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« Reply #2370 on: February 19, 2014, 02:24:34 PM »
You forgot famine due to bad weather and rabies.   ;)

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« Reply #2371 on: February 19, 2014, 03:04:19 PM »
You forgot famine due to bad weather and rabies.   ;)

Oh, and early warnings for things like tornadoes and hurricanes.
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« Reply #2372 on: February 19, 2014, 03:13:02 PM »
It reminds me of how my archaeology prof said that one of the most interesting things about Stonehenge was that it was built mostly by teenagers.

When asked to explain, he said, "Because that's what most of the population was. Probably some ancient geezer of 25 was the engineer behind it, but most of the population was dying by their early twenties."

Yeah, at that rate, you don't worry about heart attacks or cancer.
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« Reply #2373 on: February 19, 2014, 03:22:58 PM »
I think it's a myth that most people dropped dead in their twenties. Sure, some did, mostly women in childbirth, but it wasn't all that unheard of for someone to reach middle age or even what we'd call old. Infant mortality dragged down the average. That said, yeah, more people are living long enough to die of heart disease and cancer now, plus now we have the diagnostic tools to know what exactly they had. In the old days, someone would die and maybe you'd never know exactly what caused it. Just look at all the "what did he really die of? was it murder?" articles that are always being written about famous dead people of the past.

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« Reply #2374 on: February 19, 2014, 03:34:21 PM »
I think it's a myth that most people dropped dead in their twenties. Sure, some did, mostly women in childbirth, but it wasn't all that unheard of for someone to reach middle age or even what we'd call old. Infant mortality dragged down the average. That said, yeah, more people are living long enough to die of heart disease and cancer now, plus now we have the diagnostic tools to know what exactly they had. In the old days, someone would die and maybe you'd never know exactly what caused it. Just look at all the "what did he really die of? was it murder?" articles that are always being written about famous dead people of the past.

This.  "Old age" was your 60s - and if you made it past age five or so, you'd probably make it through your adulthood too.

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« Reply #2375 on: February 19, 2014, 03:50:37 PM »
I think it's a myth that most people dropped dead in their twenties. Sure, some did, mostly women in childbirth, but it wasn't all that unheard of for someone to reach middle age or even what we'd call old. Infant mortality dragged down the average. That said, yeah, more people are living long enough to die of heart disease and cancer now, plus now we have the diagnostic tools to know what exactly they had. In the old days, someone would die and maybe you'd never know exactly what caused it. Just look at all the "what did he really die of? was it murder?" articles that are always being written about famous dead people of the past.

This.  "Old age" was your 60s - and if you made it past age five or so, you'd probably make it through your adulthood too.
I'll grant you the point if you're talking about the Roman Empire or later.  It depends on your time.  Paleolithic hunter-gatherer skeletons, particularly Neanderthals, sometimes show "old age" degenerative diseases like arthritis, with skeletal development points that indicate they were only in their late 20's/early 30's at death. The female Neanderthal skeleton that Jean Auel used as her model for the character 'Iza' was like that. 
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« Reply #2376 on: February 19, 2014, 04:44:43 PM »
It reminds me of how my archaeology prof said that one of the most interesting things about Stonehenge was that it was built mostly by teenagers.

When asked to explain, he said, "Because that's what most of the population was. Probably some ancient geezer of 25 was the engineer behind it, but most of the population was dying by their early twenties."

Yeah, at that rate, you don't worry about heart attacks or cancer.

I never thought of that, but it makes sense. I visited some druid stone rings in N. Ireland, and they are amazing!

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« Reply #2377 on: February 19, 2014, 04:52:16 PM »
Childbirth made women particularly vulnerable. Has anyone read The Red Tent? Death was seen as almost a part of life, and while they were missed it seemed almost the price for bearing children.

I love the time travel Twilight Zone episodes. It is a common theme, and I think a lot of that was Serling's nostalgia. No Time Like the Past is another one, and there's two episodes where they actually escape into the simpler world. A World of Difference and A Stop at Willoughby.

I'm watching a lot of them right now to research for a game, and there are some with happy endings.  My favorites of those are I Dream of Genie and Night of the Meek.

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« Reply #2378 on: February 19, 2014, 06:53:03 PM »
When they are in court he and the prosecutor keep referring to each other as "learned", pronouncing both syllables. It cracks me up because it's sort passive-aggressive or sarcastic or whatever, but it's also because they do, in fact, have great respect for each other.

2 interesting facts for you.

1. Professionals at the bar table refer to each other as their "friend" if the person being referred to is a solicitor, and their "learned friend" if that person is a barrister.

2. For some reason, it is always pronounced "learn-ed" in this context.  Its not PA or sarcastic at all.  Its just how its done.

Oh! I just assumed it was sort of sarcastic because, well, because their tone sort of sounded that way in the movie. Probably just my interpretation. But also because Charles Laughton plays a character that is constantly spewing out sarcasm. In a funny way of course. I mean, I love that movie and Laughton's character, while gruff and sarcastic and seemingly intolerant is also incredibly smart and funny. It's one of those movies where all the characters are very well played and the plot is compelling.

Have you seen it?

I've not - perhaps I should :)

Also - having not seen it - it is possible that the speaker was being sarcastic but that would be delivered through tone, not the use of the word itself :)  Have you seen the Australian version of Rake (I believe a US one is coming)?

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« Reply #2379 on: February 19, 2014, 08:19:13 PM »
Along the lines of "things used to be better in the days," I know a girl who is convinced she'd be happier if she'd been raised in the palaeolithic. She's sure that it was  idyllic utopia with no social problems because people were living naturally. All illnesses could be cured by natural herbs and anyway, don't you know that most diseases like cancer are cured solely by our unnatural modern lifestyle? ::)

She's so sensible in other ways that I'm baffled.

If she's ever taken antibiotics, she should know that the infection may otherwise have killed her. My Dad knew a boy who scratched a pimple and died of blood poisoning because penicillin wasn't readily available. Surviving cuts and abrasions would not be that easy.

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« Reply #2380 on: February 19, 2014, 08:20:34 PM »
I recommend Stephen King's book 11/22/63 for an interesting take on how to use one's current knowledge to survive in the past.   His view on gambling while knowing the outcome of certain sporting events was cool.

Kinda but not really and with a spin, "Off to be the wizard" by Scott Meyer.
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Boy uses program to manipulate time and space. Boy gets in trouble. Boy flees back in time to Medieval England to live as a wizard while he tries to think of a way to fix things. Boy gets in more trouble.

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Off to Be the Wizard is a light, comedic novel about computers, time travel, and human stupidity, written by Scott Meyer, the creator of the internationally known comic strip Basic Instructions.

See also: the Lord Conrad series by Leo Frankowski.  A modern guy (from the 90s) from Poland is sent back through time to medieval Poland.  Pretty good series!

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« Reply #2381 on: February 19, 2014, 08:43:01 PM »
Along the lines of "things used to be better in the days," I know a girl who is convinced she'd be happier if she'd been raised in the palaeolithic. She's sure that it was  idyllic utopia with no social problems because people were living naturally. All illnesses could be cured by natural herbs and anyway, don't you know that most diseases like cancer are cured solely by our unnatural modern lifestyle? ::)

She's so sensible in other ways that I'm baffled.

If she's ever taken antibiotics, she should know that the infection may otherwise have killed her. My Dad knew a boy who scratched a pimple and died of blood poisoning because penicillin wasn't readily available. Surviving cuts and abrasions would not be that easy.
Also tetanus, aka lockjaw.  My mother had a classmate who died of tetanus. 
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« Reply #2382 on: February 19, 2014, 08:58:23 PM »
It all makes me wonder what people in a hundred years will be saying about the barbaric early 21st century, when people actually used to die of cancer/road accidents/AIDS, and only lived til they were in their 80s, usually.

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« Reply #2383 on: February 19, 2014, 09:36:55 PM »
True, too true. Like seeing the doctors in Star Trek when they travel back to the 20th Century.

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« Reply #2384 on: February 19, 2014, 09:38:38 PM »
This lovely time travel tangent is also reminding me of Julian May's series of novels in which some people from earth's future take a one way trip back to the Pliocene era, assuming they'll have the place pretty much to themselves (apart from their fellow time travellers and the native wildlife). It doesn't quite work out how they expect. It was a fascinating series.