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cheyne

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Re: Jan Unbrady is having a second baby shower
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2007, 11:43:36 AM »
mrsbrandt;
If you truly feel that she shouldn't have a second shower, and it's inappropriate, why are you going?

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I thought that according to proper etiquette (what this site is supposed to be about BTW), that a shower is only appropriate for the FIRST baby, whatever the circumstances.  Close relatives are NOT supposed to host a shower, either.

Part of the reason that people commit so many etiquette blunders is we enable them to do so by continuing to attend events that we know are inappropriate.

Just MHO by the way... 

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Re: Jan Unbrady is having a second baby shower
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2007, 12:00:51 PM »
I'm going because Jan and I are "friendly" and it would be viewed as a huge snub by the entire family to not attend and because there are other relatives that I don't normally see that I'd like to.

I think you're right that we do propogate the etiquette blunders by attending such events, but if I was given the choice between decimating a family member's feeling by not going and just sucking it and being amused at the tackiness of the whole ordeal - I'm going to go with being amused.  (Not that this event falls into this category, but some weddings I've been to do.  Could you imagine if no one showed up to a wedding, because of some etiquette error?  I wouldn't wish that on anyone even if it meant that people learned their lesson.)

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Re: Jan Unbrady is having a second baby shower
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2007, 04:43:55 PM »
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Part of the reason that people commit so many etiquette blunders is we enable them to do so by continuing to attend events that we know are inappropriate.

True, but there are times where family expectations or friendship trump etiquette.

Examples:

-My sister hosted my bridal shower.  It was a very small affair where only family or might-as-well-be-family was invited, because I don't have that many female friends.  So it was proper.  When it came time for hers, the guest list was much larger because my sister and her in-laws are far more social.  My sister only had one other bridesmaid (the groom's sister, who is also a total tomboy with no interest in anything wedding), and in both our families it is expected the bridesmaids host the shower.  So the two of us threw my sister's shower.  Into E-hell we go, but we would have gotten in much bigger trouble with our families if we'd said it wasn't appropriate.

-I got an invite for a babyshower for a friend hosted by her mother.  I really like the girl, and thanks to busy schedules, don't get to see her often.  I wanted to go to her shower.  Do I decline because it's not proper etiquette for the mother-to-be's mother to host the shower, even though I have no plans and really like the honoree?  Or do I overlook the etiquette gaffe and chalk it up as an excited grandma-to-be and cheerfully go to the shower?  Obviously, I went.

-I hosted a shower for hubby's best friend's wife.  (I offered very early on, and she excepted.)  The grandma-to-be really wanted in on the hosting, too, because she was so excited and it's pretty common around here for the grandma-to-be to throw the shower (at least, as far as I can tell).  The daughter-in-law refusing the grandma-to-be's good-intentioned hosting would have really upset grandma-to-be.  She knowingly broke etiquette and allowed her MIL to throw her shower because adhering to etiquette would have offended someone who meant a lot more to her.

-I've seen many stories on Ehell about brides or mothers-to-be who wanted low-key affairs, no strippers, no drinking, or no games, only to have their wishes ignored by the hostess because it's not what the hostess envisioned.  If the honoree is adhering to etiquette, she isn't that involved in the planning of the shower.  So that note to "bring an addressed envelope!" or "bring a pack of diapers for admission!" might be totally tacky, but NOT the honoree's idea.  If I had a friend who was normally very gracious and I got an invite from one of her friends for a third shower with tacky instructions, I'd probably give my friend the benefit of the doubt and blame the hostess :)

Etiquette is important (we wouldn't be here if we didn't think that), but I think letting etiquette trump all isn't always a realistic option.  Sometimes we just bite the bullet because, when balancing etiquette and the feelings of the parties involved, the consequences just aren't worth following the rules.  :P

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Re: Jan Unbrady is having a second baby shower
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2007, 05:23:16 PM »
I say she should skip having a shower and just organize a "benefit!"  She can call it the "Oops, I Did It Again Fundraiser!"  LOL

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Re: Jan Unbrady is having a second baby shower
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2007, 05:41:08 PM »
first HUGE baby shower, less than 2 years ago she got a brand new baby crib, a brand new changing table, brand new nursery furniture, a brand new glider/rocker - all from non-immediate family.

Wow, I wish I had friends like that - I'm obviously moving in the wrong circles as I've never heard of anyone receiving presents like these at a baby shower.  She must have some very generous friends.  Did Jan ask for these things or were they just spontaneously give them to her?

I say she should skip having a shower and just organize a "benefit!"  She can call it the "Oops, I Did It Again Fundraiser!"  LOL

LOL Thanks for my laugh for the day. ;D  Maybe BenefitBoy and EntitlementGirl could organise it for her and Mr Diva could play some music. :D

LissaR1 - I agree totally.  Where I come from it is quite okay (the norm even) for relatives to host baby and bridal showers.  In fact, most people I know would consider it strange for a non-family member (or extremely close friend in the absence of sisters or a mother) to organise a bridal shower.   I don't live in the US/Canada so that's where the difference in that particular part of etiquette may spring from.
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