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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2014, 05:05:24 PM »
Please make sure its 100% gone before you go to the salon. I'm a stylist, if we find lice on someone they legally are not allowed to be in the salon. It's terribly embarrassing for us to have to ask someone to leave. Also the sanitation procedures take forever and we have to do them no matter what.
 
Short hair and long hair can get lice just as easy. My advice is to start putting mouse in her hair and braiding it before school. They suffocate with hair product and the braids make it harder for them to get in.




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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2014, 05:27:08 PM »
IMO, lice spreads more often through coats in the closet than through kid to kid contact. Tell DD to keep her jacket in her bookbag instead of on a hook.

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2014, 05:33:42 PM »
For some reason, these little buggers just love my granddaughter.  In the past year, she has had them three times.  And we have no idea where she picks them up.  She was not in daycare or school this last time, about a month ago.

You do not have to cut the hair.  Really, that is not going to help anyway, because they nits are laid close to the hair shaft.  I don't think you want to buzz cut your daughter's hair.

My daughter did not put any mayo, oils, etc. in my granddaughter's hair. 

The most diligent thing you can do is comb your child's hair daily, am and pm for at least two weeks, if not three, to get rid of all nits.  There is a special comb for this.

You do not have to wash bed linens daily.  You do however, should put them in the dryer for at least twenty minutes each day after the child wakes up and is done with the bed for the day.  The heat will kill any live lice.

Vacuum all areas of your home when you first notice the lice and then you should vacuum daily all areas that your child's head might come into contact with.  The back of the sofa, etc.  What people tend to forget is the car seat.  Vacuum your childs car seat and or the car seat itself. 

I would put any stuffed animals in the dryer for about twenty minutes also, but lice do not live off of the human body after 24 hours.  They also do not go onto dogs or cats, so your animals are safe.

Kids are no longer kept out of school due to lice.  My granddaughter did not miss any school during the school year. 
I remember back in the day when her mother had nits, (not the actual lice.  They were checking heads because someone did have them in her class, this was daycare).  I could not take her back until there were three nits or less.  This was a kid who also had long hair. 

For girls, it helps to keep hair in ponytails.  Also shampoos with rosemary or tea tree oil in them.

But, again, the thing that will really help is daily combing, am and pm, for the nits.  You have to catch the nits before they hatch. 

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2014, 06:47:09 PM »
In major cities, there are salons that specialize in treating lice. They can shampoo, style and cut hair as well. My DD found this out the hard way when her 14 year old daughter - and several friends - caught lice while on a sports team trip.   

Whatever treatment you choose, I would think carefully before cutting DD's hair. That could seem like a punishment for getting lice - and this isn't her fault. If she needs a trim and agrees to it, that's different. But going from long to short hair isn't necessary and could be traumatizing. 

My granddaughter's hair is still long, thick and shiny - and lice-free. 

This too shall pass. (Although it can drive you nuts for awhile when you're dealing with it!) 


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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2014, 07:02:06 PM »
The thing that my mother swore by (and I can attest to, I never had lice or nits ever) was that she'd put enough tea tree oil into some water that it smelled nice but not overpowering, and we'd get our hair sprayed with that after it was put up to go to school. Lice are repelled by the smell of the tea tree and don't go near kids/clothing that smells like it. Meant that coats and jackets got a spray, because we were wearing them.
I plan on doing the same thing for BabyDrifter when she starts going to school/preschool. But if you start to do that now, it may help lessen the chances of re-infestation.
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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2014, 10:31:43 AM »
In my area, schools and daycares are nit free.  DD had lice once.  The getting the nits is the hard part.  Killing the lice is much easier there are lots of non-chemical things that work.  As other mentioned, I used a nit comb and had DD watch tv and combed for hours and hours.

Vinegar in the hair really loosens the nits well and is cheap.  DD would wear a shower cap to cover as vinegar smells.  I did the treatment and combing every second day for a week. 

I think multiple treatments a week or two apart is the key as then you kill any new lice that may hatch before they can lay eggs.

I would only go to the salon after the lice has not returned, about a month, maybe give it 6 weeks.  However, as others mentioned all lengths of hair longer than an inch or 2 can get lice.  I also think hats and coats are the big issue.

To be honest we vacuumed and rather than doing tons of washing everything we just put it out in the shed for a few weeks and brought it back in then as any lice or eggs would be dead.  So I did wash the sheets but I didn't wash all the pillows.

ETA: Tea tree oil does work as well and my sister uses that to treat but also as a deterrent as she has one DD that seems to attract lice at least once a year.  I do have some at home but it is just a smell I cannot stand so I wouldn't be able to have DDs clothes smell like it as it just bothers me too much (like eucalyptus, cannot stand that either).  Lice don't like licorice either and some deterrent sprays are anise oil which I find nicer but my DH cannot stand.

I never had lice as a kid either in the 80s.  When DD got them a summer ago I did lots of research and I guess they are more pesticide tolerant now.  So when I was a kid and people used a pesticide it killed the bugs and the eggs and didn't really spread but now those don't work well and you can easily kill the bugs with lots natural things as they suffocate easy but unless you comb out every egg there is a chance they could hatch.  It is the combing that is a LOT of work and probably what is missed by some people allowing the lice to spread.
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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2014, 09:51:06 AM »
My advice is to start putting mouse in her hair and braiding it before school.

I apologize in advance for giggling at a typo, but it sounds like a case of the old woman who swallowed the fly - "We've gotten rid of the lice, but now how do we get the mice out of her hair?"
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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2014, 09:53:32 AM »
My kids had longish hair. We washed bedding/clothes, quarantined stuffed animals in garbage bags, vacuumed sofas....used what ever the doctor told us to (probably RID) and combed out the lice and nits.
Didn't cut their hair.  Did make sure their summer camp/school had places to put there stuff that was separated from other kids stuff....ie. that everyone had their own cubbies, not a big coat closet.

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2014, 11:56:50 AM »
My daughter got lice and was so kind as to share with me.    :( 

 Since no 8 yr old child is going to sit and comb mommy's hair like it needs to be comb, I was desperate.    Then I found LiceFree at Walgreen's.  Only place I have seen it.  It comes in hair wash, gel and mousse.  It also contains tea tree oil.  It does not require the combing.  I still combed my daughters hair and she would comb mine for all of 10 minutes, but it worked!!!!  And with it not having chemicals, safe to use when ever he hear about an outbreak at the school/daycare.

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2014, 12:13:36 PM »
Ugh.. I may have posted last year that my daughter got lice and it was such a pain. I treated it with chemicals. The box said that you should do the second treatment only if you still find signs of infection after a week. I combed that hair for a week solid. After seven days there was NOTHING-I used bright lights and magnifying glass. So I didn't do the second treatment. One week later, she was fully infected again.

The second time I did the chemical and then I did the comb out for a week or so with a large amount of carrier. I used large amounts of conditioner  (Suggested by the school board web page) . I also bought the specific, metal toothed nit comb instead of the cheap plastic comb. That actually worked better than the chemicals. (My chemicals stated NOT to use conditioner which is why I didn't combine the techniques earlier)

After combing out I would then filter the water that I had dipped the comb in and look for anything. (It was too gunky with conditioner to see what I was combing out). Once it was free of anything for three days I did it every second day and after a week, I dropped down to dry combing once a week-just to check.

Now that school has started I will comb weekly with the lice comb again. They are so sneaky. 

So: I suggest you just cut the hair at home so it will be easier to do all the combing. Then in a few weeks, get it tidied up at the hair dresser.

Good luck!

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2014, 12:29:54 PM »
I've had lice a couple of times in school, and then again when it was going around town. When I was in school, they found the infection source to be a cloth couch in one of the common areas, and then when it was going around town, it turned out to be from some large pillows in the library the kids were laying on to do hw.

As for getting rid of them the most recent time, I've found that the chemical shampoos were not working, as some strains of lice are becoming resistant to them. I've found the best way to treat them has been some of the more natural ways.

Also something that helped us immensely was something called Robi comb. It was battery operated, and made a small buzzing sound. When the comb bumped into a louse, it would electrocute it and the buzzing would change so you would know to pull it out of the hair and dispose of the dead louse. It only used one AA battery.

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2014, 02:07:17 PM »
Thank you all for the suggestions! Apologies for not coming back sooner, my husband had a fundraiser for his organization this last weekend, and, well, lice. I did probably 20 loads of laundry this weekend ("Wash all the bedding" becomes a real hassle when your kid likes to nest...)

We rinsed with cider vinegar, let it dry a bit, then put in coconut oil, under a shower cap, blow dried, and then let sit for ~20 minutes. Then a double wash, blow dry, let it dry completely, did the lice shampoo, washed again. The school nurse also recommended getting the battery-operated brush that zaps any live adults. She's getting checked every day and lice shampooed every few, since she still has to go to school. (They don't keep lice kids home anymore as far as I know, but the nurse did check on DD yesterday.)

So far we've found maybe 4 adults, and she's mentioned that her head isn't itching anymore, so that's a good sign! I have a bottle of tea tree oil by our front door that I applied to DD's backpack and jacket last year, but hadn't yet gotten around to it this year. Kicking myself a little!

The school nurse was great, she allowed me extra time to arrive (I work ~45 minutes from the school, and as it was Friday I had two very essential errands to run beforehand as well). She had also found an egg and bagged it so she could show me, gave us a comb, recommended various treatments, and reassured me that it happens to everyone (as the daughter of a doctor and a teacher, I already knew that, lol.) She also mentioned that they no longer have the funds to hand out lice combs and pamphlets to kids, which I thought was too bad. I remember getting the lice talk every year as a kid.

JoanPD, the nurse mentioned that lice are becoming resistant.  :-\

We do have an acquaintance who owns a salon and also has small kids. I may check in with her to see if she'd be open to coming over to cut DD's hair. There's just so much of it, it takes forever to dry and it's a hassle to shampoo and comb through it all.

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2014, 02:22:05 PM »
I'm a hair stylist and didn't read all the responses.   You need to make sure the lice is gone from your house and daughter well before you take her in for a cut.  I understand the chemicals to treat lice really thrash the hair, so a cut will help.    Do tell the stylist about the lice, they need to check your daughters scalp BEFORE shampooing her. 


I know it's very frustrating to rid your house of lice, but the stylists career is at stake if you take your DD if she even  *might* still be infected.   It would be not only rude but devastating to the salon if you do not take the right steps.   Sometimes you need to hire a crew to come to your house, even if it is expensive, to get it all.  That's honestly the best way unless you have the time to bleach and use heat to wash everything.  Don't forget pet bedding!    Even throw pillows that aren't necessarily washable can be infected.


Try to avoid sand boxes,  use hair spay and gel on DD, lice hate it. 

Good luck!

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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2014, 07:07:15 AM »
Do you mean to go while she still has lice (minor or not)? or after she has been cleared by the doctor? If she is still with lice/eggs, I don't think it's a matter of etiquette - i think it's just not allowed for a salon to handle her.

Once she's been cleared by her doctor as being clean, then she is not different from any other patron. As weeble wobble said - just let the stylist know.

In the UK, you have to use the specialists shampoos/body wash etc for a week after the last eggs were found to ensure there are none left to breed.  By that time you should also be able to be cleared by the Dr and then you should be OK to go to the hairdressers.
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Re: Haircuts After Lice
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2014, 12:54:32 PM »

We rinsed with cider vinegar, let it dry a bit, then put in coconut oil, under a shower cap, blow dried, and then let sit for ~20 minutes. Then a double wash, blow dry, let it dry completely, did the lice shampoo, washed again. The school nurse also recommended getting the battery-operated brush that zaps any live adults. She's getting checked every day and lice shampooed every few, since she still has to go to school. (They don't keep lice kids home anymore as far as I know, but the nurse did check on DD yesterday.)


As an aside, at my school, there was zero follow-up about the lice. I wrote an email to the class saying that she had it, but they are not expected to stay home and no-one checks. (Lice are a nuisance and REALLY icky, but they aren't a health hazard)

FWIW, we also have government health care so there may be less push to provide health care in school.