfer of their funds to them. We want you to stop all communication that has to do with these fraudsters who have been requesting unreasonable sums of money from you to release your funds which they do not have access to. We have received a mandate and instructions from the (OFAC)U.S Treasury Department's to commence the immediate release of your funds through one of the following payment options stated below depending on your choice: 1. Payment via Automatic Teller Machine (ATM card): This is where you will be sent an Automatic Teller Machine card with Pin also known as ATM card (A Master Card would be issued). Upon receipt of your custom ATM card you will be allowed to withdraw$10,000 per day by default and you are given the option to transfer funds from your ATM card to your bank account.

2. Certified Cashiers Check or Bank Draft: In this case you will be sent a certified bank draft or check signed in your favor which you will deposit in any bank for it to be cleared within 3 to 5 working days at most depending on your bank.

3. Online Banking ( Bank To Bank Transfer) to enable you process this operation, $250 Dollars is Required for opening for an online banking operation, that will enable you get access to your account Online. Below are few list of tracking numbers you can track from FedEx and UPS website to confirm people like you whom have successfully received their payment safely. Name : Mrs. Jeannie Michael: FedEx Tracking Number: 794588016471 Name : Mrs. Vista Rayne Arnold: FedEx Tracking Number: 796925954101 You are advised to select one out of the three options on how you wish to receive your$15.500.000.00 USD, Your Online Banking Acess or ATM card or Check/Bank Draft will be shipped via Courier Shipping Company and would get to you within 2 working days at most.

For international shipping as stated by our company We had to sign contract with Courier for bulk shipping which makes the fees reduce from the actual $320.99 to$190.99 nothing more and no hidden fees of any sort.

You are advised to contact the Department's Officer responsible for the shipping of your Check or ATM card with the following information for shipping of your payment Check or ATM card.

Department's Officer: Mrs.Barbara Carroll
Email: ustreasurydeptofac@geordies.org really? Supposedly U.S. Gov't & a funky .org address???

And provide her with the following information:

Occupation:................
Home/Cell Phone:.................
Age.......................

The Department's Officer Barbara Carroll will provide you with instructions on how you are to make payment of the $190.99 only for the shipping of your ATM card or Cashiers Check. You are to adhere strictly to the instructions above for more information contact the Department's Officer. Remember that you are not paying any fees extra no matter what. Once again note that the actual Courier Retail Price:$320.99 Your Price (Because of our contract signed): is now $190.99 ($130.00 Savings!).

Thanks,
Cecelia M Lum

Sigh.  I'm not stupid, I'm not clicking and for $%^^*#@ sure I'm not sending money. #### artk2002 • Member • Posts: 13811 ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #2486 on: March 31, 2014, 10:00:16 PM » Just got a call from someone in an obvious boiler room (lots of chatter in the background.) Asking for Mrs.k2002 and saying that they were from the "US Department of Health Care." I suggested that he leave us alone. Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bow lines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. #### Slartibartfast • Member • Posts: 10770 ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #2487 on: March 31, 2014, 10:09:05 PM » DH was eager to tell me about a strange phone call we got this morning from "Computer Support" about viruses on our computer He was curious, so he played along - they walked him through checking something in the start menu, counting the number of stopped processes (which means absolutely nothing, honestly), and then tried to direct him to go to some website and download a remote-access program so they can "fix the computer remotely." Otherwise known as "install a keylogger and steal your bank passwords." DH thought this was so novel and hilarious - I didn't have the heart to tell him we probably get one of those a week Just as well he's a programmer and knew exactly what was going on . . . #### Elfmama • Member • Posts: 4595 • Derailing threads since 2001! ##### Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers « Reply #2488 on: March 31, 2014, 11:51:23 PM » I've see this several times: Quote Upon receipt of your custom ATM card you will be allowed to withdraw$10,000 per day by default and you are given the option to transfer funds from your ATM card to your bank account.
All the US ATMs that I've seen will let you withdraw about $300 per day max. I don't know how much money they're loaded with daily, but I'm pretty sure that dispensing$10,000 to one individual would drain one dry.
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« Reply #2489 on: April 01, 2014, 12:30:42 AM »
Elfmama wrote:

" I don't know how much money they're loaded with daily, but I'm pretty sure that dispensing $10,000 to one individual would drain one dry." A typical ATM can hold somewhere around a quarter million dollars fully loaded, although most aren't loaded with more than$150,000.  Still, one disbursal of ten grand wouldn't slow it down.  The cash limit is to minimize theft by fraudulent card use, mostly.

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