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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #480 on: October 30, 2013, 03:09:25 PM »
If you pay her, you are turning this from a nice gift into a commercial transaction.  Between two people who are acquaintances only, that's appropriate, but I don't think it is here.

I'd suggest getting her a gift such as a nice box of chocolates or bottle of wine (assuming she eats sweets/drinks).


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This.
At some point, when you insist on paying for a gift, it feels like rejection of the gift.
And there's the difference in what it's worth/what someone would pay/etc.

I mean, I just charged someone $20 to do a calligraphy project for them.  If someone off the street had asked, i probably would have said $100.  The 'worth' is about $4 worth of materials and 7 hours of my time--I'm willing to give that to a friend, no charge.  I'm not willing to sell that to just anyone.

if you must repay, do it with something other than money

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #481 on: October 30, 2013, 03:14:38 PM »
Thanks for all of the feedback! I think I'll treat her to lunch as a thank-you.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #482 on: October 30, 2013, 04:13:46 PM »
I was going to suggest the lunch thing, too.  A friend of mine asked me to repair her husband's afghan that was made by his blind grandmother.  She was going to pay me.  I suggested we go to a restaurant that we both love for lunch, on her, and call it good.  So that's what we did.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #483 on: October 30, 2013, 04:52:11 PM »
Rather then paying her with money (as it sounds she did it for just because you were her friend) what about treating her to a thank you lunch or coffee?

Or do something nice for her.

Volunteer to spend a Saturday helping her clean out a closet. Or if you make anything of any kind (food, sewing, whatever) or have any skills (resumé polishing even), look for an opportunity to gift her with something from YOUR hands.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #484 on: November 11, 2013, 09:55:14 PM »
Update on Doris, the lazy crocheter:

During the two months I spent making an afghan for Doris’ granddaughter, Doris was simply awful to me.  I figured she was angry about me backing way off on enabling her, and also I know that she’s found a new victim.  The last two weeks I didn’t hear from her at all, and I was delighted.  I planned to drop the afghan off and hopefully never hear from her again.

When I called to tell her I was bringing the afghan over, she was hostile.  She said she was about to take a nap and I could leave it in the car port.  I mentioned that I’d started a camouflage afghan like her grandson has been saying he wanted for the past two years.  She informed me that he was bored with camouflage and now wanted a red and black afghan.

I had week of peace, but today she called while I was at work and left a message.  She was bubbling sugar.  She said she hadn’t been feeling well and hadn’t felt like talking to anyone.  She effused about the granddaughter’s afghan (which took me 100 hours to make).  The kicker:  She showed the afghan to a pet neighbor child, who wants to know if she can have one just like it. 
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #485 on: November 11, 2013, 10:35:14 PM »
Why do I doubt that the child actually wants one that badly? I have a feeling she is blowing it out of proportion.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #486 on: November 12, 2013, 11:25:42 AM »
You can tell Doris that your gift to her grandchildren is free of charge (as it sounds like it is), but if Pet Neighbor Child wants one, it will be $XX and your turnaround time is Y weeks. Feel free to set your charge and time accordingly.

And if you don't want to switch to a red and black, just tell her that you've already started on the camoflauge and have already bought all the yarn, so terribly sorry, it will cost her $X to change colors at this point.

She sounds a little crazy, to be honest.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #487 on: November 18, 2013, 04:28:24 PM »
You can tell Doris that your gift to her grandchildren is free of charge (as it sounds like it is), but if Pet Neighbor Child wants one, it will be $XX and your turnaround time is Y weeks. Feel free to set your charge and time accordingly.

And if you don't want to switch to a red and black, just tell her that you've already started on the camoflauge and have already bought all the yarn, so terribly sorry, it will cost her $X to change colors at this point.

She sounds a little crazy, to be honest.

For a 100 hours of labour, I would say $XXX.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #488 on: December 01, 2013, 04:44:34 PM »
Found another example.

There is a website called "Noteflight", on which one can arrange pieces of music as sheet music, be it one's own compositions, or arrangements of well-known pieces. Lots of people do arrangements of pop songs and the like. You can choose which instruments to write for, and how many, eg a solo clarinet/piano, or an entire orchestra.
It takes a fair amount of work to arrange a piece of music as sheet music, and I totally appreciate the efforts and skill that go into it - especially since I'm not so skilled myself.
Musicians, music-lovers, composers etc are sharing these arrangements for free on this site; they're not being paid for their efforts. In fact, many are paying for the premium membership to the site.
Yet still, in the comments section for any given piece, you will find various people requesting that the person who arranged x piece of music, write another arrangement for instruments xyz, in such and such a key. Some requests are things anyone could easily do - eg, "Can you put the lyrics in with this?"  :oUmmm... YOU could do that. Print out the music, find the lyrics on the internet, and write them in yourself.
Some people just don't seem to appreciate that these people are doing something that takes a fair amount of skill, and sharing it with the world for free. They're not your personal composer!

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #489 on: December 01, 2013, 04:58:43 PM »
Found another example.

There is a website called "Noteflight", on which one can arrange pieces of music as sheet music, be it one's own compositions, or arrangements of well-known pieces. Lots of people do arrangements of pop songs and the like. You can choose which instruments to write for, and how many, eg a solo clarinet/piano, or an entire orchestra.
It takes a fair amount of work to arrange a piece of music as sheet music, and I totally appreciate the efforts and skill that go into it - especially since I'm not so skilled myself.
Musicians, music-lovers, composers etc are sharing these arrangements for free on this site; they're not being paid for their efforts. In fact, many are paying for the premium membership to the site.
Yet still, in the comments section for any given piece, you will find various people requesting that the person who arranged x piece of music, write another arrangement for instruments xyz, in such and such a key. Some requests are things anyone could easily do - eg, "Can you put the lyrics in with this?"  :oUmmm... YOU could do that. Print out the music, find the lyrics on the internet, and write them in yourself.
Some people just don't seem to appreciate that these people are doing something that takes a fair amount of skill, and sharing it with the world for free. They're not your personal composer!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS!  I lost my Finale registration code years ago, so even though I still have the discs, I can't use the (very expensive) notation program.  I don't write much anymore, but every once in a while I need to be able to churn out some sheet music for something and I don't have a way to do it - looks like this site will be a handy tool!

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #490 on: December 01, 2013, 06:22:11 PM »
Found another example.

There is a website called "Noteflight", on which one can arrange pieces of music as sheet music, be it one's own compositions, or arrangements of well-known pieces. Lots of people do arrangements of pop songs and the like. You can choose which instruments to write for, and how many, eg a solo clarinet/piano, or an entire orchestra.
It takes a fair amount of work to arrange a piece of music as sheet music, and I totally appreciate the efforts and skill that go into it - especially since I'm not so skilled myself.
Musicians, music-lovers, composers etc are sharing these arrangements for free on this site; they're not being paid for their efforts. In fact, many are paying for the premium membership to the site.
Yet still, in the comments section for any given piece, you will find various people requesting that the person who arranged x piece of music, write another arrangement for instruments xyz, in such and such a key. Some requests are things anyone could easily do - eg, "Can you put the lyrics in with this?"  :oUmmm... YOU could do that. Print out the music, find the lyrics on the internet, and write them in yourself.
Some people just don't seem to appreciate that these people are doing something that takes a fair amount of skill, and sharing it with the world for free. They're not your personal composer!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS!  I lost my Finale registration code years ago, so even though I still have the discs, I can't use the (very expensive) notation program.  I don't write much anymore, but every once in a while I need to be able to churn out some sheet music for something and I don't have a way to do it - looks like this site will be a handy tool!

You're welcome :)
The free membership limits your compositions to a maximum of 10, although you can "favourite" as many other pieces as you like. Otherwise, I think the paid membership is something like $50 a year.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #491 on: December 07, 2013, 04:08:33 PM »
Wasn't sure where to put this but I felt that you guys would be able to understand.

I am part of several groups on FB. Mostly for Crocheting. Sharing pictures and links to the patterns. Both free and paid for patterns. I have a huge problem with people who feel that the price of a paid pattern is too much and insists on a free version. It bugs me even more when the person tries to wheedle the pattern out of some one who did pay for it!

Yes I made this great item. Yes I paid for the pattern. I paid the person who invented the pattern. Who put in time and effort to create this wonderful pattern. It is work and they do deserve to get paid for it. 

I and others report the people who wrongfully spread paid patterns for free in the groups. There are people in the group who design patterns too and they deserve the income from the patterns.

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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #492 on: December 07, 2013, 04:34:50 PM »
I belonged to a group that kept passing around copies of their favorite patterns (counted cross stitch, not crochet or knitting) - "my copy" got shredded every time I got home and I didn't have a copier at home to make copies.  If asked for a copy of what I was doing - I'd tell them where I got it (or hand them a copy if it was a shop freebie for advertising) but for some reason, I was always forgetting to make copies at the library, didn't have change, forgot the original, etc.

I did make some copies - but they were for my own use as I highlighted the completed area on complicated designs (allowed) and not for handing out to other people so that they didn't have to buy a copy (not allowed).  But "rocking the boat" was not going to change them and it would have gotten me kicked out of what was otherwise a compatible group.
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #493 on: December 23, 2013, 10:46:32 AM »
This is just something I stumbled across online, and I thought I might leave it here for all the knitters who have posted to the thread. It is truly one of the most unusual charity requests I have ever seen. I think if I knew how to knit, I would do it just to be able to say "I knitted a sweater for a penguin and it saved their life."
Just one more reason you craft people are awesome. ;D
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Re: But ... But ... It's Not Like It's Work! (Craft Freebies)
« Reply #494 on: December 23, 2013, 11:26:24 AM »
Found another example.

There is a website called "Noteflight", on which one can arrange pieces of music as sheet music, be it one's own compositions, or arrangements of well-known pieces. Lots of people do arrangements of pop songs and the like. You can choose which instruments to write for, and how many, eg a solo clarinet/piano, or an entire orchestra.
It takes a fair amount of work to arrange a piece of music as sheet music, and I totally appreciate the efforts and skill that go into it - especially since I'm not so skilled myself.
Musicians, music-lovers, composers etc are sharing these arrangements for free on this site; they're not being paid for their efforts. In fact, many are paying for the premium membership to the site.
Yet still, in the comments section for any given piece, you will find various people requesting that the person who arranged x piece of music, write another arrangement for instruments xyz, in such and such a key. Some requests are things anyone could easily do - eg, "Can you put the lyrics in with this?"  :oUmmm... YOU could do that. Print out the music, find the lyrics on the internet, and write them in yourself.
Some people just don't seem to appreciate that these people are doing something that takes a fair amount of skill, and sharing it with the world for free. They're not your personal composer!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS!  I lost my Finale registration code years ago, so even though I still have the discs, I can't use the (very expensive) notation program.  I don't write much anymore, but every once in a while I need to be able to churn out some sheet music for something and I don't have a way to do it - looks like this site will be a handy tool!


You're welcome :)
The free membership limits your compositions to a maximum of 10, although you can "favourite" as many other pieces as you like. Otherwise, I think the paid membership is something like $50 a year.

Or if you'd rather not rely on an online service and/or pay a subscription fee, here's also a programme called MuseScore, which I use - it's rather good and totally free. It's available for both Windows and Mac.
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