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Elfmama

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1275 on: September 04, 2013, 01:43:03 PM »
(Even if it's not true: a friend of mine calls this the "medieval 'Tiffany' problem," because while "Tiffany" is an attested name from the 13th century, if you write a historical novel and use it, the reader isn't going to be impressed with your research, they're going to think you made a mistake.)

In multiple cree8ive spellings, too!  Which, if I'm given the slightest bit of encouragement, I can document for you.  ;D
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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1276 on: September 04, 2013, 02:01:24 PM »
(Even if it's not true: a friend of mine calls this the "medieval 'Tiffany' problem," because while "Tiffany" is an attested name from the 13th century, if you write a historical novel and use it, the reader isn't going to be impressed with your research, they're going to think you made a mistake.)

In multiple cree8ive spellings, too!  Which, if I'm given the slightest bit of encouragement, I can document for you.  ;D

Can you get me a document for Typhffanyie?

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1277 on: September 04, 2013, 04:10:04 PM »

#6.  Shouldered.  "He shouldered his way into the room."  ...REALLY?????  He SHOULDERED his way into the room?  :P.

Ouch, I can see shouldering his way through a crowd. But into a room?


If I read this, I'd assume he was breaking down the door.

Really? I would assume that there must be people at the door he had to shoulder his way past. Then again this is without context, so...

I would assume he was very frail and so had trouble walking through air pockets.

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« Reply #1278 on: September 04, 2013, 07:40:42 PM »

#6.  Shouldered.  "He shouldered his way into the room."  ...REALLY?????  He SHOULDERED his way into the room?  :P.

Ouch, I can see shouldering his way through a crowd. But into a room?


If I read this, I'd assume he was breaking down the door.

Really? I would assume that there must be people at the door he had to shoulder his way past. Then again this is without context, so...

I would assume he was very frail and so had trouble walking through air pockets.

You guys are killing me :-).

I already returned the e-book to the library, and some other poor sucker romance reader has checked it out, so I can't give you the exact quote today, but I put a hold on the book so when s/he returns it, I'll get it back :-).

To the best of my knowledge there was nobody blocking his way, the room wasn't full, etc.  It's just his manly way of walking, I guess.

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« Reply #1279 on: September 04, 2013, 08:12:03 PM »
And now I see him turning sideways and going into the room shoulder first. :D

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« Reply #1280 on: September 04, 2013, 08:37:48 PM »

#6.  Shouldered.  "He shouldered his way into the room."  ...REALLY?????  He SHOULDERED his way into the room?  :P.

'As he shouldered his way into the room, a nearby referee shouted, 'CLIPPING!'

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1281 on: September 04, 2013, 08:41:12 PM »
I was reading Eddings again (the Elenium) and I just realized that he never named Queen Elahna's mother. Every character refers to her as "Queen Elahna's mother", even though the woman had been their queen before her death. Talk about weird!

No I think she's mentioned by name in one place. They're talking about Aldreas and Arissa and mention her by name.

I better keep reading then!

You know, that actually makes it even worse. If she has a name why would everyone from the hooker to the knight always call her Ehlana's mother. It is kind of driving me crazy.
Because the author remembered he'd named her, forgot WHAT he'd named her, and was too lazy to look it up.
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« Reply #1282 on: September 04, 2013, 08:45:16 PM »


This conversation reminds me of His Girl Friday.  Walter (Cary Grant) is trying to sabotage his ex-wife's engagement and sends this blonde bombshell to pick up Hildy's (the ex-wife) fiance.  When trying to describe him, Walter says, "He looks like that fellow in the movies - what’s his name, Ralph Bellamy!"

Ralph Bellamy actually played the fiance. :D
Reminds me of my all-time favorite NCIS quote. Someone wonders aloud what Dr. Mallard looked like as a young man, and Gibbs replies, 'Illya Kuryakin'.


(for those who don't remember, actor David McCallum played both roles).

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« Reply #1283 on: September 04, 2013, 09:06:58 PM »


This conversation reminds me of His Girl Friday.  Walter (Cary Grant) is trying to sabotage his ex-wife's engagement and sends this blonde bombshell to pick up Hildy's (the ex-wife) fiance.  When trying to describe him, Walter says, "He looks like that fellow in the movies - what’s his name, Ralph Bellamy!"

Ralph Bellamy actually played the fiance. :D
Reminds me of my all-time favorite NCIS quote. Someone wonders aloud what Dr. Mallard looked like as a young man, and Gibbs replies, 'Illya Kuryakin'.


(for those who don't remember, actor David McCallum played both roles).

VorGuy was out of the States with his dad being military - he had no idea what the reference was about.  We lived in a rural area with little signal (this was B.C. - before cable tv) - I had seen Man From U.N.C.L.E. maybe four times when visiting houses with better antennas or in the city with more stations broadcasting....I caught the reference, but looked up a couple of stills from the show.
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« Reply #1284 on: September 04, 2013, 10:09:43 PM »


This conversation reminds me of His Girl Friday.  Walter (Cary Grant) is trying to sabotage his ex-wife's engagement and sends this blonde bombshell to pick up Hildy's (the ex-wife) fiance.  When trying to describe him, Walter says, "He looks like that fellow in the movies - what’s his name, Ralph Bellamy!"

Ralph Bellamy actually played the fiance. :D
Reminds me of my all-time favorite NCIS quote. Someone wonders aloud what Dr. Mallard looked like as a young man, and Gibbs replies, 'Illya Kuryakin'.


(for those who don't remember, actor David McCallum played both roles).

VorGuy was out of the States with his dad being military - he had no idea what the reference was about.  We lived in a rural area with little signal (this was B.C. - before cable tv) - I had seen Man From U.N.C.L.E. maybe four times when visiting houses with better antennas or in the city with more stations broadcasting....I caught the reference, but looked up a couple of stills from the show.
It's not many actors whose most famous roles are as a sex symbol,  and as an eccentric but kindly elderly man. :)

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1285 on: September 04, 2013, 11:07:46 PM »



I have a hard enough time writing in my own books, I can't imagine writing in someone else's book (person or public entity). Seriously, it wasn't until my fourth year in college when I realized that yes, I owned these books, and even if I was to sell them back to the school afterwards, it's okay to highlight important points so it's easier to study. Which led to me annotating my LotR when I traveled away from civilization for several months (it was the one book I was allowed to bring). Since coming back, I'm still hesitant to mark books, even when there's something glaringly obvious that I want to correct. It's a quandry.

Well, yes, I've been a very wicked person -- for which I repent in sackcloth and ashes. cwm, I have to wonder where out of the civilised world you went, that LOTR was the only book you were allowed to bring in.  I take it that it couldn't have been Kazakhstan -- wherein, I gather, Mr. Tolkien's works are forbidden.

It was a contracted deal that I go out there for a certain amount of time and live off the land. Weird situation to describe without going into details, but we were each allowed one book. PM me if you want details.

Thanks, but "enough" -- I won't bug you for details. (And, sorry for butchering the quote-tree; but hopefully, "who said what" will be discernable).

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1286 on: September 05, 2013, 06:43:33 AM »
Reminds me of my all-time favorite NCIS quote. Someone wonders aloud what Dr. Mallard looked like as a young man, and Gibbs replies, 'Illya Kuryakin'.


(for those who don't remember, actor David McCallum played both roles).

I loved that bit in NCIS.  It was just so funny.

But it's quite hard to find well written fanfiction and often it just gives me a headache.   My biggest pet peeves:

1. Wall O' Text.  Did no one teach these people paragraph structure? Or some do use paragraphs *and I use that term loosely*, but poorly.  It's like they realize it's a Wall O' Text and break it down into Bricks O' Text.  The way I learned to write, you start a new paragraph when a new person speaks.  Or if one person is telling a long story and you need to use paragraphs within the quote, start a new paragraph with quotation marks to show they're still speaking.

I hate the wall of text, especially when the writer has no idea that new person talking = new paragraph.  I backbutton out of there so quickly.

The 'best' wall of text story I saw was one long paragraph written in text speak, which ended with "LOLZ!!!"  Oddly enough, the story had no reviews at all.  Can't understand why.

Another fanfic pet peeve is when the author can't spell the characters' names.

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1287 on: September 05, 2013, 08:11:29 AM »
Saramago just loooves a wall of text. His sentences can go on for 5 or 6 lines, his paragraphs can reach 2 pages. He rambles on and on and on... His stories and characters are often fascinating but buried under all that. Personally, I can't read him, no matter how much I want to (except for a couple of shorter works).

The guy even won a Nobel prize.

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1288 on: September 05, 2013, 09:35:48 AM »
For fanfiction, at least, sometimes the Wall'O'Text isn't necessarily the author's fault. I've imported stories from one place to another and all the formatting was borked horribly. It took me a few weeks to actually figure out how to fix it, and in the meantime it was just a huge mess of text.

Not that it's the case all the time, but sometimes you just never know.

One of my biggest things is people who don't know how to use elipses. I've actually seen someone string a bunch of commas together to try to indicate a really long pause,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,like this. No. Just...no.

Funny story driving today. I was on the highway and was grading the traffic patterns with punctuation marks. This slow down was a semicolon, that one was a colon, they were both close to full stops but not quite there. This was a comma, it was just a slight pause in the flow of traffic. It was fun.

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Re: Reading/Book Pet Peeves
« Reply #1289 on: September 05, 2013, 07:22:34 PM »
And now I see him turning sideways and going into the room shoulder first. :D

maybe his shoulders were that broad he had to do it that way, so he could fit :)

but seriously the only way i can see someone shouldering their way into a room is if they are trying to break down the door
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