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Getting Spoiled without a warning

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blarg314:

I figure that it's polite to avoid public spoilers (twitter, facebook, talking to people without checking if they've seen it yet) for a reasonable amount of time. For a TV show - about 36 hours to cover different time zones. For a newly released movie - a few weeks. For a newly released book - about a month.

That way if someone really wants a pristine reading/watching experience they've had the opportunity to do so.

The flip side, of course, is that if someone wants a pristine, unspoiled experience with a newly released piece of media, they need to make an effort to see it quickly, and in the case of TV shows should probably avoid twitter and facebook while the show is actually being shown.  Recording Game of Thrones on Sunday, with plans to watch it the following Friday, and expecting everyone to keep the events secret is not a good strategy if unspoiled viewing is very important too you.

(GoT is an interesting case, in that it's possible to spoil it before it airs, based on the source material.  I knew that the Red Wedding was coming, and which episode it would show up in. I know at least two major shocking plot events that will probably occur next season (heh, heh, heh)).

The example given in the OP was *not* a spoiler  - that was pretty generic information about the style of the game. Anything shown in the trailer or 'next week on' doesn't count as secret material. It's not a spoiler if you're discussing historical events (the ship in Titanic sinks!)

And if you get upset because someone just spoiled The Sixth Sense or The Crying Game for you, you're going way over the top. There's definitely a statute of limitations on shocking twist based movies or books.

FWIW, I live in Asia, and I get some stuff at the same time it's released in the US or Europe, but for other stuff it can be months to years before I get (legal) access to it. I just accept that as part of life here.

LifeOnPluto:
Interesting. I posted a thread here last year, about how the Facebook Page for "Being Human" (UK) revealed the death of a major character in Season 4 immediately after the episode had gone to air in the UK. The consensus on that thread appeared to be "as soon as the episode airs, it's fair game for the internet. People in different countries / timezones should stay off the internet if they don't want to be spoiled."

I personally think that unless it's a specific forum for discussing a show / game / book, then it's poor form to reveal a spoiler on social media in the first few weeks / months after it's released. 

Pen^2:
I remember someone getting up in arms about me comparing something to the ending of Terminator--less than two years ago.

When something's been out for a while, it becomes part of pop culture, especially the subculture to which it mostly belongs (e.g. survival games as in OP's story). It becomes a meme of its own. Not the lolcat kind, but a meme in the real sense of the word. It therefore becomes part of the way one communicates about its subculture or even pop culture in general. To discuss how a character was oedipal would intrinsically include a spoiler about the ancient Oedipus story, for example.

To expect someone not to spoil the end of things like that which have been out for months or years? Ridiculous. It will come up in other things of similar genres. Your loss. If you don't know who Luke Skywalker's father is, that isn't anyone else's problem or concern.

If it's the day or maybe week after a game has been released or television show has aired, though, then I think the polite thing to do is to make it explicit that you will reveal spoilers before discussing it, since it's reasonable to assume that a great deal of your audience hasn't seen it yet through no fault of their own.

The Last of Us has been out for almost three months. I feel that makes it fair to discuss when describing or comparing it with another game in a similar genre. It would be better to mention the presence of spoilers beforehand, just as an extra courtesy, but it is by no means required after this much time.

If it matters enough to someone not to have things spoiled, then it is their responsibility to watch/read/play it in a timely fashion, not for everyone else to tiptoe around them for months until they get around to it. I don't think the spoiler in the OP's example was rude at all.

Allyson:
I have a few friends who get seriously wacked about spoilers--freaking out as soon as anybody mentions a particular show, getting angry if someone posts a fairly mild spoiler on Facebook, that kind of thing. Honestly, it is starting to get on my nerves a bit. I know it's sad to be spoiled, and it's considerate to ask before giving away a major plot point, but if someone is going to lose their mind over *anything* even a bit spoilerish, I think it's on them to finish the movie/tv show/book in a relatively timely manner.

It gets a bit more complicated with things like The Hobbit or Game of Thrones, where the source material has been around for years but the rest of the movie/TV show isn't out yet. In that case I do think it's considerate not to spoil ahead of what's already out.

There are things that are *impossible* to avoid even right after, but I don't really see how to change that. Thinking about *that* episode of Game of Thrones--it was all over Facebook and Twitter within minutes. I think that's too bad in some ways, but it's also not really fair to tell people they can't be publically excited about their favourite show the day after it aired--waiting a week and people won't be as excited to have online discussions about it.

I would always try to avoid spoiling a huge major plot point if I didn't think people had seen it, but to avoid mentioning anything about it all, like the comment that was whited out, I think is not reasonable.

cwm:
I try to avoid spoilers for things that are fairly recent. That being said, I had a friend yell at me because I was mentioning something that happened in a show. She's still watching season 1, and I'm mentioning season 4. And it was in the middle of airing season 8 that I mentioned it. Because I should know how far she'd seen.

I think the commenter was off base here. What I saw in white text doesn't actually spoil anything. If this video poster is known for doing posts about zombie or survival games, it's fairly common that characters will make choices based on survival and not morals. That's part of survival in those games. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that the commenter thinks that nobody else should mention the game at all in a public forum until he has had a chance to play it. What if someone else hasn't had a chance to play it yet and dude wants to talk about it? Should he wait until everyone has played it? If that's the case, he'd be waiting a long time, because I have no plans to ever start, but my BF might decide he wants to in about five years. And heaven forbid he get spoiled before then...

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