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« Reply #150 on: January 16, 2013, 12:06:45 PM »
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It's a remix from Buffy and Twilight

I remember that!  I think I'd pay good money to see Buffy beat the tar out of Edward.

This doesn't really have anything to do with the topic, but I've seen clips of interviews with Rob Pattinson (aka Edward) and I swear he hates Twilight as much as anyone - maybe even more.  It's kind of funny in a sad sort of way. http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/7-hints-robert-pattinson-hates-twilight  and http://robertpattinsonhatingtwilight.tumblr.com/ (NSFW, language)
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« Reply #151 on: January 16, 2013, 12:06:53 PM »
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It's a remix from Buffy and Twilight

I remember that!  I think I'd pay good money to see Buffy beat the tar out of Edward.

Very funny, nicely done :)

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« Reply #152 on: January 16, 2013, 12:14:16 PM »
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It's a remix from Buffy and Twilight

I remember that!  I think I'd pay good money to see Buffy beat the tar out of Edward.

Very funny, nicely done :)

I'll have to watch that when I'm not at work. But I suspect I'll love it, because I already own (and proudly wear) the t-shirt that says "And then Buffy staked Edward. The End."

I've been known to refer to "Baby, It's Cold Outside" as "The Ode to Date Rape," and to "As Long As He Needs Me" as "The Ode to Codependency."

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« Reply #153 on: January 16, 2013, 12:24:31 PM »
Oh, another one.. the kids' book "I love you forever".  I'll probably lose my mommy badge for saying that, but it's creepy! It starts out OK, with the mom singing the "I love you forever" song to her baby.. then as he grows.. but when it ends with her sneaking over to his house in the middle of the night, when he's a grown man, and climbing in his window to sing the song to him (while he's sleeping).. yeah, my Mom would be getting a mental inquest warrant, not just a restraining order.

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« Reply #154 on: January 16, 2013, 01:09:10 PM »
Oh, another one.. the kids' book "I love you forever".  I'll probably lose my mommy badge for saying that, but it's creepy! It starts out OK, with the mom singing the "I love you forever" song to her baby.. then as he grows.. but when it ends with her sneaking over to his house in the middle of the night, when he's a grown man, and climbing in his window to sing the song to him (while he's sleeping).. yeah, my Mom would be getting a mental inquest warrant, not just a restraining order.



So happy to hear someone else say that!  My step dad bought that book for my 4 year old, creeped me out so bad the first time I read it.  I get the willies every time he asks me to read that to him! It's not sweet, it downright weird! 

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« Reply #155 on: January 16, 2013, 01:33:14 PM »
See, I always thought the son wasn't actually awake; he left his window unlatched and learned the song himself, as he sang it to his mother at the end.
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« Reply #156 on: January 16, 2013, 01:40:43 PM »
See, I always thought the son wasn't actually awake; he left his window unlatched and learned the song himself, as he sang it to his mother at the end.

Whether he accepted this practice or not, I still find this book crazy and horribly creepy.  I was told that I would understand when I had a son.

Yep.  That book is still creepy.

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« Reply #157 on: January 16, 2013, 02:41:32 PM »
Creepy song: You're Beautiful by James Blunt
She smiled at me on the subway.
She was with another man.
But I won't lose no sleep on that,
'Cause I've got a plan.

Really James? You've got a plan.  I mean at least he admits they're not going to be together but you've got to worry about what his plan might be for the random girl on the train.

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« Reply #158 on: January 16, 2013, 02:51:29 PM »
See, I always thought the son wasn't actually awake; he left his window unlatched and learned the song himself, as he sang it to his mother at the end.

Whether he accepted this practice or not, I still find this book crazy and horribly creepy.  I was told that I would understand when I had a son.

Yep.  That book is still creepy.

He wasn't awake.. from the book (hope this is okay),

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That teenager grew. He grew and he grew and he grew. He grew until he was a grown-up man. He left home and got a house across town. But sometimes on dark nights the mother got into her car and drove across town.  If all the lights in her son's house were out, she opened his bedroom window, crawled across the floor, and looked up over the side of his bed. If that great big man was really asleep she picked him up and rocked him back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And while she rocked him she sang:

I'll love you forever,
I'll like you for always,
As long as I'm living
my baby you'll be.

Great. Now I'm going to have nightmares of my mom sneaking in my window and trying to pick me up while I'm sleeping.

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« Reply #159 on: January 16, 2013, 02:56:59 PM »
Oh, another one.. the kids' book "I love you forever".  I'll probably lose my mommy badge for saying that, but it's creepy! It starts out OK, with the mom singing the "I love you forever" song to her baby.. then as he grows.. but when it ends with her sneaking over to his house in the middle of the night, when he's a grown man, and climbing in his window to sing the song to him (while he's sleeping).. yeah, my Mom would be getting a mental inquest warrant, not just a restraining order.



I used to read that to my oldest son when he was little.  It always made me cry because I am such a sappy hearted person.  Then I read it again when he turned 18 and we laughed at how creepy it really was.  He added some lines like "and then the son pulled out a shotgun from under the bed and blew his mom away because he thought she was a burglar."  Or "They were in the midst of "scrabble" and the DIL heard a noise.  She turned around to see her MIL with a creepy beatific smile on her face and a butcher's knife in her hand."
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« Reply #160 on: January 16, 2013, 03:13:33 PM »
Oh, another one.. the kids' book "I love you forever".  I'll probably lose my mommy badge for saying that, but it's creepy! It starts out OK, with the mom singing the "I love you forever" song to her baby.. then as he grows.. but when it ends with her sneaking over to his house in the middle of the night, when he's a grown man, and climbing in his window to sing the song to him (while he's sleeping).. yeah, my Mom would be getting a mental inquest warrant, not just a restraining order.



I actually always appreciated the absurdity.  I remember tearing up as I read the first few pages, and then laughing at the silliness of mom breaking in and rocking him to sleep.  The book goes from being so sentimental to so silly and far-fetched that it made me giggle.  And then I read the last page about him taking care of mom at the end, rocking her, and telling her he will love her forever, that his mommy she will always be, and I start crying like a baby.  Heck, I am tearing up just typing this.
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« Reply #161 on: January 16, 2013, 03:19:45 PM »
Is that book the prequel to Psycho?

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« Reply #162 on: January 16, 2013, 03:27:49 PM »
Is that book the prequel to Psycho?

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« Reply #163 on: January 16, 2013, 03:39:06 PM »
lol. I have that book! I remember even as a little girl thinking, "Well, no wonder he's not married..."

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« Reply #164 on: January 16, 2013, 03:43:08 PM »
Anything on this list- http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/10/four-lies-movies-taught-us-about-dating/all/1/

I especially liked the bit about "Sure you're in a tree outside her bedroom window, but it's only so you can watch her sleep!"

Actually, pretty much every vampire "romantic gesture" I can think of creeps me out. I'm not sure it's because they're all extra creepy compared to non-supernatural idiocies, or if the added element of "Dead people are hot!" puts them over the top.

The worst example I can think of is from the sixth season of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. The scene where Spike attacks Buffy in her bathroom and essentially tries to rape her. The writers apparently thought that would come off as more romantically desperate than, you know, rape-y. If I recall correctly, the woman running the show at that point said it was based on a moment in her own life when she tried to force herself onto a guy to keep him from leaving her. Putting aside the fact that it's an incredibly ill-advised and despicable thing for a woman to do to a man, there's also the fact that it's especially creepy if you turn it around and make it a man doing it to a woman. Like it or not, our culture treats male on female violence differently than it treats female on male violence, and to throw a sexual element in on top of that? And still somehow think your audience will be okay with it? Not very bright.

Of course, there were some people who saw it as oh so romantic, as intended. That just goes to show you the usual sort of things this sort of situation goes to show you.

Really? That was supposed to be romantic? I always thought that it was meant to showcase that no matter how he felt about Buffy, Spike was still a revolting monster at heart. And further that when he realised that it was what inspired him to go get his soul back (so that he wouldn't be a revolting monster anymore and Buffy wouldn't be entirely justified in hating his guts). Admittedly I tend to rewatch the earlier seasons so I haven't seen it for ages, but that's my recollection.

It was a *brilliant* scene when I interpreted it my way. But romantic? No way on earth. (Also a woman trying to force herself onto a man to prevent him from leaving is revolting. I hate that some writer has tried to justify her moment of criminal assault by trying to fool the rest of us).

Your interpretation is the one the writers intended.  The rape scene was meant to be horrifying.  It was NOT meant to be romantic.  It was intended to show both what Spike was still capable of, despite believing that he loved Buffy, and that their relationship was highly dysfunctional and damaging to Buffy.  From that point on, both Spike and Buffy grew as people.  According to the writers, they wanted something that was so awful that it would drive Spike to do what he did next (seek out a soul).  And to that end, they were successful.   Joss Whedon has said in interviews that doing the bathroom rape scene meant that they had to be very cautious with the characters' relationship from then on.  The attempted rape is the reason that you never seen Spike and Buffy scrabbling in the 7th season, because Joss didn't want to give the impression that rape is something you just get over.  I thought it was handled very delicately.

As to the writer's history, she drew from her own experiences which she realized long ago were VERY, VERY wrong.  She was not justifying what she did.  Not even remotely.  That scene in Buffy was intended to be as disgusting and horrifying as it was.
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