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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2007, 01:55:06 AM »
Zip, you're certainly waxing eloquently here!  I'm enjoying  your recent posts in this thread...and they've been personally quite helpful.  Just thought you'd like to know.  Thanks!

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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2007, 11:34:27 AM »
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I'm enjoying  your recent posts in this thread...and they've been personally quite helpful

Sorry to swipe Diva, but I have to echo this sentiment.  Before I posted that I hated the phrase, I thought I was the only one on the planet that hated the "forget" part.  I don't want to overstate anything, but I'm feeling better in just these few days about decisions I made years ago.  So, thank you. 

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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2007, 02:12:57 PM »
I will "forgive and forget" - but one of the things that I forget is why I ever thought that being "friends" with the person was a good idea in the first place............

So - once I have "forgiven and forgotten" - I re-evaluate the relationship in terms of where the two of us (or the group) is NOW.  If the old school friend is no longer someone that I feel comfortable having in my home (or in the worst case - DeHubby's old school friend and former room mate) or around my kids - then there is no longer a relationship to cultivate.

I admit that moving a lot (DeHubby retired from the military in 2005) meant that the list of "friends" got pruned down more often than someone who lived in the same community for thirty years might do.......but there are Christmas cards sent and received from people we haven't seen in person since 1985 (when we left Phoenix, Arizona).  There are other names that were dropped only when their cards started coming back marked "undeliverable".............and I still miss some of them.



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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2007, 02:17:38 PM »
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I'm enjoying  your recent posts in this thread...and they've been personally quite helpful

Sorry to swipe Diva, but I have to echo this sentiment.  Before I posted that I hated the phrase, I thought I was the only one on the planet that hated the "forget" part.  I don't want to overstate anything, but I'm feeling better in just these few days about decisions I made years ago.  So, thank you. 

I don't mind being "swiped" in this instance.  I think it's great, goblue!  Isn't it wonderful that when we help others here, we also find sage advice in unexpected forms, for ourselves too?

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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2007, 02:18:49 PM »
The act of apology also is an act of forgiveness for the apologizer -- the apologizer takes responsibility for the trespasses they have made against others and in doing so, unloads the weight of their emotional burdens and develops a better understanding of themselves. It is not an opportunity to make excuses for behavior. So I agree with everyone else in that it sounds like your wayward friend truly isn't apologizing. She probably has not dealt with the issues behind why she lashed out at you in the first place. If you did receive an actual apology, at that point you could consider whether this was a friendship worth pursuing again.

I ended a friendship with a woman following a heated battle of words between us that had been brewing for some time. Often I was hurt by her calous and rude behaviors over the years, but I'd let them go -- until I could no longer. Confronting her about her behavior resulted in a torrent of vile from her, to which I responded in kind. It was not pretty. I finally decided to take responsibility for my part of the disagreement and apologize to her. In forgiving her, I released the anxiety and pain inside of me and was able to forgive myself. However, there is no way I will ever reinstitute the friendship with her. Forgiveness, yes, but forgetting, no way.
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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2007, 02:22:41 PM »
Zip, you're certainly waxing eloquently here!  I'm enjoying  your recent posts in this thread...and they've been personally quite helpful.  Just thought you'd like to know.  Thanks!

Thanks, and you're welcome, both.  :)  This is a big deal for me, personally, so I have a bit of a soapbox about it. 

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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2007, 10:58:24 AM »
I don't mind being "swiped" in this instance.  I think it's great, goblue!  Isn't it wonderful that when we help others here, we also find sage advice in unexpected forms, for ourselves too?

It's what keeps me coming back.  :D

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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2007, 11:56:56 AM »
We are to forgive again and again and again, but we are not required to forget. 

I think that's what I need to remember. :)

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Re: Letter out of the blue
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2007, 09:12:39 PM »
I recently read an article that discussed the concept of "apology." It's a Newsweek article by Anna Quindlen, published this week.

What constitutes an apology? A celebrity apologizing for a bigoted rant? The phrase "I'm sorry you were offended?" An "I was messed up because XYZ and deserve understanding and forgiveness" letter? A line from the article really made me think:

"The sociolinguist says a true apology has four parts: admitting fault, showing remorse, acknowledging damage and indicating how it will be repaired. "


ETA: Article is political and I'm uncomfortable linking to it on this forum.
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