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purplerainbow

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #450 on: October 04, 2013, 04:08:42 AM »
I admit, I am more often the asker, than the skilled person.  :-[ But I am always grateful!

My sister makes amazing brownies. Gooey-centred, yummy chocolate brownies. For my 18th birthday, I can't remember if I asked or if she offered, but she made me a batch to take into school to give to my friends. They were awesome... although my 18th birthday was during Lent, so not many people had one because they'd given up chocolate. But at least that meant there were some left over for my family later on.  :) I did thank her, of course!

Last year, my laptop wouldn't work. I couldn't log on, and it would spend actual HOURS on the "please wait" loading screen.  :( So my mum said she would ask her colleague, who knows about computers/IT, if he would take a look at it, instead of me taking it somewhere and paying money. I gratefully agreed to this, and the colleague took it home with him. My laptop also got passed on to his son, who is a major computer geek. (I say this in tones of admiration - I bow down to computer geeks!)
I was so, so grateful when they returned it working again! But I didn't pester, and I would have been perfectly willing to pay some computer repair shop to do the work if my mum's colleague and his son hadn't been willing/able to do it. The way I saw it, they were doing me a HUGE favour, that they didn't have to do.

I just don't get peoples' sense of entitlement when it comes to freebies/favours/jobs etc. "I want xyz done exactly with abc, and I need it for tomorrow!" without so much as a please or thank you, or consideration.
Some people have told me in the past that I say "thank you" a lot - too much, even. But the way I see it, if someone's doing me a favour, then why wouldn't I thank them?  :o

I had a friend at uni who was studying Computer Science (I think that was it), and was fairly good at programming. As such, he (along with a couple of other computer-geek friends) became the default go-to guy if someone's laptop had a problem. If he felt you were abusing his kindness (or even if you were a good enough friend and he just fancied the kicks and giggles), he'd sometimes set your homepage to something explicit (I know, not really e-hell approved).
I once went for months without noticing, because he'd done it on IE, whereas I'd started using Google Chrome. Only found out because my housemate wanted to look something up on the internet and used IE!  :D  :P
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #451 on: October 04, 2013, 08:02:38 AM »
Don't feel embarrassed, purplerainbow! Asking isn't always wrong, as long as the askee defers to a few simple rules (which I'm sure you do :) )

1. Realize that you're asking a favour and depending on the craft a pretty significant one at that.
2. Offer to pay for the item or at the very least reimburse the material used.
3. Be sufficiently grateful.
4. Gushing is not required but always appreciated ;)

I'm a knitter, and I LOVE knitting things for my sisters and their kids. I don't mind at all when they ask if I'll knit them something because they follow all 4 rules mentioned above. My oldest niece (age 8 at the time) asked me if I'd knit her a pair of fingerless mittens - I finished them the morning of my other sister's wedding, and not only did she put them on straight away, she didn't want to take them off at all during the ceremony! (her mother did make her take them off as she performed her duties as a flowergirl though ;) ). My oldest nephew asked me to knit him a dragon hat and loved it so much that when he outgrew it, he asked me if I would make it bigger... and then postponed getting his head shaved until I'd finished, because his mother told him he could only shave it if he promised to wear a hat whenever he went outside, and he wanted to wear the one I was fixing :)

Stuff like that warms a knitter's heart... and it warms a knitting aunt's heart even more! My nieblings will always be knitworthy as long as they treat my knitwear like that :)
 
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #452 on: October 04, 2013, 08:33:10 AM »
On the same theme, but from the asker's POV...the person doing the favor gets to set the parameters (within reason) of how and when the favor is done.  If you don't like those conditions, don't ask.

DH and I have done 2 interstate moves in the past 3 years.  Both times, his father has offered to come help, drive a truck, etc.  We've declined with thanks both times, because FIL has very definite ideas of How Things Should Be Done, and they are quite different from ours (OK, mine - DH is a go-along guy).  He refuses to drive over 50 on the highway, for example, and I can imagine that would slow down even more driving a moving van.  He works at a very slow, deliberate pace, with frequent diversions, and takes shortcuts.  And he gets very sullen and PA if you don't do things exactly the way he envisions them.  No thank you.

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« Reply #453 on: October 04, 2013, 11:05:42 AM »
I finally got around to clearing out some of the backlog of sewing favors this past week.  I re-hemmed 18 pairs of pants, sewed on 7 buttons, fixed 3 sleeve rips, and 3 pocket rips.  Some of these things have been up there for months waiting for me to get around to it.  I still have to line 2 skirts and take in a dress.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #454 on: October 04, 2013, 11:48:36 AM »
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I just don't get peoples' sense of entitlement when it comes to freebies/favours/jobs etc. "I want xyz done exactly with abc, and I need it for tomorrow!" without so much as a please or thank you, or consideration.

Oh, so you've met my MIL, then?  Her "requests" to my husband (her son) are usually worded thusly:  "I need some more business cards.  They should say (Blah), and I have to have them by the end of the week."   I'm always dying to say sweetly "There's a Kinkos down the street, and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to accommodate you."

(In case you're wondering, my husband isn't a printer by trade.  He's a database administrator for Big Blue.  The fact that we have a decent printer and the technical know-how to print business cards apparently means that he will do them for his mother for free, without a single please or thank-you.)

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« Reply #455 on: October 04, 2013, 05:23:30 PM »
I never thought it would happen to me, but it did today.

I can't knit. I've tried, and the simplest scarf has a very wavy edge from all the unintentional increases and decreases that happen. I stick to what I can do well--crocheting.

There's a military airfield near me, and frequently, flights of service people headed for deployment or coming home from deployment land there for refueling/restocking. There's a volunteer organization that meets every flight and provides the troops with pizza and coffee and other goodies during the layover. I can't make many of the layovers, as I work, so I can't make the ones during the day, or the ones in the middle of the night. I get to the ones I can, and to make a tiny bit of a contribution, I crochet hats. Every person heading out on deployment gets a hand-knitting or hand-crocheted hat.

I got word from the coordinator of the hat project that they are running low on hats. So instead of just working on hats when I watch TV, I've brought yarn to work and work on hats during breaks. A co-worker saw me madly crocheting at lunch last week.

Says the co-worker, "Ooooh! I need to get you to knit something for me!"

Me: Sorry, I only crochet. And right now, I'm only working on this project for our troops.

Co-worker: But I want a hat! (pouty face)

Me: Well, I can get you a copy of the pattern if you like.

Co-worker: No, I want a pretty hat!

Lunch time was over, so I got up and left.

Today at lunch, Co-worker bounces over and throws a pattern down in front of me. 1) It is for knitting. 2) It is incredibly elaborate, with cables  and a brim.

Co-worker: Here! Make this for me.

Me: I can't.

Co-worker: Why not? I want it!

Me: I don't knit. That's a knitted hat.

Co-worker: Insert your favorite whines and pleading here.

Me: Sorry. I don't knit. And I only crochet for family and members of the Armed Forces. When you enlist, let me know and I'll make you a hat.

Then I got up and left.
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« Reply #456 on: October 04, 2013, 05:34:42 PM »
Me: Sorry. I don't knit. And I only crochet for family and members of the Armed Forces. When you enlist, let me know and I'll make you a hat.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #457 on: October 04, 2013, 06:01:31 PM »
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Today at lunch, Co-worker bounces over and throws a pattern down in front of me. 1) It is for knitting. 2) It is incredibly elaborate, with cables  and a brim.


Co-worker: Here! Make this for me.


Me: I can't.

Co-worker: Why not? I want it!


Here let I'll take over the banging one's head on the wall portion of this thread. 


That exchange makes me seethe.  I hate when people do this to me. 

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #458 on: October 04, 2013, 09:11:08 PM »
When I was in the Army, I often got asked to sew on new rank insignia, etc. Which I did for most people.  The exception? The guy who threw his jacket at me and said, "By tomorrow."

I tossed it back at him and said, "Never."

He was amazed. He couldn't understand it. He just didn't believe I wouldn't do it.

Finally, another guy in our office took him aside and said, "Look, I know she has done stuff for other people in this office, but you broke the rules."

Jacket thrower: "What rules?"

Other guy: " You ask. you don't demand. You offer something for her work: money, rides, food, something."

Jacket thrower: "I never did any of that for my mom."

Other guy: "That WAC is not your mom, idiot!"

Jacket thrower never did pull his stuff together enough to get any sewing done by me!

Everyone else did. They took me places, they bought me food, they brought back stuff from their leaves home. I liked being helpful to and for them.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #459 on: October 04, 2013, 09:25:40 PM »

Co-worker: Why not? I want it!


Having young nieces and nephews, I now reflexively respond to any "I wants" with "And I want a million dollars and a pony."

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« Reply #460 on: October 04, 2013, 11:38:52 PM »
When I was in the Army, I often got asked to sew on new rank insignia, etc. Which I did for most people.  The exception? The guy who threw his jacket at me and said, "By tomorrow."

I tossed it back at him and said, "Never."

He was amazed. He couldn't understand it. He just didn't believe I wouldn't do it.

Finally, another guy in our office took him aside and said, "Look, I know she has done stuff for other people in this office, but you broke the rules."

Jacket thrower: "What rules?"

Other guy: " You ask. you don't demand. You offer something for her work: money, rides, food, something."

Jacket thrower: "I never did any of that for my mom."

Other guy: "That WAC is not your mom, idiot!"

Jacket thrower never did pull his stuff together enough to get any sewing done by me!

Everyone else did. They took me places, they bought me food, they brought back stuff from their leaves home. I liked being helpful to and for them.

This is why there is an alterations person working at the dry cleaning location by Uniform Clothing Sales - they also hem pants & skirts (finally figured out that I never finished this post for some reason).
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #461 on: October 05, 2013, 05:50:40 AM »
Reminds me of some occasions at work. I work in a school library, after the end of the school day. It's open until a reasonable hour, but since I'm the only member of staff in there (usually) and the kids aren't allowed to be in there unsupervised, it closes when I leave, at the set closing time.
Occasionally, a student will ask for 5/10/15 more minutes to finish off the last piece of a project. The answer can vary, dependent on a number of factors, such as:
- whether I need to be home by a certain time that afternoon (eg to cook dinner)
- whether or not I feel like staying at work longer. While I sometimes do it voluntarily, I don't have to.
- their reason for needing the time. If the student has been working solidly since the library opened, and is almost finished, I'm more sympathetic. But if they spent the best part of an hour chatting to their friends instead of working, or they just got out of detention, I'm far less likely to keep the library open for them. In the case of detention, it's not that I think they're a bad kid, it's just that I don't see why I should give up my personal time, because they forgot something/were rude to a teacher/didn't hand in their homework etc.
- their attitude. If they're polite, well-behaved, and seem to realise that I am actually doing them a favour, I am far more likely to stay a bit longer than if they rudely demand that the library stay open to suit them, say something like, "but you're paid to be here", and lack any hint of thanks or gratefulness, as if my free time is some constitutional right.  ::)

I draw the line at lending out items from my personal pencil case, though. If I lend something to one person, it feels bad saying no to someone else. So I don't lend anything. Besides which, they should generally have what they need anyway.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #462 on: October 05, 2013, 03:06:52 PM »
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Today at lunch, Co-worker bounces over and throws a pattern down in front of me. 1) It is for knitting. 2) It is incredibly elaborate, with cables  and a brim.


Co-worker: Here! Make this for me.


Me: I can't.

Co-worker: Why not? I want it!


Here let I'll take over the banging one's head on the wall portion of this thread. 


That exchange makes me seethe.  I hate when people do this to me.
Perhaps we should bang the demanders' heads on the wall instead of our own.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #463 on: October 05, 2013, 04:49:01 PM »
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Today at lunch, Co-worker bounces over and throws a pattern down in front of me. 1) It is for knitting. 2) It is incredibly elaborate, with cables  and a brim.


Co-worker: Here! Make this for me.


Me: I can't.

Co-worker: Why not? I want it!


Here let I'll take over the banging one's head on the wall portion of this thread. 


That exchange makes me seethe.  I hate when people do this to me.
Perhaps we should bang the demanders' heads on the wall instead of our own.
I like the way you think :D

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #464 on: October 09, 2013, 11:37:31 AM »
So a friend of mine, she had a kid pretty recently. It's a cute kid. She had mentioned in passing awhile back how once kid showed up she wanted to get some baby legs for kid, especially since our weather is finally cooling down. Since I'd never made baby legs I thought "Gee, I'd like to try making those", so I made a few. Specifically for this kid, and once kid actually showed up, I gifted them to the parents. Well I actually dropped off the present with the grandparents to give to the parents because I didn't want to bug new parents and I'm worried I'm coming down with a cold (didn't want to gift that, it's mine!). Anyways one of the pairs of baby legs is in Noterdame colors, so friend posts up picture this weekend of kid in ND outfit with, oh the baby legs! Friend who went to high school with both of us commented how cute the baby legs were and asked were they got them. Friend of mine says "Oh, Glitter knitted them up as a baby gift to us!", then I get a message from friend who went to high school asking for baby legs for her kid. Actually what she said was "I need some baby legs for my son. At least two pairs, ND colors for one, and just some boy for the other"....ok...what would you like me to do with this information?

I sent her a response that said: I'd be happy to knit you a few! If you'd like you can buy the yarn you want me to use and I'll knit them up for you for $2 a pair. Or I can use something I have on hand for $5 a pair. Custom orders range from $7-$20 a pair depending on how much the yarn will cost. Let me know what avenue you'd like to take.

Her message back to me was: Oh. LOL, I thought maybe I could get a pair and just ya know...drive some business to you! I'd tell all my friends where I got them from! ;)

Me: Thank you, but that isn't necessary. I can handle my own marketing. So, have you decided which opition for your baby legs?

Yeah, nothing back and I know I won't hear anything back either. A friend of the original friend though (a woman I don't know), sent me this message: Hi, I'm a friend of J's and she showed me some of the super cute baby legs you've knitted for her. I have some yarn already and I've been looking for someone who can knit me up some baby legs. I'd be happy to pay you for your time, and no rush on them at all! Can we meet for coffee to discuss details?

So I met her, she's paying $5 a pair, she's also asked if I can knit her a few caps out of some stash yarn I already have (also $5 each!). She set the price.

See, some people can figure out the right way to ask! Other people are nit-wits.