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Please keep your kids away from me
« on: January 10, 2007, 06:42:35 PM »
This thread was kind of inspired by the "Doesn't it make you want one?" thread. I'm talking about the situations in public when someone lets their kids run around, and they end up getting in your way, and the parent doesn't do anything about it. The worst is at restaurants booth-seating when the kid at the next booth will stand up on their seat and peer over at you while you're sitting there trying to have a meal and a nice visit with your friends. Or they go underneath your stall in the bathroom or dressing room, or just do anything that invades your space and property. Anywhere in public and some kid you've never seen before will come up and do something start bugging you, and the parents just think that it is sooo cute, and do nothing to stop little precious. I want to have kids of my own someday, but until that, I don't like little kids at all, and this aggravates me to no end when it happens. I don't know how to react, so most of the time I just ignore it when it happens and hide my irritation. I just wish that parents would realize that and not 'sic' their kids on me or any other strangers in public.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 06:46:08 PM »
Hi,  normally I don't like it when children invade my space in public.  But I've never understood why stding up in the booth is an invasion of space.  I will soon have a toddler and if I understand the objection then I am far more likely to make it a requirement not to do so.

I guess to me as long as the kid's shoes are clean (if he/she is old enough to walk) thenwhat's the harm. 

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 06:46:51 PM »
Perhaps it's the time to invest in having a "potential kidnapper" tshirt printed up?   ;)

Yeah, a valuable lesson to teach kids is to not invade the space of other people.  I appreciate when people at least make the effort to try to get their kids to not run amuck...
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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 07:25:22 PM »
Hi,  normally I don't like it when children invade my space in public.  But I've never understood why stding up in the booth is an invasion of space.  I will soon have a toddler and if I understand the objection then I am far more likely to make it a requirement not to do so.

I guess to me as long as the kid's shoes are clean (if he/she is old enough to walk) thenwhat's the harm. 

Standing up in a booth and leaning over and peering at me, making faces, etc., is an invasion of my space.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 07:28:22 PM »
Perhaps it's the time to invest in having a "potential kidnapper" tshirt printed up?   ;)

I've got a confession to make that is near to this. One time at a place I worked, this mother let her little monster run rampant. He came running into the breakroom and started bugging the heck out of myself and the others who were trying to eat and enjoy our lunch. He was in our faces yelling and trying to grab our food and stuff, just being a total brat and monster. When we complained to the mother, she snapped back that he wasn't doing anything wrong and just let him continue to do it. So the next time he did it to me, I told him that I was about to do something really bad to him if he didn't leave me alone. The mom overheard and came and took her kid away pretty fast.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 07:45:30 PM »
Hi,  normally I don't like it when children invade my space in public.  But I've never understood why stding up in the booth is an invasion of space.  I will soon have a toddler and if I understand the objection then I am far more likely to make it a requirement not to do so.

I guess to me as long as the kid's shoes are clean (if he/she is old enough to walk) thenwhat's the harm. 

People just don't like to be stared at when they are eating. I always tell my children to sit on their bums and face forward, and that it's rude to turn around and watch the table behind us.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 08:25:43 PM »
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Standing in the booth is an invasion of space if the kid is turned around facing the people in the booth behind them.  Would you appreciate it if a person of any age in the booth behind you turned and peered over to watch you eat?

Even if it wasn't an invasion of space- why not teach a kid right off the bat that furniture is not a jungle gym, and we sit in chairs?

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 08:55:39 PM »
I really don't understand some parents and their actions. Like the ones who think Little Pumpkin should definitely be allowed to run amok, but then when the child is kidnapped/scared/stepped on the mom screams at Little Pumpkin like he knew how to behave all along. Kids don't know what you don't teach them.




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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 09:17:47 PM »
I don't really care about kids standing in a booth and looking around.  I didn't let my kid do it, but I don't think they are in my space as long as they aren't in my booth.  I may not like it, but I can't control where other people look.  :)

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 09:37:43 PM »
I have a very garrolous child. I keep him corraled in public (usually in a shopping cart) but he loves to talk to the people, he always wants to know your name, what you're doing lala. I try to call him off people who obviously aren't into kids, but some people like to talk to little ones. I'll tell him "The nice lady is busy sweetie, let's let her do her job", or something of that ilk.
I do not let him climb all over booths. I don't like it when someone's kid is being allowed to run wild. Though if someone's child pops up and smiles at me or whatever over the booth I smile at them. It annoys me if the parent doesn't stop them though.
My son was trying to feed a lady in the booth behind us french fries one day. I snagged him pretty quick and the lady was laughing her head off about it. It was so embarrassing, but she said it made her day.
But I do try to keep him out of people's way. We have a strict hand holding policy, and he does know better than to run around. And if he does, this magical thing happens...I go get him. Amazing how that works, isn't it??
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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 10:15:09 PM »
On one of our rare child-free weekends, my husband and I went for lunch at a nice restaurant.  We chose this place, because it's not appropriate for young children, so we rarely get to eat there.  Of course someone decided to bring their two year old and allowed it to sit under the table and scream/cry at the top of his lungs.  The parents did nothing.  Finally the person sitting at the booth next to them, asked if they could do something about it.  The mom snapped back to him, you don't know what it likes to raise kids.  I really had to bite my tongue to keep from saying that I knew it meant to not take a small child to an adult only restaurant, and if my child acted up I knew to take her outside so as to not disturb the other customers.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2007, 02:38:52 AM »
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It seems to be a thing of recent times, that more often than not, people let their children run amok in restaurants and stores. This sort of thing was rare as  was growing up  (I'm 41, if that helps set the generation level)

We I was a child we learnt our table manners at home which meant sitting at the table through the entire meal and only leaving the table after we had asked for, and been granted, permission to do so. As such when, on the rare occasion, we went to a restaurant we behaved exactly the same way. There was no reason to leave the table (except to go to the toilet) so we never even asked. We sat there and ate our dinner and talked politely with our family. 
If we went to the shops with our mother we stayed at her side, or were ona leash until we understood this was the rule. We knew never to touch anything on the shelves without asking, because we had been brought up to not touch things that did not belong to us at home or when out visiting. As I grew older I saw most of my cousins being brought up the same way. No one (except for one aunty) ever said anything like he/seh doesn't know any better or he/she is only a baaaayyybeee/chyyyyyld. Our parents were responsible for our behaviour and we jolly well knew to whom we were answerable.

So... you can understand why I agree with your feelings about parents not allowing their children to invade the space and lives of all around them.



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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2007, 02:56:38 AM »
I'm not a fan of children standing in booths looking at you becasue its NEVER just that, they always put their hands on the seat (which comes really close to bumping into you or ur fellow diner's shoulders) or squawk or make faces or jump or other annoying things. 

It's not appropriate for a 32 year old to do it so its not ok for a 3 year old to do it either. Plus... why would you let them anyways? Its a resteraunt - teach them good manners. Even if its a casual resteraunt its a good place to start teaching them how to act out in public/at resteraunts etc.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2007, 04:34:45 AM »
Hi,  normally I don't like it when children invade my space in public.  But I've never understood why stding up in the booth is an invasion of space.  I will soon have a toddler and if I understand the objection then I am far more likely to make it a requirement not to do so.

I guess to me as long as the kid's shoes are clean (if he/she is old enough to walk) thenwhat's the harm. 

The harm is teaching a child that it's acceptable to treat furniture like a stepping stool, that's it's perfectly acceptable to stare, and that meal time is play time, as opposed to time to eat, talk, and spend time together as a family. 

Granted, no one will be physically harmed by the child.  However, it can be exceedingly annoying to try and enjoy a meal and/or talk to a friend while a 3 year old is staring at you. As anyone who's ever had children can tell you, they generally don't just stare.  They fidget (which can jar guests at an adjoining booth), they make faces, they point, etc. It's quite rude, honestly.  Basic manners state that you SIT at the breakfast/lunch/dinner table.

I am a proud parent and I, too, am appalled at the way parents of my generation (30something) are handling their children.  I'm trying to raise a young lady (so far, so good.. 13 and still polite and deferential to adults) and these cretins let their children behave like animals.  Disciplining a child doesn't make them love you less or "stifle" them, it turns them into pleasant adults.

You know those adults who have to have things their way all the time?  The ones who show absolute disregard to those around them?  That was them, as children.  No one taught them better. 

When we're the adults, we should.
 

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2007, 05:03:09 AM »

Maybe it's just the teacher in me but I tend to address the child.

(At their level, in best "teacher" voice.)
 
As in:

"It is impolite to stare at others while they are eating.  Please turn around now."

"Please move now as I might step on you." or "You need to go back to your folks now."

(or in the case of the four year old that pushed Boo at the Library last week)

"You not push other children. Ever. Do I make myself clear?"

I sometimes get evil stares or blank looks but the majority of the time the kids do what they are told.

As a side note:  I've just started student teaching 2-5 years and you would be amazed what they are capable of manner-wise!