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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #915 on: May 28, 2014, 04:38:11 PM »
So yeah, I don't expect anyone who sews to 'whip up' anything for me 'just for fun'. I know it's their amazing patience and skill that make it only look easy. :)

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you.

I work in fashion as a technical designer for a large company. Which actually means that I do NOT sew for work. I have 70-100 styles to manage every season, and 4 seasons in a year. People sew for me.

I also sew burner costumes as well as my own clothing. I will offer up my sewing machine to friends who want to mend their own clothing & I will teach them how to use my machine (selecting needs/thread/stitch tension/etc), but the only people I sew for are myself, my beloved, and people who pay me in some way (and not a token payment either. An actual even barter).  I have several times had people do that casual breezy "oh, you can just fix this thing for me real quick" thing (usually the kind of people who make the 'favor' even more entertaining by saying something like "you can stop by my place & pick this up for me & then drop it off again, right?") but my steely stare followed by an extremely calm "I can teach you how to fix it, but I won't be able to fix it unless you pay me" stops all but the most persistent immediately.

The other is piano playing. When I was younger, I was super-good at playing the piano. I did weddings, funerals, other events. I haven't played seriously in about ten years. I bought a really nice keyboard for myself for Christmas, because I wanted to take it up again. Sadly, I currently can't because of a neck/nerve problem. I've several times had people learn about my playing by either seeing the keyboard, or hearing someone else refer to me being able to play and then say how they'd love to have someone come play at their party/kid's party/etc. Always for free, of course. Even if my skills were up to snuff, I don't play for free, and I don't even know if I'd accept any gigs, because my whole reason for getting back into playing was more my enjoyment only. I really have no interest in playing for anybody except maybe & maybe my closest friends.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #916 on: June 19, 2014, 09:34:36 AM »
I have two good friends.  One does private math tutoring and has a BS in Math.  She was telling me about the number of people who try to get the "friend's" discount from her.  She is very firm with her prices.

The second has 12 years of graphic design business working for a major sports team.  She has two small childred and is starting an at home design business for birthday cards, posters, flyers, game, Tshirts, anything really.  She is working hard to set her prices and avoid the "friend's discount" conversations as well.

It happens everywhere.  I know you, so you should give it to me cheaply or free.
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« Reply #917 on: June 19, 2014, 11:16:40 AM »
It might be easier- and still true- to tell people that the price they were quoted IS the friend's price. If they ask what the 'regular' charge is, tell them, and let them come to their own conclusion.  ;)

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #918 on: June 19, 2014, 03:08:52 PM »
It might be easier- and still true- to tell people that the price they were quoted IS the friend's price. If they ask what the 'regular' charge is, tell them, and let them come to their own conclusion.  ;)

That's an interesting idea. Some people charge a PITA price for awful customers. You could say you are charging a 'friend' price and your enemy price is only for people who are a bother. "Don't make me hate you!"
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #919 on: June 19, 2014, 03:32:49 PM »
It might be easier- and still true- to tell people that the price they were quoted IS the friend's price. If they ask what the 'regular' charge is, tell them, and let them come to their own conclusion.  ;)

Right. I either charge full price, or for a very few people, for small jobs, it's free. (To a first approximation, if I've never spent the night in your home, you don't get the freebies.)
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #920 on: June 19, 2014, 05:10:43 PM »
It might be easier- and still true- to tell people that the price they were quoted IS the friend's price. If they ask what the 'regular' charge is, tell them, and let them come to their own conclusion.  ;)

That's an interesting idea. Some people charge a PITA price for awful customers. You could say you are charging a 'friend' price and your enemy price is only for people who are a bother. "Don't make me hate you!"

Why am I seeing & hearing Bill Bixby (Incredible Hulk TV show - he was Dr. Banner) making this comment?

As to who might "get it free" - we share significant DNA overlap - parent, sibling, child, grandkid, we are married to each other, or you are a parent, sibling, or really close relative of the spouse.  Let me think about it...
« Last Edit: June 19, 2014, 05:14:53 PM by VorFemme »
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #921 on: June 19, 2014, 05:18:33 PM »
It might be easier- and still true- to tell people that the price they were quoted IS the friend's price. If they ask what the 'regular' charge is, tell them, and let them come to their own conclusion.  ;)

That's an interesting idea. Some people charge a PITA price for awful customers. You could say you are charging a 'friend' price and your enemy price is only for people who are a bother. "Don't make me hate you!"

Why am I seeing & hearing Bill Bixby (Incredible Hulk TV show - he was Dr. Banner) making this comment?

As to who might "get it free" - we share significant DNA overlap - parent, sibling, child, grandkid, we are married to each other, or you are a parent, sibling, or really close relative of the spouse.  Let me think about it...

Hehe. That's even better. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like my prices if I'm angry!"
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #922 on: June 19, 2014, 06:58:00 PM »
My standard quip, which gets a laugh and the point across, is "The family rate is double."

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #923 on: June 19, 2014, 07:47:41 PM »
I can't remember if I've mentioned this one.

Someone on a list has a "free" family rate.

It sits in her house until she is "free" to do it.  Depending on how much she likes that particular type of project, it might be a week, a month, a year, two years,...or much, much longer.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #924 on: June 20, 2014, 02:04:42 AM »
I can't remember if I mentioned this one.

A local requested free tech support because her computer was broken and her normal technician was expensive - and, she told me, she knew I did PCs as a hobby ::) . I was annoyed, but cringed at the price she mentioned, decided the tech was price-gouging and helped her out. I spent four hours cleaning off viruses and left her with a working PC. A week later I got a screaming phone call: her computer didn't work, I'd obviously done something to it, etc, despite the fact it had been working fine. I went round, rather than have her start banging on my door, and took a large friend in case of problems.

It wasn't the computer. She'd had an electrician in. We fixed the rather predictable problem, got a huffy comment of "How should she know that?" (perhaps the light switches should have been a clue...), and quietly set her rate for future help to "money-grubbing consultant". We suspect this was what her previous technician had done.

But I honestly thought complaining to technicians that a computer didn't work during a power cut only happens in tech legends. Now, I can say I lived it.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #925 on: June 20, 2014, 08:08:42 AM »
I can't remember if I mentioned this one.

A local requested free tech support because her computer was broken and her normal technician was expensive - and, she told me, she knew I did PCs as a hobby ::) . I was annoyed, but cringed at the price she mentioned, decided the tech was price-gouging and helped her out. I spent four hours cleaning off viruses and left her with a working PC. A week later I got a screaming phone call: her computer didn't work, I'd obviously done something to it, etc, despite the fact it had been working fine. I went round, rather than have her start banging on my door, and took a large friend in case of problems.

It wasn't the computer. She'd had an electrician in. We fixed the rather predictable problem, got a huffy comment of "How should she know that?" (perhaps the light switches should have been a clue...), and quietly set her rate for future help to "money-grubbing consultant". We suspect this was what her previous technician had done.

But I honestly thought complaining to technicians that a computer didn't work during a power cut only happens in tech legends. Now, I can say I lived it.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #926 on: June 20, 2014, 08:10:15 AM »
I'm thinking this could go in the cheapstake thread or here.

Friend worked with me, very immature for her age and her parents supported her lavish lifestyle on a minimum wage income. Parents were nice, but this was their baby.

Friend had an old computer, a Gateway desktop, and it had stopped running. Her pet rat had eaten cables at some point, so that didn't help. We ordered the replacement hardware, and were waiting for it to come in when I had a spinal epidural procedure that resulted in my not being alert or able to drive, and the parents called during that time. Demanding that we fix friend's computer and how dare we charge her so much.

We only charged her the cost of the hardware. Because it was more than we could outlay at the time. I never fixed another thing for her again.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #927 on: June 29, 2014, 07:08:37 PM »
Just realized I never updated this thread with my pastries stories.

She actually overpaid me. I felt kind of bad for my doubts :)

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #928 on: July 13, 2014, 05:55:25 PM »
Oh my goodness!  My crazed coworker is at it again!

She got a bad case of poison ivy and the treatment she used left her skin very dry/scaly.  At work, I offered her some of my handmade lotion because she didn't have any lotion at her desk.  She thanked me, and that was it.  I never told her she could continue using it or anything.  I come in the next day, and another coworker says to me, "Hey, I used some of your pink lotion!  *Coworker* told me you let her use some of it the other day - it's great!".  Uh, not really cool, but whatever.  Later that day, Crazy Coworker comes over to talk to Another Coworker.  As Crazy Coworker is talking, she casually reaches down, grabs my lotion, squirts a HUGE glob of it onto her hand, and also onto Another Coworker's hand!  Just like it's no big deal.  I said, "Hey guys, what's up?  Why'd you take my lotion?".  Crazy Coworker says, "This is the lotion we like the best!".  I say, "Well, you've almost run me out - that's all I had of that lotion".  Crazy Coworker says, "Well, then you need to make us some more.  This is the one we like!".  I didn't really say anything to that, just turned back around and kept working.  However, that night I brought all my lotions home with me. 

Nobody's mentioned anything so far, but we'll see.  Unless I give the lotion to you, doesn't it make sense to ask before assuming you can use something of mine whenever you want? 

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #929 on: July 13, 2014, 05:59:27 PM »
Oh my goodness!  My crazed coworker is at it again!

She got a bad case of poison ivy and the treatment she used left her skin very dry/scaly.  At work, I offered her some of my handmade lotion because she didn't have any lotion at her desk.  She thanked me, and that was it.  I never told her she could continue using it or anything.  I come in the next day, and another coworker says to me, "Hey, I used some of your pink lotion!  *Coworker* told me you let her use some of it the other day - it's great!".  Uh, not really cool, but whatever.  Later that day, Crazy Coworker comes over to talk to Another Coworker.  As Crazy Coworker is talking, she casually reaches down, grabs my lotion, squirts a HUGE glob of it onto her hand, and also onto Another Coworker's hand!  Just like it's no big deal.  I said, "Hey guys, what's up?  Why'd you take my lotion?".  Crazy Coworker says, "This is the lotion we like the best!".  I say, "Well, you've almost run me out - that's all I had of that lotion".  Crazy Coworker says, "Well, then you need to make us some more.  This is the one we like!".  I didn't really say anything to that, just turned back around and kept working.  However, that night I brought all my lotions home with me. 

Nobody's mentioned anything so far, but we'll see.  Unless I give the lotion to you, doesn't it make sense to ask before assuming you can use something of mine whenever you want?

Well, not that I've ever done it, but I can see someone making the mistake of thinking that was a blanket invitation to continue using it (at work, I could see others making that same mistake, including me).  I don't know what I would've said in your last exchange so I think taking them home was the best option.