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Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« on: January 08, 2007, 12:54:21 PM »
I'm so very frustrated.  I'm with a volunteer organization that helps transport people who don't drive (usually elderly) to doctor appointments, shopping, church services, etc. for free.  Our group is very small and we aren't always available to help with all requests.  In those cases, we refer the person to two other non-profit companies that have special mini-bus services that run 6 days a week, 12 hours per day. 

What is driving me so crazy, is the people who claim to need a ride but who want to impose significant conditions on what they will and won't do if they use our volunteer organization.  i just spoke to one elderly woman in an attempt to get matched up with a driver so she could go shopping, etc.   Her list of requirements was so extensive that there is no way that one of our volunteer drivers would ever be able to fill it.    When I then refered her to the two mini-bus services, that wasn't going to work for this, that, and the other reason either.  Then she mentions that the assisted living complex where she resides has a staff that runs residents around town but THAT wasn't going to work either for five other reasons.  Total inflexibility.

GADS!   As it stands, she has just argued her way out of getting any rides anywhere from a total of four different options!   What is it with these people?   

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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2007, 01:15:33 PM »
GADS!   As it stands, she has just argued her way out of getting any rides anywhere from a total of four different options!   What is it with these people?   

She is like my mother. She wants ME to take her every place, and will come up with lots of reasons why NONE of the alternative means of transportation will work. she doesn't really WANT to take any other means of transportation except my car!
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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2007, 01:51:31 PM »
She just moved here and her only family lives about an hour's drive away.  Maybe she'll change her mind about using these transport services if she has to sit and stew on it a while.  Or not.  Either way, I can't help her the way it stands now. 

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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2007, 03:33:29 PM »
I used to drive for CareGivers, and we used to face the same thing.

But my overall favorites were the people who would demand five rides a week. From five volunteers.  And when you'd get there to pick them up,
a) anothe rrelative's car would be in the driveway,
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b) it turned out it wasn't a necessary appointment and they could have piggy-backed it onto another one.

95% of my clients were terrific, but that 1 in 20 who were entitled made me want to scream.

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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2007, 03:51:12 PM »
I think people can't differentiate between a nonprofit service and taxis. If I paid for a taxi I would expect it to arrive in a very small window of time, but if it's a charity I would make allowances.

We had a scheme near us called Dial A Ride which, unfortunately, wasn't useful for everyone as you could not take someone with the passenger, so if people needed someone to push them or help carry you couldn't use it. But it was good for many people so it was a worthwhile service. You just have to bare in mind that not everything in life will be tailored to you.

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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2007, 03:53:16 PM »
In this case, she should shut her mouth and deal, or arrange her own MOT.




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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2007, 04:28:41 PM »
It's so nice when people appreciate the help that they are offered and it is so annoying when they nitpick you to death. This is the chief reason you have such a hard time getting people to volunteer for things anymore.
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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 08:36:05 AM »
This is something I had to put up with in my previous position, where I worked in the Admissions Department of a cancer hospital.  We had our own minibus which held 15, and used the ambulance service's volunteer drivers and minibus service to get our patients to and from their radiotherapy/chemo appointments. 

The majority of the patients were wonderful, but on, that tiresome few!  Depending on where you lived in my city you were scheduled an am or pm appointment to make it easier for our driver to pick up at certain times in certain areas.  there was a fair amount of waiting around involved as all the patients had to be seen and treated before the bus could start dropping people off. Most of them were fine with this and understood the necessity.

We regularly had people who insisted on bringing on board several family members 'for company' and getting angry and 'that's not my problem' when gently informed that every extra person on board meant a patient couldn't be picked up and treated.  The driver couldn't refuse to take these extras on board and although he tecnically wasn't supposed to he would end up making several extra trips to pick all the patients up.

My favourite was the lady (and I use the term loosely) who complained loudly that she had to share the bus with others, who claimed she had been told by me(absolutely not true) that she would be picked up by private taxi and the hospital would pay for it, and when it was explained to her that it was shared bus or nothing, yelled that if she had known it was going to be this much hassle she would have just let her hsuband or one of her 3 children drive her up and down every day like they had offered!

I informed her very civilly that each patient is asked if they have their own transport and if they require hospital assistance, and it is explained that each space taken in the bus is precious as we had so many patients.  She replied that she saw no reason for her or her family to bear the cost of travel when 'we do it for free'.  Umm, no we didn't.  And every person who unnecessarily travels on the bus is taking a space that could be used for a genuinely deserving case.

One lady (nearly 70 yo)said she could make her own way here every day for her 30 day r/t treatment.  Round about day 5 we discovered that she had been getting up at 6, walking a mile and then travelling about 2 hours by bus to get to us, and the same on the way back!  And she started to cry when I told her I would have a bus at the door next morning to pick her up!  I was nearly crying too! She made up for everyone else!  :)

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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 10:14:41 AM »
i just spoke to one elderly woman in an attempt to get matched up with a driver so she could go shopping, etc.   Her list of requirements was so extensive that there is no way that one of our volunteer drivers would ever be able to fill it.    When I then refered her to the two mini-bus services, that wasn't going to work for this, that, and the other reason either.  Then she mentions that the assisted living complex where she resides has a staff that runs residents around town but THAT wasn't going to work either for five other reasons.  Total inflexibility.

GADS!   As it stands, she has just argued her way out of getting any rides anywhere from a total of four different options!   What is it with these people?   

"Im sorry, those are all of the options that I have to offer.  I hope you can find an acceptable one among them.  Please call us back when you do.  Thank you." [hangs up]


and no, beggars cant be choosers. 
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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2007, 10:45:33 AM »
She just moved here and her only family lives about an hour's drive away. 
I live an hour and 15 minutes from my mother's nursing home. Yes, she still wants ME to take her everywhere! Sometimes I can get my cousins to take her, but often it is me making a 120 mile round trip to take her maybe another 20-40 miles.
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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 12:23:11 PM »
My grandmother is like this. I can see my FIL being like this.

I thought that you knew that the world revolves around her and her wants. ::)

Yes too many people can't be flexible enough to actually be able to get help they want or need.

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Re: Beggers can't be choosers, or can they?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2007, 12:41:06 PM »
Her list of requirements was so extensive that there is no way that one of our volunteer drivers would ever be able to fill it.    When I then refered her to the two mini-bus services, that wasn't going to work for this, that, and the other reason either.  Then she mentions that the assisted living complex where she resides has a staff that runs residents around town but THAT wasn't going to work either for five other reasons.  Total inflexibility.
What can these requirements possibly be, that she can't work with four different options? She wants to have someone feed her peeled grapes while on board? There can't be anybody else sharing the ride? It has to be lemon scented? No fossil fuels used? Horse and carriage?