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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2013, 11:09:37 AM »
I feel that not fixing it draws attention to it. As in "Look, look, look! I'm quoting something with a spelling error!!!" Whereas fixing it makes a polite fiction that it never happened in the first place.

See, and I feel like ignoring the typo and pretending I didn't see it makes the polite fiction, while fixing it makes it absolutely clear that I saw it.

POD.  You don't "fix" someone's post unless you've been asked to help specifically with editing a letter.  It's just comes across as smug.

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« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2013, 11:16:37 AM »
^^ This.

There's no possible way to correct a typo in a quote without it reading as 'I know better than you', and that's wrong.

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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2013, 11:19:51 AM »
I agree. This also isn't a language forum and editing someone else's posts just seems like an attempt at educating them.
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2013, 11:51:01 AM »
I Still vehemently disagree (and am sad that such uncharitable motives are ascribed to me when I have explained why I'd correct typos and it's got nothing at all to do with wanting to "educate them"), but I can see we shall just have to agree to disagree :)
 
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2013, 12:06:36 PM »
I Still vehemently disagree (and am sad that such uncharitable motives are ascribed to me when I have explained why I'd correct typos and it's got nothing at all to do with wanting to "educate them"), but I can see we shall just have to agree to disagree :)

You may still disagree, but would you continue to correct posts knowing that so many people believe that it's rude? 

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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2013, 12:06:43 PM »
I Sstill vehemently disagree (and am sad that such uncharitable motives are ascribed to me when I have explained why I'd correct typos and it's got nothing at all to do with wanting to "educate them"), but I can see we shall just have to agree to disagree. :)

Do you really not see how something like the above, regardless of intention, comes off as condescending? This isn't about intent. This is about perception.

It hurts nothing to let someone else's post go by with an incorrect homonym, misspelling, or grammatical error; however, if you correct any of those things, even unobtrusively, you run the risk of offending someone. It simply isn't nice.
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2013, 12:42:24 PM »
I still vehemently disagree (and am sad that such uncharitable motives are ascribed to me when I have explained why I'd correct typos and it's got nothing at all to do with wanting to "educate them"), but I can see we shall just have to agree to disagree. :)

Do you really not see how something like the above, regardless of intention, comes off as condescending? This isn't about intent. This is about perception.

If I correct a typo, I don't point it out. I'd just quietly correct it like above. Because I agree, what you did would be rude and condescending (note, not calling you either, I knew you were just making an example), and most definitely not be a "polite fiction" that the typo never happened in the first place.

I Still vehemently disagree (and am sad that such uncharitable motives are ascribed to me when I have explained why I'd correct typos and it's got nothing at all to do with wanting to "educate them"), but I can see we shall just have to agree to disagree :)

You may still disagree, but would you continue to correct posts knowing that so many people believe that it's rude? 

Not on purpose. I may forget as it's become such an ingrained habit of mine. But if I remember (and I promise I'll try!) I'll just refrain from using the quote feature. Since I, personally, think it's unkind of me to notice a typo and embarrass the poster by repeating it, I think that's the best compromise :)

(Emphasising that it's a personal quirk, and I don't think it's unkind of anybody else to notice a typo and not correct it... although I hope they would do me the kindness and correct mine, since I'll try to do them the kindness and not correct theirs. I don't actually expect that to happen though, as it would be impossible to remember who wants what.)
 
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2013, 12:46:48 PM »
What difference does a typo make in teh grand scheme of things? Why would you feel compelled to correct it if it doesn't hurt comprehension?

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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2013, 12:49:18 PM »
I don't feel compelled to correct it if I don't quote it :)

I feel it is a kindness to correct it if I am quoting it, as it seems rude to me to knowingly repeat another person's error.

I realize I'm in the minority here though (although I'm glad to see I'm not totally alone :D ), so I will do my best to stop doing it.
 
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2013, 12:53:42 PM »
I still vehemently disagree (and am sad that such uncharitable motives are ascribed to me when I have explained why I'd correct typos and it's got nothing at all to do with wanting to "educate them"), but I can see we shall just have to agree to disagree. :)

Do you really not see how something like the above, regardless of intention, comes off as condescending? This isn't about intent. This is about perception.

If I correct a typo, I don't point it out. I'd just quietly correct it like above. Because I agree, what you did would be rude and condescending (note, not calling you either, I knew you were just making an example), and most definitely not be a "polite fiction" that the typo never happened in the first place.


You'll note that I said "even unobtrusively". The result is the same; it comes off as smug and superior.

What I don't understand is how you can sit there saying "I don't do it to be rude, so it's fine!" when so many of us are telling you that it comes off as offensive, condescending, and smug? So frequently on this site, we talk about how rude; how very, very rude it is when others do and say hurtful things, and how their conviction that they're totally fine because they don't see the problem doesn't negate that rudeness.
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2013, 12:56:16 PM »
It's a typo. We're not talking about correcting misinformation, but a typo. Leave them be. I agree that it's rude to change anyone's post in this manner and no, it's not a kindness to do something like that publicly.
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2013, 01:01:40 PM »
You'll note that I said "even unobtrusively". The result is the same; it comes off as smug and superior.
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What I don't understand is how you can sit there saying "I don't do it to be rude, so it's fine!" when so many of us are telling you that it comes off as offensive, condescending, and smug? So frequently on this site, we talk about how rude; how very, very rude it is when others do and say hurtful things, and how their conviction that they're totally fine because they don't see the problem doesn't negate that rudeness.

That's not what I'm saying though. I'm saying "I don't do it to be rude, I disagree that it's rude, but I see I'm in the minority, so I'll stop doing it. Since I meant it as a kindness, it would defeat the purpose to continue since I don't know whether the person would appreciate it or not". Since etiquette is about what we do, not what we think I can disagree all I want, as long as my behaviour follows the general consensus :)
 
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2013, 01:05:20 PM »
It's a typo. We're not talking about correcting misinformation, but a typo. Leave them be. I agree that it's rude to change anyone's post in this manner and no, it's not a kindness to do something like that publicly.

It's a kindness to me :) Assuming it's done unobtrusively of course. I get embarrassed when I see I've made a typo and return to correct it, so I appreciate it when other people do it for me when quoting me.

I realize I'm pretty alone in this though, and like I've already said, I'll stop doing it :)
 
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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2013, 07:03:07 PM »
It's a typo. We're not talking about correcting misinformation, but a typo. Leave them be. I agree that it's rude to change anyone's post in this manner and no, it's not a kindness to do something like that publicly.

It's a kindness to me :) Assuming it's done unobtrusively of course. I get embarrassed when I see I've made a typo and return to correct it, so I appreciate it when other people do it for me when quoting me.

I realize I'm pretty alone in this though, and like I've already said, I'll stop doing it :)

Hah, if it helps, I agree with you 100%.  One of those things I never in a million years would think of as rude, and I was very surprised at the unkind assumptions being made about our motivations.  I feel like a simple "I prefer that other posters not fix my typos when quoting me, please, it bothers me" would have been more polite, but it's funny how perceptions differ, eh? 

So: Maria and I will continue to fix each other's typos, but no one else's  :D

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Re: Quoting & editing another post within your reply (excluding mods)
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2013, 07:21:22 PM »
Oh wow, I didn't realize people thought that it was rude.  I usually run the spell check feature and just automatically correct everything that comes up as a typo whether it is in a quote or not.  Interesting.
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