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TeamBhakta

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Re: "Watch my bags!"
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2014, 01:15:40 PM »
People always ask me to do that for them. I've had it happen at malls, festivals, college book buy back lines (although not in any airports that I can recall). Nope, won't do it. I'm a magnet for "you wanna watch my stuff" and "can I confide in you", gah

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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2014, 04:25:01 PM »
I'm surprised that people can't take their luggage in the toilets at airports. UK airports all have large cubicles in the toilets. Maybe this is just a feature in UK airports?

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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2014, 04:44:32 PM »
I'm surprised that people can't take their luggage in the toilets at airports. UK airports all have large cubicles in the toilets. Maybe this is just a feature in UK airports?
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Re: "Watch my bags!"
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2014, 05:23:32 PM »
I always take my luggage into the toilet stall (in experiences in the US and Latin America). The amount of luggage you can carry on will almost always fit into the stall.

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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2014, 05:53:45 PM »
I'm surprised that people can't take their luggage in the toilets at airports. UK airports all have large cubicles in the toilets. Maybe this is just a feature in UK airports?

This is something that always has me scratching my head. I've experienced airports all over the world, big and small. Airports are the one place people can reasonably be expected to have lot of "stuff" with them, even if it's just a pull along cabin bag on wheels. Yet most airports just don't seem to cater for this - food courts and shops are usually crammed, toilets are a maze of narrow corridors whilst the cubicles themselves are the same small size as anywhere else. Trying to maneuver a trolley with all your stuff on it can be a pain in the backside in those situations.

In the past I've been the single traveller having to wait in airports between connecting flights with a standard suitcase and carry ons. Pre-2011 I may have asked strangers to keep an eye on my suitcase whilst I quickly dashed off to the toilet, but I wouldn't do it now. (And the difference was I politely asked, not demanded, like the woman in the OP).  If I found myself in that situation today I'd probably just haul it all into one of the disabled access toilets as they usually have a more convenient location and entrance, not to mention being able to hold a trolley/suitcase.

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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2014, 06:32:48 PM »
Every airport I've been in (in the USA) has stalls in the restrooms that are plenty large enough for a person and all carry-ons. They're usually pretty deep so you can go in, close the door, and put the bags up against the closed door.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2014, 07:29:04 PM »
Every airport I've been in (in the USA) has stalls in the restrooms that are plenty large enough for a person and all carry-ons. They're usually pretty deep so you can go in, close the door, and put the bags up against the closed door.

When I posted earlier I mentioned that I would cheerfully look after the bags for someone travelling with kids or a kid. You can't get all that stuff into a stall without some serious acrobatics. And, as another person pointed out it's just silly. Sneaking a bomb through security just to leave it in boarding lounge?

A normal traveller? Shouldn't be a problem to get their stuff in the bathroom. But someone with reduced mobility or kids would find it challanging.

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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2014, 07:41:45 PM »
Demanding you watch them is rude, however asking doesn't seem unreasonable to me, depending on the circumstances.  A key point is if you have gone through security, so that likelihood that the bag is a bomb is far reduced.  I would have no issue in the food court is someone asked me to watch their bag while they went to get food so that they didn't have to juggle both, or while they went to a rest room.  I might keep an eye out for where they walked of to, and if an inordinate amount of time passed before they returned, I'd alert security, but for 5 min or so I wouldn't think it odd at all. 

I don't think what she was asking is that odd, and I can see being peeved that the person declined, however she should have asked not told you to watch them and taken your refusal more graciously. 

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2014, 08:31:57 PM »
Every airport I've been in (in the USA) has stalls in the restrooms that are plenty large enough for a person and all carry-ons. They're usually pretty deep so you can go in, close the door, and put the bags up against the closed door.

That's what I've done, even when bringing a carryon that was close to the maximum size (I was told that if you checked luggage to this particular place, you'd never get it back).  Never had a problem with it.  However, the size of the person may make a difference as well.  I could also see having kids being an issue--this was before I had kids.  With kids under 2, you'd probably want to take them in the stall with you, and that could get complicated if you were traveling alone.  It might also mean having more baggage, because you'd probably need at least a diaper and a separate carryon with entertainment stuff for the kids during flight.

This is why it's really nice having slightly older kids when you have a little one.  I *love* having a 7-year-old I can ask to hold the hand of the 1-year-old while I use the toilet in peace, or have her watch the bag so I don't have to take it in the stall.  Everybody should have a 7-year-old, they're awesome.   ;)
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2014, 09:21:59 PM »
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Sneaking a bomb through security just to leave it in boarding lounge?

The bag could have come from somewhere within the airport.  Security is not 100% airtight.  It is, however, stringent enough that someone who is up to no good might find it easier to exploit the weaknesses within the airport than trying to get something through the front door.

And a bomb going off in the boarding lounge can still kill and main and cause terror.  Anywhere that people queue or wait in numbers is an attractive target for terrorists.

I don't understand why anyone thinks its ok to watch a stranger's bag when there are regular announcements telling everyone specifically not to do it.  People shouldn't be so casual about something so important.

I think what the OP did was the safe thing--for all of us!




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Re: "Watch my bags!"
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2014, 10:15:28 PM »
Every airport I've been in (in the USA) has stalls in the restrooms that are plenty large enough for a person and all carry-ons. They're usually pretty deep so you can go in, close the door, and put the bags up against the closed door.

When I posted earlier I mentioned that I would cheerfully look after the bags for someone travelling with kids or a kid. You can't get all that stuff into a stall without some serious acrobatics. And, as another person pointed out it's just silly. Sneaking a bomb through security just to leave it in boarding lounge?

It's not like terrorists are a logical bunch. And they aren't opposed to using women or children to sneak in bombs

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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2014, 08:47:49 AM »
I think we've mostly forgotten due to the stringent security changes implemented since 9/11, but they've been saying to hold on to your own luggage and not to watch anyone else's since way before 2001. Airports and airplanes have been terrorist targets practically as long as there have been airlines. Baggage screening was first implemented in the 70s. And let's face it, 9/11 was almost 13 years ago.

So it's surprising to me that people would still think it's ok to let their belongings out of their sight for even a minute. I sure wouldn't do it no matter how inconvenient or cumbersome. And I'd never watch someone else's stuff.

Silly to leave your bomb inside the airport after getting it through security? Airports get bombed too, not just planes. Here's an article about this happening way back in 1975, so it's nothing new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_LaGuardia_Airport_bombing

To be honest, much of what they do to "secure" air travel does seem somewhat silly. It gives us a false sense of security. I've known people who have gone through the checkpoint and realized later they had a pocket knife or similar contraband in their luggage and had forgotten about it. But they'll confiscate your shampoo soon enough if it's over three ounces.

I guess they are doing the best they can but in the end, I think we also need to take some responsibility for safety. I just see being cavalier about our and others' belongings as irresponsible.
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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2014, 08:46:29 PM »
I think we've mostly forgotten due to the stringent security changes implemented since 9/11, but they've been saying to hold on to your own luggage and not to watch anyone else's since way before 2001. Airports and airplanes have been terrorist targets practically as long as there have been airlines. Baggage screening was first implemented in the 70s. And let's face it, 9/11 was almost 13 years ago.

So it's surprising to me that people would still think it's ok to let their belongings out of their sight for even a minute. I sure wouldn't do it no matter how inconvenient or cumbersome. And I'd never watch someone else's stuff.

Silly to leave your bomb inside the airport after getting it through security? Airports get bombed too, not just planes. Here's an article about this happening way back in 1975, so it's nothing new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_LaGuardia_Airport_bombing

To be honest, much of what they do to "secure" air travel does seem somewhat silly. It gives us a false sense of security. I've known people who have gone through the checkpoint and realized later they had a pocket knife or similar contraband in their luggage and had forgotten about it. But they'll confiscate your shampoo soon enough if it's over three ounces.

I guess they are doing the best they can but in the end, I think we also need to take some responsibility for safety. I just see being cavalier about our and others' belongings as irresponsible.

Very true. Based on the regions I travel around I'm actually more concerned about someone slipping illegal drugs into my bags than bombs going off.

On my last trip to the US, my toothpaste was confiscated at Brisbane airport. The tube description was 10gm over the limit but it was half used, so way under the actual weight amount. On the other hand, they didn't care about the three very sharp razors I had in the same overnight bag.  ::)

One other time my son's plastic toddler spoon was confiscated at the domestic airport as I went to farewell DH off. But they were fine with the sharp craft knife DH didn't realise he had left in his briefcase until he arrived at the hotel. ::)

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Re: "Watch my bags!"
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2014, 10:19:07 PM »
Every airport I've been in (in the USA) has stalls in the restrooms that are plenty large enough for a person and all carry-ons. They're usually pretty deep so you can go in, close the door, and put the bags up against the closed door.

I can't always get myself in easily, much less a bulky bag or two. So, I will only use handicapped stalls when hauling bags at airports.
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2014, 11:47:33 PM »
Back in the heady days of champagne breakfasts in economy class this was still a problem in airports.  It was common for thieves to sit next to someone and ask them to watch their bags while they went to the restroom.  Too often the unsuspecting person would agree, then ask the their to watch his/her bags, but when they returned there were no bags.

I had someone try this when I was a young soldier.  Fortunately I didn't fall for it.  Later I saw security escorting the woman away.

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