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Nikko-chan

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2013, 09:07:05 PM »
I am just waiting for a post from you to appear in the PD thread "Yeah, StickyFingers stole stuff from co workers, and everything was pink, imagine that! And security had to escort him out, all the while he screamed and cried about how he was innocent and it wasn't fair!"

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2013, 09:45:33 PM »
It's very telling that those were the only 2 things taken from an office full of stuff.  Plus, there have been no thefts until he was hired.  Now, he is no longer speaking to you as well. 

OP, I feel for you.  I would not be able to work with a person like that, let alone have an office near him.  There must be something your office can do other than sit on their hands and be suspicious of him.  (Can they check his wife's FB page for pictures with the hat?  >:D)

We had a lunch thief in our office.  Nothing was done until he was caught with the bosses specialty soda in his hand.  THEN he was fired on the spot.  Your computer guy will undoubtedly steal again, make sure it's not your stuff from your office.  Send an office wide e-mail detailing the incident and your reason for locking it up.  Everyone will know who is to blame.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2013, 11:49:30 PM »
I was thinking a motion activated camera.  Yes, the evil Dragon would bait the trap with a really cute pink item that you casually show others so that he notices it (not directly to him of course). Leave the item out and camera ready the next time you're out.

Yes, I read too many mysteries.   8)

Walmart and Bed Bath & Beyond sell those. They're supposed to be for bird watching or monitoring plant growth. But I'm sure they work lovely for catching office thieves, too  >:D

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2013, 12:42:42 AM »
Just make sure that the collection item is pink but the camera is NOT pink.
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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2013, 01:38:58 AM »

Last week I took a day off and on Thursday morning I realized something was slightly off on my bookshelf--both my ball cap and my hard hat were missing. Things had been moved into their spots from other shelves, like to cover the empty spaces, and the safety glasses I kept underneath the hard hat were on a different shelf. I'm an accountant, I can add 2+2, so I stuck my head in Bruce's office and said, "Have you seen my hard hat and ball cap? They're both missing." He said, "No, no." I said, "Well, did you see anyone going in or out of my office yesterday?" He said, kind of quickly, "No, no. It must have been the cleaning people. At my last job stuff went missing all the time."

So if you've made it this far, on to my question: there are empty offices on the other end of the hallway. Should I insist that he be moved down there? If he were to be moved his projects partner would have to be moved as well, so that complicates it a bit. Am I being too dramatic? What would you do?

Gee, I wonder why.

You have a huge problem that will only be solved by the problem going away. I wish you luck, and suggest you lock your office door regardless of how inconvenient that might be for others.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2013, 03:26:11 AM »
Wulfie, my boss told me I can't accuse him directly nor tell anyone that it was him (although a lot of people figured it out!); since we have no solid proof that he did it he could claim defamation of character. I don't know how much of a legal leg he'd have to stand on really. I did tell him that it was definitely not the cleaning people, and I told him Friday morning that I was going to HR to report the theft. I was hoping he say, "Oh, no need, I took them as a joke," but no luck there.

And White Lotus, I would LOVE to meet his wife! I'd ask her how she likes that adorable pink hard hat (I'd bet cash money he didn't tell her he stole it) and then say how weird it was that mine just disappeared.  >:D
your boss is not wrong - while i, too, believe that this person stole the hats, all you have is circumstantial evidence.

I would, however, talk to your boss about another system for locking offices. it's not ok that *anyone* can walk into your office while you are not there. and if someone went in to get a file, then they should make sure to lock the room afterwards.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2013, 03:46:11 AM »
Don't bother trying to get HR or whomever to force him to move. If he's the kind of person who'll steal something in such a way that he's the only suspect in everyone's minds, then being a few offices down the hallway won't change anything. He'll just walk the few extra steps. No biggie.

I'd definitely ask the boss what to do to prevent a theft from happening again. It's very obvious who the thief is, but without solid proof, you can't do much. But that doesn't change the fact that there is a thief in your offices, and this should be dealt with anyway. I'd start by pointing out that another system is needed instead of the current habit of leaving doors unlocked so anyone can wander into an empty office. Maybe a plastic sleeve taped to the office door? People can leave papers to be signed in that. It's that easy.

This guy stole once. He'll almost definitely do it again. It would be good for everyone to at least have some kind of system in place to reduce the amount of stuff he'll nick. You might not be able to catch him out for this first theft (unless a photo of his wife wearing a certain pink hat appears in his office, and you confirm with the relevant parties that he never ordered or bought one), but you can make it harder for him to commit more, and (hopefully) easier to catch next time he does it.

It seems that, by doing something so stupid, he's already lost the trust of his boss and several coworkers. I hope those b****y hats were worth it to him. Bozo.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2013, 06:55:34 AM »
I agree there's nothing that HR or your boss can do right now about this guy, except keep an eye on him. At least you have alerted them to the problem.

But I'm a little surprised that there will be no announcement from HR or the boss that there have been thefts in the office. And that all employees should take extra precautions with their belongings.

There's no reason to keep the thefts a secret. And everyone around this guy should know that their belongings are at risk, too. Granted, there's probably not a lot of pink floating around the office, but who knows what will tempt him next?

At the very least, keep your door locked. And spread the word that if someone needs to unlock your door for any reason, they need to re-lock it on leaving your office.
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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2013, 09:24:58 AM »
At the very least, keep your door locked. And spread the word that if someone needs to unlock your door for any reason, they need to re-lock it on leaving your office.

This would be effective, but only if the suspect doesn't also have a key.

I'd go with the camera/bait idea.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2013, 09:58:15 AM »
fingerprint the shelves/items on the shelves and compare them to his. >:D

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2013, 10:16:26 AM »
There are some really small, highly effective cameras that can be hidden in clocks or other office furnishings.  Ask your boss/HR if one could be installed in your office.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2013, 11:43:49 AM »

This guy stole once. He'll almost definitely do it again. It would be good for everyone to at least have some kind of system in place to reduce the amount of stuff he'll nick. You might not be able to catch him out for this first theft (unless a photo of his wife wearing a certain pink hat appears in his office, and you confirm with the relevant parties that he never ordered or bought one), but you can make it harder for him to commit more, and (hopefully) easier to catch next time he does it.

Wise words.  Be prepared.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now?
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2013, 12:37:24 PM »
Wow. I thought I had heard it all. I hope his wife enjoys her new (used) pink hats!

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now? Weirdness update p2
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2013, 12:37:47 PM »
So Hard Hat Swiper hadn't talked to me since I asked him last Thursday morning if he'd seen my hats. But this morning one of my coworkers walked into my office wearing her own pink hard hat as a joke, and he followed her into my office and said to me, "Is that your hat?!" I said no, it's hers. He said, "Did yours ever show up?"

I came within a hair of saying, Well, not unless you brought it back, but instead said, "No, and I'm sure they never will, but HR has ordered me a new one." And he said to me, "Oh! Who do I ask to get one? Because you know I told you my wife wants one of those."

 :o

I said, "Yeah, you mentioned that. Talk to HR." And then turned to my coworker and started talking about the work-related question she had for me, and he wandered out.

This guy, y'all! This guy has a lot of chutzpah. I'm loving all your comments and appreciating your feedback. Unfortunately locking my door won't do much good since our keys all fit each others' doors, and I don't want to mess with a camera for now. If something else goes missing I'll ask HR to change the locks, but I honestly don't think he'll steal anything else--he already got what he wanted! I did take home the one irreplaceable item in my office that I would be upset to lose, and I won't be leaving my (pink!) gym bag here overnight anymore.

My coworkers don't have much personal stuff in their offices either, and I know a couple of them took home some valuables they didn't want to lose. The HR lady said she might send out a warning email but it's not happened yet.

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Re: Should he stay or should he go now? Weirdness update p2
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2013, 12:49:17 PM »
So Hard Hat Swiper hadn't talked to me since I asked him last Thursday morning if he'd seen my hats. But this morning one of my coworkers walked into my office wearing her own pink hard hat as a joke, and he followed her into my office and said to me, "Is that your hat?!" I said no, it's hers. He said, "Did yours ever show up?"

I came within a hair of saying, Well, not unless you brought it back, but instead said, "No, and I'm sure they never will, but HR has ordered me a new one." And he said to me, "Oh! Who do I ask to get one? Because you know I told you my wife wants one of those."

 :o

I said, "Yeah, you mentioned that. Talk to HR." And then turned to my coworker and started talking about the work-related question she had for me, and he wandered out.

This guy, y'all! This guy has a lot of chutzpah. I'm loving all your comments and appreciating your feedback. Unfortunately locking my door won't do much good since our keys all fit each others' doors, and I don't want to mess with a camera for now. If something else goes missing I'll ask HR to change the locks, but I honestly don't think he'll steal anything else--he already got what he wanted! I did take home the one irreplaceable item in my office that I would be upset to lose, and I won't be leaving my (pink!) gym bag here overnight anymore.

My coworkers don't have much personal stuff in their offices either, and I know a couple of them took home some valuables they didn't want to lose. The HR lady said she might send out a warning email but it's not happened yet.

Hmmm...sounds like someone has a guilty conscience, and while aware of the missing hat, was trying to make it seem like he was completely innocent, by asking how toget one. 

Even if yours hadn't gone missing, its still a bit snowflakey to think that your company would provide him with a pink hard hat for his WIFE. who doens't even work there.