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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2013, 09:10:57 AM »


asking If I need change back.

Every time this has happened to me the server has not looked at the money, just picked up the booklet that you put the cash/card in.  I have no problem with that because they are just trying to find out if they need to come back to the table.  If the server looked and saw it was $100 on a $50 bill and asked that would be inappropriate.

Asking about a one-dollar bill for a five-dollar tab would be just as inappropriate because it's not the server's money.

I was exaggerating for effect.  My point was if they don't look I don't mind them asking because they don't know what is in the billfold.

I think asking at all is rather presumptuous. If a customer wants to leave a tip, she will do so.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2013, 09:14:33 AM »


asking If I need change back.

Every time this has happened to me the server has not looked at the money, just picked up the booklet that you put the cash/card in.  I have no problem with that because they are just trying to find out if they need to come back to the table.  If the server looked and saw it was $100 on a $50 bill and asked that would be inappropriate.

Asking about a one-dollar bill for a five-dollar tab would be just as inappropriate because it's not the server's money.

I was exaggerating for effect.  My point was if they don't look I don't mind them asking because they don't know what is in the billfold.

I think asking at all is rather presumptuous. If a customer wants to leave a tip, she will do so.

Yes and sometimes that tip is already included in the money that is left in the billfold.  Clearly we are at impasse here so I'm happy to agree to disagree.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2013, 09:15:52 AM »
I am a server, & I admit to doing this at times, but only when the change is less than a quarter. I'm so annoyed at change in general, I don't know why we still use pennies, which to me are completely useless. I guess I assumed everyone felt the same way, but now I realize they don't! I will start bringing everyone their change.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2013, 09:21:07 AM »


asking If I need change back.

Every time this has happened to me the server has not looked at the money, just picked up the booklet that you put the cash/card in.  I have no problem with that because they are just trying to find out if they need to come back to the table.  If the server looked and saw it was $100 on a $50 bill and asked that would be inappropriate.

Asking about a one-dollar bill for a five-dollar tab would be just as inappropriate because it's not the server's money.

I was exaggerating for effect.  My point was if they don't look I don't mind them asking because they don't know what is in the billfold.

I think asking at all is rather presumptuous. If a customer wants to leave a tip, she will do so.

Yes and sometimes that tip is already included in the money that is left in the billfold.  Clearly we are at impasse here so I'm happy to agree to disagree.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2013, 01:41:08 PM »
I don't like being asked "do you need change?" because it can feel like pressure. On the other hand, I sometimes hand the money to the server and volunteer "I don't need change" if I have put in the amount I want to give them, including tip (especially if I have small bills). I figure that tells them that they don't need to deal with my payment right away, if there are other jobs waiting (bringing someone else food or change or taking an order), and that this is a cash payment, not a credit card that they need to run. "Can I keep all this as a tip?" is a different question from "is it okay if I take their order before processing your payment?" but the server would probably ask it the same way.
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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2013, 01:56:07 PM »
It's weird for a server to make the assumption that a dinner doesn't want the coin change, and it would likely be something I'd notice.  However, I would have very little interest in doing anything about it.  When I go out to eat, I assume tip as part of the cost, and I suppose in my mind some of my change does indeed belong to the server.  Assuming I was going to tip more than 99 cents, it's just part of doing business, and I would hate to ruin the experience of having a relaxing/fun meal out with complaining to the manager about less than a dollar. 

I have found it interesting to hear from the people who would have a stronger reaction that I.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2013, 02:09:38 PM »
Back in the dark ages I waited tables. I never asked customers if they wanted the change. I would say, "I'll be right back with your change."
As for making change, I agree with the poster who said that some people simply don't know how to figure out the change due without help from technology. I am glad we were taught to count back change in math class at school. It's a skill you use your whole life. As servers we were expected to figure out tax and change.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2013, 05:41:32 PM »
I am a server, & I admit to doing this at times, but only when the change is less than a quarter. I'm so annoyed at change in general, I don't know why we still use pennies, which to me are completely useless. I guess I assumed everyone felt the same way, but now I realize they don't! I will start bringing everyone their change.

Ever not get a tip and not know why?

I am glad you won't be doing that anymore.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2013, 05:54:49 PM »
I think it's completely possible that it could have been an accident. A lot of cash registers now spit out the coins for you, while you retrieve the bills from the drawer. When paying at the grocery store, I have forgotten to grab my OWN change on more than one occasion.


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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2013, 05:56:51 PM »
I am a server, & I admit to doing this at times, but only when the change is less than a quarter. I'm so annoyed at change in general, I don't know why we still use pennies, which to me are completely useless. I guess I assumed everyone felt the same way, but now I realize they don't! I will start bringing everyone their change.

Ever not get a tip and not know why?

I am glad you won't be doing that anymore.

Please forgive me if it's not my place to say, but this seems harsh - especially when the poster is acknowledging she made an assumption that she realizes is incorrect and will not be making any more.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2013, 06:58:13 PM »
I can't think of the last time I paid with cash at a restaurant, but this is something I doubt people will ever agree on. For me, it is so not an issue to round to the nearest dollar. I thought this would be a situation of giving a server a $50 on a $35 tab or something. I think there are enought people who think counting out 37 cents only to be handed it back is an exercise in silliness that it is unkind to portray the server as some sort of evil theif, trying to get rich 37 cents at a time. I can see sime people feel strongly otherwise, but I just can't get behind the "she is stealing my money" type spin on this. Sure, it's not technically the server's money, but social convention makes it reasonable for the server to assume she will be getting a tip and to a lot of people, 37 cents is just an annoying amount to carry around.

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2013, 07:05:03 PM »
Back in the dark ages I waited tables. I never asked customers if they wanted the change. I would say, "I'll be right back with your change."
As for making change, I agree with the poster who said that some people simply don't know how to figure out the change due without help from technology. I am glad we were taught to count back change in math class at school. It's a skill you use your whole life. As servers we were expected to figure out tax and change.

This was what I did too (also back in the dark ages).  90% of the time, if the person didn't in fact want change s/he would say so at that point.  However, sometimes they wouldn't hear me I guess so I would end up bringing back change even though it was obvious from the amount that it wasn't wanted ($33 on a $27 check for instance), because I had said I would.  Then I'd get the "are you mentally challenged?" look.  Oh well - better than looking presumptuous. 

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2013, 07:29:20 PM »
I am a server, & I admit to doing this at times, but only when the change is less than a quarter. I'm so annoyed at change in general, I don't know why we still use pennies, which to me are completely useless. I guess I assumed everyone felt the same way, but now I realize they don't! I will start bringing everyone their change.

Ever not get a tip and not know why?

I am glad you won't be doing that anymore.

Please forgive me if it's not my place to say, but this seems harsh - especially when the poster is acknowledging she made an assumption that she realizes is incorrect and will not be making any more.

Harsh why?  It's something that's been brought up in this thread and I genuinely wonder. 

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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2013, 07:43:01 PM »
I can't think of the last time I paid with cash at a restaurant, but this is something I doubt people will ever agree on. For me, it is so not an issue to round to the nearest dollar. I thought this would be a situation of giving a server a $50 on a $35 tab or something. I think there are enought people who think counting out 37 cents only to be handed it back is an exercise in silliness that it is unkind to portray the server as some sort of evil theif, trying to get rich 37 cents at a time. I can see sime people feel strongly otherwise, but I just can't get behind the "she is stealing my money" type spin on this. Sure, it's not technically the server's money, but social convention makes it reasonable for the server to assume she will be getting a tip and to a lot of people, 37 cents is just an annoying amount to carry around.

I tend to keep the small coins and tip in full dollar amounts.  So a server not bringing back the coins would get less tip from me, especially if it was a smaller check.  On a $10 bill, I'd tip $2.  But I wouldn't tip $2.37 and if I don't have any other coinage to make up the $0.63, I'm only tipping $1, on top of the $0.37.  Maybe I am being petty but I'm not going to be forced into tipping more than I intended because the server failed to bring me all my change, whether by accident or on purpose.
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Re: Short changed at a restaurant
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2013, 07:44:14 PM »
I can't think of the last time I paid with cash at a restaurant, but this is something I doubt people will ever agree on. For me, it is so not an issue to round to the nearest dollar. I thought this would be a situation of giving a server a $50 on a $35 tab or something. I think there are enought people who think counting out 37 cents only to be handed it back is an exercise in silliness that it is unkind to portray the server as some sort of evil theif, trying to get rich 37 cents at a time. I can see sime people feel strongly otherwise, but I just can't get behind the "she is stealing my money" type spin on this. Sure, it's not technically the server's money, but social convention makes it reasonable for the server to assume she will be getting a tip and to a lot of people, 37 cents is just an annoying amount to carry around.

I agree.

When I was a waitress, it was a pain to give back exact change for a variety of reasons. So I always rounded. Now, I always rounded up, so if I owed them 37 cents, I'd give back 50 cents, so I wasn't doing what people complain about here. But I certainly understand why some don't give change back and I can't imagine myself ever caring about someone keeping thirty cents that I was going to give anyway.

Between this thread and the thread about the family deciding to donate a dinner to the homeless, it seems like some people here are quick to be upset and find the negative in situations. Maybe part of etiquette should be assuming the best about others and not making mountains out of molehills.
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