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#### jedikaiti

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #135 on: June 26, 2013, 01:21:59 PM »

Years ago, when I was in my 20s, healthy and hearty and young, my sister tried to talk me into HAVING A BABY for a young couple in her church, who couldn't have children of their own.
[for the record, we come from excellent baby-making stock]
I had no objections to that part of it, but I wanted money for it, for the doctor's bills, and for the 'rental' of my body for nine months!  (I was dirt poor at the time and struggling)  She thought I was horrible and should do it for free.

Why didn't she do it?  She was still a minor.

Yeah. That didn't happen.

What part of v_e = \sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}} don't you understand? It's only rocket science!

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #136 on: June 26, 2013, 01:29:36 PM »
I am to the point where any time to craft is luxury, so I spend that time doing what I want.

I used to make jewelry for female family members, but after my mom broke her third piece in a row because she couldn't leave it be and kept tugging on the ends to make them lay right  , I no longer make jewelry gifts for anyone but one friend. I make pieces on commission, but only during my 7 weeks out of school per year.
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#### Hillia

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #137 on: June 26, 2013, 01:36:35 PM »
I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.

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« Reply #138 on: June 26, 2013, 01:38:15 PM »
I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.

No. I honestly expect people to back down when I quote them a price, based on past experience. It's kind of a nice surprise when someone actually agrees to it.

#### Jocelyn

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #139 on: June 26, 2013, 01:49:45 PM »
I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.
I would not be offended. I know that a lot of people may innocently underestimate the cost of materials and the number of hours. So long as they didn't imply that the work wasn't worth it.  I mean, if you say you can't afford it right now, there's always the possibility that you could afford it in the future. And how could I take it personally that you'd rather pay your utilities bill?

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #140 on: June 26, 2013, 01:55:11 PM »
I would not be offended, people underestimate the costs of all my crafts, with jewelry especially as metal and precious stone prices change daily. With cakes, it is an hour or two to bake it, then an hour to start decorating plus any additional embellishment. I would prefer to be turned down rather than have someone back out when I have invested  and time in a project.
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#### Lynn2000

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #141 on: June 26, 2013, 02:04:03 PM »
I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.

I think that would be a perfectly polite interaction (bearing in mind tone, exact wording, etc.). I think the offense comes when someone draws back in horror at the suggested price and then says/implies that the work isn't actually worth that and the crafter must be inflating numbers, and says that their daughter's babysitter's mom's dog-walker could do it for less--or Wal-Mart.

I think the cycle of homemade vs. commercial products is really interesting. At one point it was the norm to make everything yourself, and only wealthy people could afford to have something that was manufactured--a "store-bought" dress instead of the one Mom made for you. Then it switched to where manufactured goods were cheaper, and the homemade things were expensive luxuries. Yet when I was a kid, even though manufactured goods were actually quite cheap, it was for some reason considered "low class" if your mom made your clothes, so people had the perception that homemade was done to save money, I guess.
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#### Elfmama

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #142 on: June 26, 2013, 02:04:29 PM »
I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.
It would depend on your tone of voice, I think. (Assuming face-to-face interaction.)  If I felt that you were trying to wheedle me down to substantially less than that, I might be offended.

Online, no.  I've done just that scenario.  Someone wanted a quilt for a California king bed and inquired if I'd take a commission.  After he got told that the fabric would cost $X and the batting would be$Y, so the total for just supplies would be $Z, he apologized and said that it was more than he was thinking of. I think that would be a perfectly polite interaction (bearing in mind tone, exact wording, etc.). I think the offense comes when someone draws back in horror at the suggested price and then says/implies that the work isn't actually worth that and the crafter must be inflating numbers, and says that their daughter's babysitter's mom's dog-walker could do it for less--or Wal-Mart. Exactly. "You want HOW MUCH for a quilt? I can buy one at Walmart for$30!"  Well, yes, you can.  Some woman in China was probably grateful to get $.25 an hour for her work. But it won't be appliqued in the patterns that you want, with the fabrics that you choose. I see lovely quilts at the Amish Market in Annapolis. And I think that$800 is too little for their work.
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#### Outdoor Girl

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #143 on: June 26, 2013, 02:07:34 PM »
I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.

Wouldn't bother me at all.  You aren't saying that my work isn't worth that much; you are just telling me that it was more than you thought it would be and it isn't in the budget.
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#### Free Range Hippy Chick

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #144 on: June 26, 2013, 02:15:49 PM »
I got around that one once by saying sadly 'yes, I was afraid it would be more than I could afford, but it's so beautiful that I had to ask,' and honour was satisfied on both sides.

#### Hillia

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##### Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #145 on: June 26, 2013, 02:20:38 PM »
I got around that one once by saying sadly 'yes, I was afraid it would be more than I could afford, but it's so beautiful that I had to ask,' and honour was satisfied on both sides.

What a lovely example of tact!

#### Amara

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« Reply #146 on: June 26, 2013, 02:30:39 PM »
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I have a question for the crafters: Suppose I were to approach you and ask, 'Would you be interested in doing <commission>?  What would you charge?'  And after hearing the charge, I said, 'Oh my, I had no idea...I'm afraid I can't afford this right now'.  Would you be offended by this exchange? I'm not saying that your time and skill aren't worth the price, more that I didn't know what that price was and now that I know, it's just out of my budget.

I'd be flattered that you were interested in my work, and I'd appreciate the fact that you respected my work enough to realize its worth. (You can always save up for it. )

#### siamesecat2965

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« Reply #147 on: June 26, 2013, 02:36:27 PM »
I'm glad to hear all you crafters say that since there are a couple of people who a. I know do different things and b. charge for them, but was afraid to ask knowing that it might be more than i could afford to pay.  One is a HS classmate who is a fantastic artist. I think she's done b&w sketches (not sure if that's the right term or not) from photos, and I have a photo of my dad I would LOVE to have done for my mom.

But I'm afraid she might charge more than I can afford and then I'd be embarassed to say sorry, i can't do it.

#### Peregrine

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« Reply #148 on: June 26, 2013, 03:36:22 PM »
BTDT....I have been sewing since I was 5 years old.  I also have spent a lot of time working retail jobs in fabric stores.  I have a degree in urban planning and environmental law, but enjoy the more creative work and chance to indulge my hobbies while I'm actually earning some money, plus it's a job that I can drift in and out of since my DH's job takes us on frequent long term travel.

I have had more people try to commission me to do sewing work.....The one that took the cake was the lady who came in with a picture of a Giorgio Armani (tailored and embellished) coat and wanted someone to make a knockoff of it for her.  I kept a stack of business cards on hand of local seamstresses who did that kind of work, and upon receiving the card, said that she had already checked with the person and they wanted too much for the work.  Out of curiosity I asked what the price quote was (\$500 including materials) and was quite pleasantly surprised at the reasonableness.

The customer then asked what I would charge I told her materials alone were likely to run a couple hundred, and my hourly rates....she was not amused and told me that I should be happy to make it for her at cost, since it would be free advertising for my employer.    When I declined she implied that a little nobody like me couldn't possibly have anything else going for me in my life but my skills at sewing, so I should be honored.   My boss informed the twit of my educational background as well as my credentials in sewing and tailoring and that the customer would be better off taking her business elsewhere.  (the woman had been a long term problem customer)

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« Reply #149 on: June 26, 2013, 03:52:48 PM »
I'm reminded of the old letter to Ann Landers about "I called my nephew over in the middle of the night, since he's a brand new doctor. He had the gall to send me a bill later! He should be thankful for the free practice experience we're providing him."