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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2013, 09:18:08 AM »
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SOLE-der.  It really does rhyme with folder and colder.

Soldier comes out more like Sole-Ja.  So, similar but distinguishable.

So we don't pronounce the "l" for the same reason you don't seem to pronounce the "r" in soldier

Hmm, I guess.  But we generally don't say a strong "R" on anything in the same way that Americans do.  Its not so much that the R not said, its just not as distinguishable due to our accent.

Do you feel like you're pronouncing the "L" and I'm just not hearing it, or is it like a silent letter?

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2013, 09:22:22 AM »
It is silent

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2013, 10:38:08 AM »
Solder
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SOmetimes the L is silent.

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2013, 10:58:25 AM »
Scallops - scall rhymes with all and hall not Hal.  Hearing it wrong makes my ears itch.
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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2013, 10:59:32 AM »
You know, I don't see any difference between the pronunciation of 'Poor-trit' and 'Pour-trit'. 

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2013, 11:01:15 AM »
I call the white broccoli-like food "COW-uh-flower", but I guess I'm wrong there, too .

You mean cauliflower? It's 'Colly-flower'.

Trimming for length.

SOLE-der.  It really does rhyme with folder and colder.

Soldier comes out more like Sole-Ja.  So, similar but distinguishable.

So we don't pronounce the "l" for the same reason you don't seem to pronounce the "r" in soldier

Hmm, I guess.  But we generally don't say a strong "R" on anything in the same way that Americans do.  Its not so much that the R not said, its just not as distinguishable due to our accent.


That's true, but the American pronunciation of 'mirror' has always confused me, since the Rs are so strong over there and the middle ones seem not to be pronounced at all: to my British ears, I hear them saying 'Meer', where as here it would be 'Mi-ruh'.

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2013, 11:14:05 AM »
The word sauna drives me batty.  It's a Finnish word, and Finnish always has the emphasis on the first syllable.  It also pronounces every letter in a word.  So the correct way would be along the lines of SOU-na (like the first syllable of the word 'south').  I know the most common way to pronouce it in the States is SAW-na.  If you say it like that in the part of Michigan I'm originally from, it definitely marks you as an outsider.

LOL!

I went to school in Marquette and was schooled on the correct way to pronounce that word.  And now...everyone looks at me funny when I do.   ;D

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2013, 11:28:52 AM »
Scallops - scall rhymes with all and hall not Hal.  Hearing it wrong makes my ears itch.

So it rhymes with trollop?  Oh you naughty little fishy...
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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2013, 12:04:06 PM »
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But we generally don't say a strong "R" on anything in the same way that Americans do.  Its not so much that the R not said, its just not as distinguishable due to our accent.

What you are talking about is whether your dialect of English is rhotic or non-rhotic. "Rhotic" comes from the Greek letter "rho" or R. Essentially, it has to do with how you treat "R" when it comes after a vowel. Do you pronounce it or do you use it as an indicator of how the vowel is sounded.

An easy way to tell if your accent is rhotic or non-rhotic is to say "father" and "farther." If you pronounced them the same, more or less like "fah-thah," then you are non-rhotic. If you say something like "fah-thurr" and "farr-thurr" you are rhotic.

Most Americans are rhotic; most speakers of British English are not.

This causes problems when people try to explain pronunciation when writing,  without using IPA (international phonetic alphabet) which many people don't know.

I once saw information on Mexican food, written by someone in the UK, that suggested pronunciations like tarco and salsar. Looked pretty startling to me, but for a non-rhotic accent, the extra R tells you to say "tah-co" and "sahl-sah."

There is a local radio broadcaster, originally from Ireland, who says that a sponsoring restaurant sells "tack-os."

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2013, 12:54:41 PM »
Oh, I have so many that I would need 10-20 posts just to name them all.  I'll keep to local (NEPA) mispronunciations.

axe - ask
dahg - dog (sounds like a Boston accent with a more nasal tone)
chimbley - chimney (although chi-min-ee is running a close second)
dis, dat, dem, dese, dose, dere - this, that, them, these, those, there (PLEASE people!  There is a "th" in there)
gooms - gums (as in the things that hold your teeth in your mouth)
Doverman Pincher - Doberman Pinscher
drownded - drowned
torTILLa - tortilla
kwehsahDILLa - quesadilla
fillum - film
tanks - thanks
Sayerday - Saturday
Eyetalian - Italian
skettie or pahsketti - spaghetti (I don't mind when small children do this; but grown ups?  ::))

A personal pet peeve is when people pronounce the abbreviation for avenue (Ave.).  It just irritates the ehell out of me!

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2013, 01:26:46 PM »
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Eyetalian - Italian

This one makes me cringe.

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2013, 01:33:33 PM »
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Eyetalian - Italian

This one makes me cringe.

Where I grew up 'Italian' could and did become 'EYE - tralian'. 

Let us not go there.

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2013, 01:39:25 PM »

A personal pet peeve is when people pronounce the abbreviation for avenue (Ave.).  It just irritates the ehell out of me!

Ha!  A road near my college was "Bryn Mawr Ave.," always pronounced "Ave.," and never called "Bryn Mawr Avenue."  Thanks for the memory!

One of the homes I lived in growing up (on a military base) was on Buena Vista Avenue.  Pronounced by the locals, "Bewna Vizta."  Drove me nuts.

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2013, 01:46:30 PM »
The word sauna drives me batty.  It's a Finnish word, and Finnish always has the emphasis on the first syllable.  It also pronounces every letter in a word.  So the correct way would be along the lines of SOU-na (like the first syllable of the word 'south').  I know the most common way to pronouce it in the States is SAW-na.  If you say it like that in the part of Michigan I'm originally from, it definitely marks you as an outsider.

I grew up in NW MI, under the bridge (AKA troll), and I'd forgotten about this. We did say it the way you did, but everywhere else I've lived it's been saw-na. I still say it closer to your way, even after all these years.

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Re: How do you pronounce words?
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2013, 01:55:44 PM »
I live near NYC, and my friends here have a good laugh over how I say words. A good example is: Mary, marry, merry. I say them all the same. They say them differently.

My issue is that I have so many language influences. I was raised in the upper midwest, but by English Canadian parents. Then I married a guy from the south and lived there over 20 yrs. Now I live in the NE. I pick up a little bit from every place I live. And, interestingly, when I visited N. Ireland several years ago for some reason I slipped into the English Canadian accent without even thinking about it. Everyone there was convinced I was Canadian!  :)

I have a lot of language pet peeves, but a big one is sherbet. I hear "sherbert" all the time (BTW, the spellcheck on this site tagged that as being misspelled). At my local ice cream place, it's spelled that way.  :P