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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #480 on: February 14, 2013, 06:00:28 PM »
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #481 on: February 14, 2013, 09:39:16 PM »
Unique is a binary state, it either is or is not.

Maybe yes, maybe no. In an Aristotolean space, where the law of the excluded middle applies, you would be right. But if you apply fuzzy logic, it isn't a binary proposition. Many things that appear binary aren't really. Take "warm." It's either warm or it isn't, right?
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #482 on: February 14, 2013, 10:13:41 PM »
Unique is a binary state, it either is or is not.

Maybe yes, maybe no. In an Aristotolean space, where the law of the excluded middle applies, you would be right. But if you apply fuzzy logic, it isn't a binary proposition. Many things that appear binary aren't really. Take "warm." It's either warm or it isn't, right?

Warm as in 70 degrees, or as in 80 degrees?  But something can't be "slightly unique".  Unique means there's only one of it.  How can something be slightly one of a kind?
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #483 on: February 14, 2013, 10:34:32 PM »
"He's just a kid" - so he can do/say/be whereever and whatever he wants

"It's the kid's world"

"You're too old for that"

"Fluffy" - meaning fat


"YOLO" - usually in defense of some horribly rude behavior


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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #484 on: February 15, 2013, 01:03:45 AM »
This one is a term that is really useful to describe a specific behaviour, but is starting to become overused on certain blogs and forums I read..'Gaslighting'. It is supposed to mean a sort of psychological abuse or torment where one convinces the victim to doubt their perceptions and sanity. It's been discussed a lot more recently on some of the social justice and feminist sites I read.

But, rather like hobish's bullying example above (which I also really agree with) it's starting to be used in situations where it's not really accurate. I've seen it applied to situations where it really just seems that both people disagree and are perhaps having a heated argument. I've also seen it applied anytime someone calls someone else 'too sensitive'. They might be *wrong*, they might even be a jerk, but I think jumping to the conclusion that it's intentionally trying to wear down someone's defenses is not always warranted.

I think this sort of thing probably happens anytime a social issue starts getting recognized more--some people will begin applying it to all situations that could possibly be that thing.

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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #485 on: February 15, 2013, 03:53:35 AM »
Gaslighting refers to a movie.

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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #486 on: February 15, 2013, 03:55:16 AM »
Unique is a binary state, it either is or is not.

Maybe yes, maybe no. In an Aristotolean space, where the law of the excluded middle applies, you would be right. But if you apply fuzzy logic, it isn't a binary proposition. Many things that appear binary aren't really. Take "warm." It's either warm or it isn't, right?

Warm as in 70 degrees, or as in 80 degrees?  But something can't be "slightly unique".  Unique means there's only one of it.  How can something be slightly one of a kind?

Twins?  They aren't unique (there are two of them) but they ARE unique...?
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #487 on: February 15, 2013, 06:41:44 AM »
Gaslighting refers to a movie.

I caught that movie on tv once but couldn't bring myself to watch the whole thing, it was just too disturbing.  And well, I think it kind of depends. If it's just one instance with that one person saying "You're too sensitive!" then I wouldn't call it gaslighting, but if it's sort of an ongoing thing it would be a red flag in addition to other signs of emotional abuse.

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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #488 on: February 15, 2013, 07:38:10 AM »
Unique is a binary state, it either is or is not.

Maybe yes, maybe no. In an Aristotolean space, where the law of the excluded middle applies, you would be right. But if you apply fuzzy logic, it isn't a binary proposition. Many things that appear binary aren't really. Take "warm." It's either warm or it isn't, right?

Warm as in 70 degrees, or as in 80 degrees?  But something can't be "slightly unique".  Unique means there's only one of it.  How can something be slightly one of a kind?

I can take a random assortment of pixels on my computer screen and it would most definitely be unique.  I can then take the same assortment of pixels on an identical screen but change one pixel.  The image on the second screen would also be unique, but barely. 

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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #489 on: February 15, 2013, 08:17:40 AM »
Unique is a binary state, it either is or is not.

Maybe yes, maybe no. In an Aristotolean space, where the law of the excluded middle applies, you would be right. But if you apply fuzzy logic, it isn't a binary proposition. Many things that appear binary aren't really. Take "warm." It's either warm or it isn't, right?

Warm as in 70 degrees, or as in 80 degrees?  But something can't be "slightly unique".  Unique means there's only one of it.  How can something be slightly one of a kind?

Twins?  They aren't unique (there are two of them) but they ARE unique...?

Every person who's had different experiences than another and processed them internally will be unique.  :)
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #490 on: February 15, 2013, 08:18:51 AM »
Unique is a binary state, it either is or is not.

Maybe yes, maybe no. In an Aristotolean space, where the law of the excluded middle applies, you would be right. But if you apply fuzzy logic, it isn't a binary proposition. Many things that appear binary aren't really. Take "warm." It's either warm or it isn't, right?

Warm as in 70 degrees, or as in 80 degrees?  But something can't be "slightly unique".  Unique means there's only one of it.  How can something be slightly one of a kind?

I can take a random assortment of pixels on my computer screen and it would most definitely be unique.  I can then take the same assortment of pixels on an identical screen but change one pixel.  The image on the second screen would also be unique, but barely.

It would be different, but barely.  Unique does not merely mean different, it means there is literally nothing else exactly like it.
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #491 on: February 15, 2013, 12:35:32 PM »
Gaslighting refers to a movie.

Actually, it stems from a play, which was later made into a movie. Allyson's complaint stands, regardless.
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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #492 on: February 15, 2013, 02:40:46 PM »
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Actually, it stems from a play, which was later made into a movie. Allyson's complaint stands, regardless.

There are several versions of the movie out there.  I got one from Netflix a year or so ago to watch.  I must have gotten the wrong one, because I was bored and I couldn't understand what they were saying.  Is there a particular version of it that y'all would recommend?  I do want to see it - but not the one I saw.


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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #493 on: February 15, 2013, 02:44:10 PM »
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Actually, it stems from a play, which was later made into a movie. Allyson's complaint stands, regardless.

There are several versions of the movie out there.  I got one from Netflix a year or so ago to watch.  I must have gotten the wrong one, because I was bored and I couldn't understand what they were saying.  Is there a particular version of it that y'all would recommend?  I do want to see it - but not the one I saw.

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Re: "Trendy" expressions you're tired of hearing
« Reply #494 on: February 15, 2013, 08:22:30 PM »
Yep, good movie, too! I do think that it's a really useful term. I just think that, as often happens when something like this gains steam, it can be too broadly applied and as such lose impact.