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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2013, 11:59:22 AM »
...I have never in any of my interactions with any of the many doctors I've seen had them go straight to my weight as a cause...

My mother once had a doctor tell her the problem with her tongue was because she was too fat.  Her tongue.  Which is all muscle, I believe.  It would sometimes be swollen enough that she'd occasionally bite it. 

That was several years ago, and I can tell it occasionally happens again but she never seeks treatment because of the shame from when she did.  She is allergic to many things, which I suspect is the root cause.

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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2013, 12:20:34 PM »
I am also asked each time about my smoking and drinking habits, whether I have a gun in the house....

I ... what?  :o


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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2013, 12:36:24 PM »
Twik, it is among the standard questions asked of everyone. I am surprised you have never been asked! My understanding is that should someone answer "yes" they are provided with information about gun safety. Just like if someone says they smoke they are provided with information about the dangers of smoking for them and second hand smoke for their kids, for example.

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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »
I've never been asked about guns at the doctor either. It may be particular to your doctor, your area, your insurance provider, something like that.

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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2013, 12:50:44 PM »
I have never been asked about guns either. Pets, yes, due to potential pregnancy hazards, but not guns.

My current doctor doesn't bring up my weight unless I do it first. I imagine it's because he's more round than I am, but fit enough that he raises a small herd of cattle in his spare time (with his sons' help I believe). His nurse "woo-hooed" for me the last time I was in there, as I had dropped 6 pounds. Measly, to me, but she recognized it as an achievement a long time coming. Helped my perspective a lot.

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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2013, 12:54:47 PM »
Twik, it is among the standard questions asked of everyone. I am surprised you have never been asked! My understanding is that should someone answer "yes" they are provided with information about gun safety. Just like if someone says they smoke they are provided with information about the dangers of smoking for them and second hand smoke for their kids, for example.

I wouldn't call this "standard". I have been asked about guns and lead paint, exactly twice. I have two kids. I was asked at either the first or the second well-check visit for each child. I answered accordingly and that was that. I have never been asked again.

FTR, I do have guns but no lead paint.

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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2013, 12:58:04 PM »
Twik, it is among the standard questions asked of everyone. I am surprised you have never been asked! My understanding is that should someone answer "yes" they are provided with information about gun safety. Just like if someone says they smoke they are provided with information about the dangers of smoking for them and second hand smoke for their kids, for example.

I wouldn't call this "standard". I have been asked about guns and lead paint, exactly twice. I have two kids. I was asked at either the first or the second well-check visit for each child. I answered accordingly and that was that. I have never been asked again.

FTR, I do have guns but no lead paint.

I didn't mean to derail the thread!  My point was that there are various questions asked of patients to glean information about their lives that could create health issues for them.  I don't think doctors generally ask these questions so that they can berate their patients but rather so that they can help them. Similarly, even if someone goes in for a throat infection I don't think it is irrational for the patient's general health, including weight, to be assessed and addressed as needed.

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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2013, 01:14:19 PM »
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I do think doctors care about their patients' overall well being

I disagree.  Very much.  Some doctors may (although, to be honest, they're fairly rare from what I've experienced).  But most don't.  I had this same conversation with someone actually in the medical field last night.  Maybe you've had better luck with your doctors?  I don't know.  But it's certainly not what I've found to be true - nor, it appears, others in this thread.

And I have never, in all my years, been asked about a gun in the house.  That would be a freaky question to me.  I'm not doubting it's "standard" in some areas of the world, but it isn't where I am.




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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2013, 01:30:51 PM »
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I do think doctors care about their patients' overall well being

I disagree.  Very much.  Some doctors may (although, to be honest, they're fairly rare from what I've experienced).  But most don't.  I had this same conversation with someone actually in the medical field last night.  Maybe you've had better luck with your doctors?  I don't know.  But it's certainly not what I've found to be true - nor, it appears, others in this thread.

And I have never, in all my years, been asked about a gun in the house.  That would be a freaky question to me.  I'm not doubting it's "standard" in some areas of the world, but it isn't where I am.

Wow, This makes me very very sad for you.  I grew up in medium size suburb (@20,000 people) outside of Major city and have never had anything but extremely caring Drs - including 1 who actually still makes house calls and another who will come into his office on his day off if it is the only time you can make an appointment.  My current Dr. actually didn't charge me for an office visit because I'd just lost my job and health insurance. 

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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2013, 01:32:45 PM »
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I do think doctors care about their patients' overall well being

I disagree.  Very much.  Some doctors may (although, to be honest, they're fairly rare from what I've experienced).  But most don't.  I had this same conversation with someone actually in the medical field last night.  Maybe you've had better luck with your doctors?  I don't know.  But it's certainly not what I've found to be true - nor, it appears, others in this thread.

And I have never, in all my years, been asked about a gun in the house.  That would be a freaky question to me.  I'm not doubting it's "standard" in some areas of the world, but it isn't where I am.

I think this is an unfair and terrible thing to say. Doctors are people who chose a profession that saves lives. They spend a pretty horrible sleepless few years going through med school and their residencies to train for that job.  So that they can treat you and save your life.

No doubt there are some doctors out there who are bad. And some doctors out there who could be a little more sensitive. But I doubt that's the majority. And I think it's unfair for you to conclude based on the limited numbers of doctors that you've been to that doctors don't care about their patients' health.

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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2013, 01:37:55 PM »
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I do think doctors care about their patients' overall well being

I disagree.  Very much.  Some doctors may (although, to be honest, they're fairly rare from what I've experienced).  But most don't.  I had this same conversation with someone actually in the medical field last night.  Maybe you've had better luck with your doctors?  I don't know.  But it's certainly not what I've found to be true - nor, it appears, others in this thread.

And I have never, in all my years, been asked about a gun in the house.  That would be a freaky question to me.  I'm not doubting it's "standard" in some areas of the world, but it isn't where I am.

I know I haven't been here very long, but this strikes me as quite offensive, especially to those of us in the medical community. I'm sorry if you've had some bad experiences, but yeah, we do care. Please don't cast aspersions.

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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2013, 02:06:00 PM »


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I do think doctors care about their patients' overall well being

I disagree.  Very much.  Some doctors may (although, to be honest, they're fairly rare from what I've experienced).  But most don't.  I had this same conversation with someone actually in the medical field last night.  Maybe you've had better luck with your doctors?  I don't know.  But it's certainly not what I've found to be true - nor, it appears, others in this thread.

And I have never, in all my years, been asked about a gun in the house.  That would be a freaky question to me.  I'm not doubting it's "standard" in some areas of the world, but it isn't where I am.

I know I haven't been here very long, but this strikes me as quite offensive, especially to those of us in the medical community. I'm sorry if you've had some bad experiences, but yeah, we do care. Please don't cast aspersions.

Yeah, seconded! I suppose I am lucky in that I have never had a bad doctor, but I do find most doctors to be caring, efficient, and kind. I was very lucky as well in that my doctor helped me to lose weight when she saw it was bugging me: she wasn't judgemental at all, (in fact I brought the subject up) and was super helpful with nutrition/excercise advice.

In general, while there are of course poor members of any profession, I have a great regard for medics and medicine.

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Re: Weight article
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2013, 02:37:22 PM »


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I do think doctors care about their patients' overall well being

I disagree.  Very much.  Some doctors may (although, to be honest, they're fairly rare from what I've experienced).  But most don't.  I had this same conversation with someone actually in the medical field last night.  Maybe you've had better luck with your doctors?  I don't know.  But it's certainly not what I've found to be true - nor, it appears, others in this thread.

And I have never, in all my years, been asked about a gun in the house.  That would be a freaky question to me.  I'm not doubting it's "standard" in some areas of the world, but it isn't where I am.

I know I haven't been here very long, but this strikes me as quite offensive, especially to those of us in the medical community. I'm sorry if you've had some bad experiences, but yeah, we do care. Please don't cast aspersions.

Yeah, seconded! I suppose I am lucky in that I have never had a bad doctor, but I do find most doctors to be caring, efficient, and kind. I was very lucky as well in that my doctor helped me to lose weight when she saw it was bugging me: she wasn't judgemental at all, (in fact I brought the subject up) and was super helpful with nutrition/excercise advice.

In general, while there are of course poor members of any profession, I have a great regard for medics and medicine.

I'm not in the medical profession, but I am in a profession that many people like to denigrate, so I feel I have the right to speak up as well. It's really unfair to make these kind of blanket assumptions for any reason. Just because you have had a negative experience doesn't allow you to simply dismiss an entire profession out of hand.

For the record, I have had an excellent experience with many doctors, including the oncologist who treated my father's terminal cancer. I cannot imagine he has an easy job, knowing that he is going to lose most of his patients (given his particular practice).

I have two children who have been to various doctors, and we are routinely asked such 'lifestyle' questions as whether there are guns in the house, whether anyone smokes, etc. I assumed it was just routine procedure, and didn't think anything of it.

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Re: Weight article
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2013, 02:43:51 PM »
I've also been in the position where I've had all kinds of ailments blamed on weight that have nothing to do with weight and boy, does it get frustrating.

However, I've also been in the position where I'm guilty of *thinking* it's going to be blamed on weight and so I've gone in there defensive before I've even told them what's wrong. In some cases, I think perception has a part to play in it.

On the other hand, the specialist who finally diagnosed my underlying genetic condition, which was causing all the weird stuff in the first place, said firmly to me "This is absolutely nothing to do with your weight. You'd still have the same problems if you were 10 stone and a size 8". We agreed that it wasn't *helping* me to manage my condition, but that's a different thing entirely. Again, perception has a part to play. How many times are we interpreting "it may help you to manage your condition if you lost some weight" as "it's all your fault because you're fat" ?

I've not been a massive fan of the medical profession so far, simply because I was misdiagnosed and dismissed for so long, but even I think it's unfair to tar every medical professional with the same brush.

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Re: Weight article
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2013, 02:54:24 PM »
The side discussion about whether doctors care about their patients reminds me of this old story: http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/traveltales.html#twotravelersandfarmer

In any case, sweeping generalizations are, if not rude, then certainly lazy thinking.