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Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
« Reply #1530 on: December 23, 2013, 01:47:45 AM »
This is an interesting discussion, but we have drifted a little OT.

Here's one: in the past I've had trouble with iron deficiency and had to go on liver tablets (not nice at all) until I found a good supplement to help me. This was a while ago and since then I've become a blood donor and they test your iron levels just before you donate.

My mum had a bee in her bonnet that this might be an issue in my pregnancy. I said it might, it's something to keep an eye on but I pointed out that I'd been a blood donor and am taking pregnancy vitamins that also contain iron.

Iron deficiency is common in pregnancy, I know the twins sucked a stack out of me. They do check for it though so it's not usually a huge issue. Just don't take iron supplements with tea, it stops it being absorbed fully

I never heard of that!  I know there are some drugs where you have to avoid citrus, but I never heard of tea.  Do you know what is in the tea that messes with absorption?  Does it depend on the type of tea?

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« Reply #1531 on: December 23, 2013, 03:02:46 AM »
This is an interesting discussion, but we have drifted a little OT.

Here's one: in the past I've had trouble with iron deficiency and had to go on liver tablets (not nice at all) until I found a good supplement to help me. This was a while ago and since then I've become a blood donor and they test your iron levels just before you donate.

My mum had a bee in her bonnet that this might be an issue in my pregnancy. I said it might, it's something to keep an eye on but I pointed out that I'd been a blood donor and am taking pregnancy vitamins that also contain iron.

Iron deficiency is common in pregnancy, I know the twins sucked a stack out of me. They do check for it though so it's not usually a huge issue. Just don't take iron supplements with tea, it stops it being absorbed fully

I never heard of that!  I know there are some drugs where you have to avoid citrus, but I never heard of tea.  Do you know what is in the tea that messes with absorption?  Does it depend on the type of tea?

It's always risky to quote from the internet, but I found this website: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/912.html

It says this:

Iron is LIKELY SAFE for most people when it is used appropriately. However, it can cause side effects including stomach upset and pain, constipation or diarrhea, nausea, and vomiting. Taking iron supplements with food seems to reduce some of these side effects. But food can also reduce how well the body absorbed iron. Iron should be taken on an empty stomach if possible. But if it causes too many side effects, it can be taken with food. Try to avoid taking it with foods containing dairy products, coffee, tea, or cereals.

And to contradict that, there is an article that talks about how black tea will limit its efficiency

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« Reply #1532 on: December 23, 2013, 03:14:48 AM »
This is an interesting discussion, but we have drifted a little OT.

Here's one: in the past I've had trouble with iron deficiency and had to go on liver tablets (not nice at all) until I found a good supplement to help me. This was a while ago and since then I've become a blood donor and they test your iron levels just before you donate.

My mum had a bee in her bonnet that this might be an issue in my pregnancy. I said it might, it's something to keep an eye on but I pointed out that I'd been a blood donor and am taking pregnancy vitamins that also contain iron.

Iron deficiency is common in pregnancy, I know the twins sucked a stack out of me. They do check for it though so it's not usually a huge issue. Just don't take iron supplements with tea, it stops it being absorbed fully

I never heard of that!  I know there are some drugs where you have to avoid citrus, but I never heard of tea.  Do you know what is in the tea that messes with absorption?  Does it depend on the type of tea?

I have no idea actually. My midwife knew I don't drink coffee, just tea, so I don't know if it's just tea or caffeine. And you should take iron with vit c apparently, most supplements have if added.

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Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
« Reply #1533 on: December 23, 2013, 06:58:22 AM »
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« Reply #1534 on: December 23, 2013, 07:07:19 AM »
Technically you don't get a period when taking the contraception pill, you get an artificial bleed that was specifically included by the manufactures because they thought women would be disturbed by the lack of periods when taking the pill. There are some types of contraceptive pill where there is no monthly bleed - many women, such as myself, take them for medical reasons just for that purpose.

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« Reply #1535 on: December 23, 2013, 07:16:25 AM »
Technically you don't get a period when taking the contraception pill, you get an artificial bleed that was specifically included by the manufactures because they thought women would be disturbed by the lack of periods when taking the pill. There are some types of contraceptive pill where there is no monthly bleed - many women, such as myself, take them for medical reasons just for that purpose.

Exactly. The contraceptive pill I take means I can control when I have my "period". I take the pill for 21 days, then I stop taking it for 7 days, during which I have my period. After the 7 days, I start taking the pill again. So no, I don't have my period while I'm on the pill - I have it when I go off the pill. I just happen to go back on it again after the 7 days.

But theoretically I could just keep taking the pill with no breaks, and I wouldn't have my period.
 
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« Reply #1536 on: December 23, 2013, 07:23:25 AM »
Technically you don't get a period when taking the contraception pill, you get an artificial bleed that was specifically included by the manufactures because they thought women would be disturbed by the lack of periods when taking the pill. There are some types of contraceptive pill where there is no monthly bleed - many women, such as myself, take them for medical reasons just for that purpose.

Exactly. The contraceptive pill I take means I can control when I have my "period". I take the pill for 21 days, then I stop taking it for 7 days, during which I have my period. After the 7 days, I start taking the pill again. So no, I don't have my period while I'm on the pill - I have it when I go off the pill. I just happen to go back on it again after the 7 days.

But theoretically I could just keep taking the pill with no breaks, and I wouldn't have my period.

That didn't work for me when I was on a 21-day pill.  I could skip one period but if I continued taking it right through for a second month I got a period at the right time anyway.

I was referring to the 21-day pill above when I said you still get a period.  The men in question believed that taking any kind of pill meant you got no bleeding at all.  One of them also believed that when I took the first pill of the 21 after the 7 day break, the period I was having would stop instantly.

The "mini pill" (the one you take with no breaks) sometimes results in regular periods and sometimes results in no periods at all.  For example, on Cerazette, 4 out of 10 women find their periods stop altogether.

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« Reply #1537 on: December 23, 2013, 08:13:27 AM »
The bleed you get when you take your seven day break using the contraceptive pill isn't a period though, it's something called a "withdrawal bleed." It's sort of splitting hairs, but technically it's different from an actual menstrual period. It's possible to take any kind of contraceptive pill without a break, but not advisable - there are certain types of contraceptive pills designed specifically for that purpose.

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« Reply #1538 on: December 23, 2013, 08:34:10 AM »
I was never told all through college about the pill-and-antibiotics thing.  As it turns out, my uterus is about as fertile as a concrete sidewalk and I likely can't get pregnant without medical intervention but it would have been nice to know all those years I thought I was protected.

Sex ed in my high school (we got one hour of it, for one day, during 10th grade.  I was already sexually active by then).  Our biology teacher was 8 months pregnant but the lesson was almost right out of mean girls:  only bad, sl#tty girls have sex before marriage. 

I was also told that there are small holes in the condoms that are too small for sperm to get through but the HIV virus bits (whatever they're called) fit right through them so if you have sex with someone with HIV while wearing a condom, you are getting concentrated HIV.  We girls were scowled at and basically told to stay virgins and that we should fear the penis.

This was in the late 1990s and I'm still amazed we didn't have more teen pregnancies.


On topic - I have not (yet) been pregnant and have never heard of the heavy bleed post-birth.  Makes sense but as with everything else related to my reproduction, I was not informed at school and have had to learn via movies, TV, and Wikipedia/google.  Anything I can't get at that point gets referred to the Doc-lady.
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« Reply #1539 on: December 23, 2013, 08:43:34 AM »
This is an interesting discussion, but we have drifted a little OT.

Here's one: in the past I've had trouble with iron deficiency and had to go on liver tablets (not nice at all) until I found a good supplement to help me. This was a while ago and since then I've become a blood donor and they test your iron levels just before you donate.

My mum had a bee in her bonnet that this might be an issue in my pregnancy. I said it might, it's something to keep an eye on but I pointed out that I'd been a blood donor and am taking pregnancy vitamins that also contain iron.

Iron deficiency is common in pregnancy, I know the twins sucked a stack out of me. They do check for it though so it's not usually a huge issue. Just don't take iron supplements with tea, it stops it being absorbed fully

I never heard of that!  I know there are some drugs where you have to avoid citrus, but I never heard of tea.  Do you know what is in the tea that messes with absorption?  Does it depend on the type of tea?

I have no idea actually. My midwife knew I don't drink coffee, just tea, so I don't know if it's just tea or caffeine. And you should take iron with vit c apparently, most supplements have if added.

From what I understand, it is the tannins in tea that can cause problems. I don't think coffee has any.
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« Reply #1540 on: December 23, 2013, 09:06:44 AM »
This is an interesting discussion, but we have drifted a little OT.

Here's one: in the past I've had trouble with iron deficiency and had to go on liver tablets (not nice at all) until I found a good supplement to help me. This was a while ago and since then I've become a blood donor and they test your iron levels just before you donate.

My mum had a bee in her bonnet that this might be an issue in my pregnancy. I said it might, it's something to keep an eye on but I pointed out that I'd been a blood donor and am taking pregnancy vitamins that also contain iron.

Iron deficiency is common in pregnancy, I know the twins sucked a stack out of me. They do check for it though so it's not usually a huge issue. Just don't take iron supplements with tea, it stops it being absorbed fully

I never heard of that!  I know there are some drugs where you have to avoid citrus, but I never heard of tea.  Do you know what is in the tea that messes with absorption?  Does it depend on the type of tea?

I have no idea actually. My midwife knew I don't drink coffee, just tea, so I don't know if it's just tea or caffeine. And you should take iron with vit c apparently, most supplements have if added.

From what I understand, it is the tannins in tea that can cause problems. I don't think coffee has any.

I just did a quick google and it is the tannins in tea and coffee.  Apparently, though, for people drink a lot of tea and coffee, the effects on blocking absorption reduces.  Additionally this is only non-heme iron (heme iron comes from meat).  I think there is less tannin in coffee, so maybe coffee wouldn't disturb absorption as much as tea.

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« Reply #1541 on: December 23, 2013, 10:56:46 AM »
i am one of those lucky women who doesn't have a period whilst on the pill, and you know what, i love it!!!


on the subject of iron and tea, many years ago, i was actually put on meds by my doctor as i was borderline anaemic and when he learnt how much tea i drank daily he laughed and said "well that'd explain it".  i was doctor ordered to up my red meat intake and as much green veg as i could eat.
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Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
« Reply #1542 on: December 23, 2013, 12:18:59 PM »
This is an interesting discussion, but we have drifted a little OT.

Here's one: in the past I've had trouble with iron deficiency and had to go on liver tablets (not nice at all) until I found a good supplement to help me. This was a while ago and since then I've become a blood donor and they test your iron levels just before you donate.

My mum had a bee in her bonnet that this might be an issue in my pregnancy. I said it might, it's something to keep an eye on but I pointed out that I'd been a blood donor and am taking pregnancy vitamins that also contain iron.

Iron deficiency is common in pregnancy, I know the twins sucked a stack out of me. They do check for it though so it's not usually a huge issue. Just don't take iron supplements with tea, it stops it being absorbed fully

I never heard of that!  I know there are some drugs where you have to avoid citrus, but I never heard of tea.  Do you know what is in the tea that messes with absorption?  Does it depend on the type of tea?

I am fairly sure that those warnings are specifically about grapefruit (whole fruit or juice). Grapefruit can interfere with some medications, and can make others more potent. So it's not a simple "avoid grapefruit juice" but "if you have been taking your morning pills with grapefruit juice and decide to switch to water, milk, or some other juice, check with your doctor or pharmacist." Your current medication dosages may be based on how much you needed while taking them with grapefruit.
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« Reply #1543 on: December 23, 2013, 01:12:54 PM »
I was also told that there are small holes in the condoms that are too small for sperm to get through but the HIV virus bits (whatever they're called) fit right through them so if you have sex with someone with HIV while wearing a condom, you are getting concentrated HIV. 

Well, the 'holes that sperm don't fit through but HIV does' is true, if you're talking about lambskin condoms. Latex (and now nitrile and vinyl) condoms don't have that problem.
The 'concentrated HIV' bit is pure horse hockey, though.

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« Reply #1544 on: December 23, 2013, 02:08:34 PM »
I may have mentioned this before but when I worked retail we had a staff member who was in his 20s who when asked to clean the bathroom said I don't clean my own bathroom why would I clean the one here.  ???   My boss had him clean it every shift he was on for the next month.
He also had to be told to dilute mr clean before using.    Apparently his mother would clean for him when she came to visit::)

I absolutely dislike parents like that... isn't the whole point of parenting to turn your kids into productive members of society who can stand on their own two feet?  ???

I read a great quote the other day, and of course now I can't remember it exactly.  But it was something along the lines of, "The point isn't to raise a child.  The point is to raise an adult."  (And no, it did *not* mean that somebody still needing parenting as an adult--in fact, the point of the article was the opposite--but that if you have done your job successfully, at 18 or whatever, your daughter/son should be an adult.  You should be able to step back and watch them live their own life, which may be different from what you intend but is nevertheless their choice.)
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