My new neighbors have moved in! UPDATED, pg 4 post 52

[JustCallMePat]

Evil Pat here...  If you're tech savvy, monitor your router for wireless connections.  When you have the identifiers (the MAC addresses) of the offenders, set the router to allow them in while blocking all others.  Now it gets good.  Set the allowed usage times in five minute increments - five on, five off, five on, five off.  Add a few blocked hours here and there. Listen for moans of frustration from outside.    Disallow certain protocols.  Have fun learning about security settings.  When you learn enough, block the intruders WiFi access altogether. 

Hey, it's *your* router and *you* are paying for the service!  You can adjust it any darn way you please as often as you please! 

[MOM21SON]

The fence estimate came in less than we expected.  So I had them give a estimate for vinyl fencing and it was way over.

But anyway, DH dropped his denture yesterday and broke it so we have no budget for now.

Now when is anyone going to pop out and tell me all this is a joke?

[Possum]

  They even use our address to get their mail - because it's easier for them. 

I'm not sure, but this might be illegal.  I know it is if they go into your mailbox.  Talk to your postman/woman, or to the local postmaster, and see if you can arrange it so anything addressed to them will not be put into your box.  If the porch/lawn is that bad, too, then the mailman won't deliver, and eventually they'll have to clean up (or start picking up their mail). 

Finally, if nothing else, start tossing their mail onto their lawn.  It's more respect than they show for the neighbors.

I'm sorry you have to deal with them.  They sound like they're horribly entitled, and I feel the worst for their kid.

[reflection5]

  They even use our address to get their mail - because it's easier for them. 

I'm not sure, but this might be illegal.  I know it is if they go into your mailbox.  Talk to your postman/woman, or to the local postmaster, and see if you can arrange it so anything addressed to them will not be put into your box.  If the porch/lawn is that bad, too, then the mailman won't deliver, and eventually they'll have to clean up (or start picking up their mail). 

Finally, if nothing else, start tossing their mail onto their lawn.  It's more respect than they show for the neighbors.

I'm sorry you have to deal with them.  They sound like they're horribly entitled, and I feel the worst for their kid.

Agree with Possum.

They use your address to get their mail because you allow them to.  If you want it to stop report it to the post office and have it stopped.  In the interim, mark all their mail "Not at this address, Return to sender", and when you get a chance toss it all into a mailbox.  If they dare to ask about their mail, tell them your house is not a maildrop and the only mail you accept is for people who live at your address.

[MindsEye]

  They even use our address to get their mail - because it's easier for them. 

I'm not sure, but this might be illegal.  I know it is if they go into your mailbox.  Talk to your postman/woman, or to the local postmaster, and see if you can arrange it so anything addressed to them will not be put into your box.  If the porch/lawn is that bad, too, then the mailman won't deliver, and eventually they'll have to clean up (or start picking up their mail). 

Finally, if nothing else, start tossing their mail onto their lawn.  It's more respect than they show for the neighbors.

I'm sorry you have to deal with them.  They sound like they're horribly entitled, and I feel the worst for their kid.

Hmmm... well unfortunately you can't just trash their mail, even though I bet you are tempted to.  And I don't think that just tossing their mail on their lawn would have the desired effect...

But nothing says that you have to take their mail back to the post office right away, either.  If I were you, I might just hang on to all of that mail for a while - say, a month or two - and then bring it back to the post office in one big pile.   

[Cheapie]

  They even use our address to get their mail - because it's easier for them. 

I'm not sure, but this might be illegal.  I know it is if they go into your mailbox.  Talk to your postman/woman, or to the local postmaster, and see if you can arrange it so anything addressed to them will not be put into your box.  If the porch/lawn is that bad, too, then the mailman won't deliver, and eventually they'll have to clean up (or start picking up their mail). 

Finally, if nothing else, start tossing their mail onto their lawn.  It's more respect than they show for the neighbors.

I'm sorry you have to deal with them.  They sound like they're horribly entitled, and I feel the worst for their kid.

Hmmm... well unfortunately you can't just trash their mail, even though I bet you are tempted to.  And I don't think that just tossing their mail on their lawn would have the desired effect...

But nothing says that you have to take their mail back to the post office right away, either.  If I were you, I might just hang on to all of that mail for a while - say, a month or two - and then bring it back to the post office in one big pile.   

I really like this idea!  You could also get a locking mailbox.

Here's hoping they move out sooner than later!

[Twik]

Yep. "Return to sender - not at this address" for all of it. Problem will soon solve itself.

[MOM21SON]

Update!

Well, the language barrier is a real problem.  the parking the car under my window problem has stopped........so they could lay sod.

Over the weekend I tried to speak to them and showed them the flags.  They were very nice and said, "I know.  How are you."

They have dug up the old grass around the tree and have their chairs lined up around it.  I am at my wits end!  the good news is, that I emailed the fence guy and he was very nice and is coming this week and letting us make payments.

We ran into unforeseen circumstances and have not had the money, so this is very nice of him.

BTW, before I posted I ran outside to take a pic and they were all sitting there eating, under the tree, in my yard.

Oh, and I don't know if I shared this before or not, but I did have the tree trimmed and they watched the whole time, I thought that would let them know it is my yard.  No, he said, 'It's ok, cut it.  Thank you.'

I am not being mean and have come to terms with different cultures do different things.  I have no control over what they do in their yard.  I just am really sick of not feeling comfortable in my own bedroom.

[WillyNilly]

Originally I thought they were right up to the property line but in their yard - annoying but their right - now they have moved into your yard? Not cool! Make sure you let the fence guys know you are the only person to be listened to when he's installing that fence!

[wheeitsme]

Oh dear golly - they think it's their yard!  Good luck!

[MOM21SON]

I just took a picture and he came up and said, "Hi, how is your son.?"  I am trying to stay calm. 

[TootsNYC]

plant a lilac bush just outside your window? Or put a trellis and a fast-growing vine or some sort there? That might keep air circulation and a little bit of light, and still block the visual and maybe even SOME of the noise?

[Minmom3]

Mom, if you KNOW exactly where the property line is, how about running string from the back line to the front, and getting a can of spray paint and spraying the line.  Then, when they ask, you can tell them you're putting up a fence and THIS is where it will be......  And when they put their chairs back under the tree in your yard, you can move them to the other side of the paint line, making the point that THIS is YOUR yard, and THAT is THEIR yard.

[ladyknight1]

If ever a fence was needed it is now. Can you contact the local police department and see if they have someone that speaks their language to explain it to them?

[Otterpop]

MOM21SON I feel for you.  You're going to feel so much better once that fence is up.  Can you do as some have suggested and put some kind of temporary line up meanwhile?  Stakes and string are pretty cheap and look like the contractor is marking the property line ahead of building.