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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #795 on: April 04, 2014, 09:21:08 AM »
I am having a *squee* moment right now.  A friend who knits is making me two pairs of heavy wool socks that are double thick.  In exchange I am restructuring two suit jackets to tailor them to her after a 40 pound weight loss.  The jackets are being recycled basically for material as I am taking them apart and remaking them.  I plan on making a pattern for these jackets as I take it apart so that I can maybe make one for my mom out of some of the wool from my stash.

Yes, we are quite happy about the exchange in labor.  (runs away to get her ever so nifty seam ripper)

This^?  Is how it is supposed to work.   :)

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« Reply #796 on: April 04, 2014, 09:42:57 AM »
My Mom crochets baby blankets, she only knows how to make blankets because she can't follow patterns.  She makes a lot of them over the winter when she is bored and she is very happy to give them away,  We always have a stash of baby shower presents , so we all love it.  When she gets a lot of excess we have donated them, the local women's shelter and a crisis nursery both love to get them since she makes them with washable yarn.  The problem comes up when people ask for very specific yarn to be used.  She will make them in any color you want, but she only uses a less expensive yarn.  People just don't get why it's wrong to ask her to buy $60-70 worth of yarn for their blanket and they never offer to pay since they have never paid in the past!  They seem insulted when she says "bring me the yarn and I'll make the blanket".

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« Reply #797 on: April 04, 2014, 09:46:21 AM »
I'm happy to make stuff out of my 'stash' for minimal return.  But if you want a specific colour and/or type of yarn?  You buy it and I'll make it.

A coworker wanted a sweater for his daughter.  We went together at lunch and he bought the yarn.  I made the sweater.  It was such a simple pattern, it only took me a couple of weeks.  I brought it in and he asked me what he could give me for the knitting.  I told him I liked rum.  ;D
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« Reply #798 on: April 04, 2014, 10:31:42 AM »
I'm happy to make stuff out of my 'stash' for minimal return.  But if you want a specific colour and/or type of yarn?  You buy it and I'll make it.

A coworker wanted a sweater for his daughter.  We went together at lunch and he bought the yarn.  I made the sweater.  It was such a simple pattern, it only took me a couple of weeks.  I brought it in and he asked me what he could give me for the knitting.  I told him I liked rum.  ;D

Yes, that is an awesome exchange.  My older sister now knows why I laughed hysterically when she asked me to make her a beaded brocade vest (back when vests were cool for women) and generously offered me the $40 she would pay for one of similar quality at the store. Only there was a problem.  The one in the store was thin printed cotton with plastic buttons and a tie in the back.  The one she wanted was this (the red one three pictures down) http://onedelightfulday.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/18th-century-vests-for-sale-on-my-etsy-shop/   only with a bit more embellishment.

I took her to the fabric store.  She got very quiet once she picked out her fabric and took a look at the price per yard.  The pattern I would be modifying cost $20.

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« Reply #799 on: April 04, 2014, 12:21:50 PM »
It seems like there are two kinds of people in the world. 

Those who understand the skill, time and money it takes to make great crafts are likely to appreciate the prices asked for these objects.  Unfortunately, those who understand are often able to make these objects themselves and don't have to pay retail prices. 

The other sort are those who equate 'craft' with the Elmer's Glue and macaroni projects made in the first grade for Mother's Day gifts.  These folks think that anything over 10 dollars is way out of line for something that someone has made at home in their spare time. After all, it's just a hobby, isn't it?

I feel for artisans because finding a market for the things they produce can be very difficult.       

 

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« Reply #800 on: April 04, 2014, 12:28:35 PM »
My husband and I visit a few juried shows every year and a fewer higher end craft fairs.  We are looking for specific and are willing to pay for craftsmanship.  There is a woman that I buy a quilt frm every year, she always offer to give me a discount .. but honestly she doesn't charge enough as it is.  Other people fuss about how $$$ they are.... so ... go to walmart and get a cheap one.

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« Reply #801 on: April 04, 2014, 12:39:34 PM »
Thipu-


You got it!  As a piano teacher, I get the "oh, music is SOO hard!  And then teaching it?!  Praises unto you!  That is so much work and a gift and a skill!"

or,
"well, why is my child not progressing?  You mean they have to practice regularly, not just go to lessons once a week?  All it is is pressing a few keys, once they can read the notes, what else is there?"

Yikes.  mostly I get the first ones.  :)
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« Reply #802 on: April 04, 2014, 01:06:19 PM »
"well, why is my child not progressing?  You mean they have to practice regularly, not just go to lessons once a week?  All it is is pressing a few keys, once they can read the notes, what else is there?"

Snarky me would be all "well, you tell me, it's your kid! my other students are usually lining up their first gig at the opera by now!".  ::)

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« Reply #803 on: April 04, 2014, 01:11:31 PM »
It seems like there are two kinds of people in the world. 

Those who understand the skill, time and money it takes to make great crafts are likely to appreciate the prices asked for these objects.  Unfortunately, those who understand are often able to make these objects themselves and don't have to pay retail prices. 

The other sort are those who equate 'craft' with the Elmer's Glue and macaroni projects made in the first grade for Mother's Day gifts.  These folks think that anything over 10 dollars is way out of line for something that someone has made at home in their spare time. After all, it's just a hobby, isn't it?

I feel for artisans because finding a market for the things they produce can be very difficult.       

So true... and is this the source of the thought that handmade is less expensive? So many people think someone sews/beads/woodworks/etc. because it saves money. I know I've seen that mindset throughout my life. From building computers and making chocolate from the bean, DH and I know that making something is definitely *not* cheaper than buying it!

I think the difference between classic 'craft' and common 'craft' has been blurred, too. It has diminished the value of true craft and true craftsmanship so we no longer appreciate the practice or learning that have gone into a top-notch calligrapher, master woodworker, baker, or photographer.

I suspect it is even worse when people don't even recognize the skill, but just think it is a hobby, KWIM? Like taking advantage of a baker because, well, everybody's grandma bakes! It's not like it's that big of a deal.... so-and-so just really likes to do it. Or 'his photography can't be worth that much-- I can take pictures, too!', 'I don't need a calligrapher, my cousin bought a pen set and can write fancy.'


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« Reply #804 on: April 04, 2014, 01:23:20 PM »
So true... and is this the source of the thought that handmade is less expensive? So many people think someone sews/beads/woodworks/etc. because it saves money. I know I've seen that mindset throughout my life. From building computers and making chocolate from the bean, DH and I know that making something is definitely *not* cheaper than buying it!

I think the difference between classic 'craft' and common 'craft' has been blurred, too. It has diminished the value of true craft and true craftsmanship so we no longer appreciate the practice or learning that have gone into a top-notch calligrapher, master woodworker, baker, or photographer.

I suspect it is even worse when people don't even recognize the skill, but just think it is a hobby, KWIM? Like taking advantage of a baker because, well, everybody's grandma bakes! It's not like it's that big of a deal.... so-and-so just really likes to do it. Or 'his photography can't be worth that much-- I can take pictures, too!', 'I don't need a calligrapher, my cousin bought a pen set and can write fancy.'

For the people who do not respect what I do and have such a dismissive attitude I tell them that they are more than welcome to do it themselves since it is so easy.

Yes, some things I do are easy.  Making liqueurs is pretty much dumping stuff in vodka or brandy and remembering which ones have to sit and which ones nee movement, then there is tedious straining and proper bottling.  Some friends scoffed at the whole thing while snarfing down homemade vanilla bean ice cream on top of a homemade double chocolate brownie topped off with a brandied cherry sauce (homemade).  He was invited to host a meal at his home serving the exact same meal that I had just made and I would even provide the recipes that I used.  Until then he would not have one sliver of anything that I had made cross his lips.

Still waiting on that.

When he comes over he gets generic snacks and drinks while everyone else gets what I have made that day.  Yes, I am that petty.  It was the last straw from him scoffing at anything homemade.


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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #805 on: April 04, 2014, 01:30:06 PM »
So true... and is this the source of the thought that handmade is less expensive? So many people think someone sews/beads/woodworks/etc. because it saves money. I know I've seen that mindset throughout my life. From building computers and making chocolate from the bean, DH and I know that making something is definitely *not* cheaper than buying it!

I think the difference between classic 'craft' and common 'craft' has been blurred, too. It has diminished the value of true craft and true craftsmanship so we no longer appreciate the practice or learning that have gone into a top-notch calligrapher, master woodworker, baker, or photographer.

I suspect it is even worse when people don't even recognize the skill, but just think it is a hobby, KWIM? Like taking advantage of a baker because, well, everybody's grandma bakes! It's not like it's that big of a deal.... so-and-so just really likes to do it. Or 'his photography can't be worth that much-- I can take pictures, too!', 'I don't need a calligrapher, my cousin bought a pen set and can write fancy.'

For the people who do not respect what I do and have such a dismissive attitude I tell them that they are more than welcome to do it themselves since it is so easy.

Yes, some things I do are easy.  Making liqueurs is pretty much dumping stuff in vodka or brandy and remembering which ones have to sit and which ones nee movement, then there is tedious straining and proper bottling.  Some friends scoffed at the whole thing while snarfing down homemade vanilla bean ice cream on top of a homemade double chocolate brownie topped off with a brandied cherry sauce (homemade).  He was invited to host a meal at his home serving the exact same meal that I had just made and I would even provide the recipes that I used.  Until then he would not have one sliver of anything that I had made cross his lips.

Still waiting on that.

When he comes over he gets generic snacks and drinks while everyone else gets what I have made that day.  Yes, I am that petty.  It was the last straw from him scoffing at anything homemade.

I have to know - what is his reaction to that?

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« Reply #806 on: April 04, 2014, 01:47:41 PM »
Copious amounts of pouting.  I told him that when his praise level reaches the same level that his dismissiveness and snark reached that I will welcome him back as a full guest.  He definitely had cat butt face when I gave him the pages and pages of copied recipes with handwritten amendments and comments that he would have to follow to make the meal that we had just had.

We have the type of relationship where this works.  Most other people would get a polite smile and no future invites.  He's been my friend for about 25 years and I know that sometimes he needs a good smack in the attitude to get him back level.

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« Reply #807 on: April 04, 2014, 02:21:22 PM »
Family is going camping this weekend, and DD is the quartermaster for her Venturing Crew, meaning she is buying the food supplies.

She wrote a good meal plan,
and then DH suggested the yummy chocolate and coffee energy bars with protein powder added, and chopped nuts that I make from scratch.  (for a travel grab-and go breakfast, and perhaps for dessert at dinner)

Umm, have you priced nuts lately?  And protein powder? 

Let alone, the time it takes to make them?  (They have to cool before you add the choco and then coffee drizzle)

But...I was not called to sub today and decided that I did have most of the ingredients (from a good sale not too long ago) so now my house smells like a bakery and coffee shop. 

I should get paid for NOT eating them now!

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before you ask, here is the recipe-

http://tinaschic.com/2014/02/coffee-chocolate-chip-cookie-bars/

(I add protein powder to the cookie bar mix, reducing the flour content jsut a bit, and sprinkle chopped pecans to the top of the bar before baking)

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #808 on: April 04, 2014, 03:46:54 PM »
Re. the price of materials:

I mostly buy chart books and leaflets for cross-stitching now to placate DH because they're cheaper, but really it'd probably cost less in the long run if I bought complete kits than the materials piecemeal.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #809 on: April 04, 2014, 03:57:01 PM »
Once upon a time, a long time ago (okay, maybe six years or so) I went to an art show with my friend, Ellen.  Another friend was showing her oil paintings in the show, so we were going to show support.  Artist friend is a professional artist-masters in fine arts, free lance art director working with a very well-known publisher, the whole nine yards.  Her landscape paintings reflect real talent, as well as literally decades of experience.  Her work is priced accordingly.  Ellen?  Couldn't believe someone would try to charge so much for a canvas and some paint, seeing what they cost at Michael's. 

I did bend her ear back just a bit about hand-stretched canvases and good paints versus the cheaper brands, not to mention the time that goes into just one painting, but I don't think she really cared.  You can buy what my old art teacher called "sofa art" for next to nothing and that's what it should cost, dontchya know?  Really my opinion of Ellen went way, way down that day.

Recently we had an opportunity to take a craft class together and she was very interested.  She wants to make that particular craft to save some money over buying them at the store-scented candles.  I wish we had been able to take the class because maybe it would be another eye-opener for her.  Maybe buying the ingredients to make the occasional candle is going to be cheaper than buying a Yankee candle on sale at Bed, Bath & Beyond, but not by much.