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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2007, 01:10:39 PM »
Pixie, I can't imagine. That is just so horrifying. I hope you gave those parents a piece of your mind and that they were very apologetic and paid for your dry-cleaning bill. That explains exactly why I don't like kids in restaurant booths hovering over mine, God knows what they're about to do next!


No, I never said a word to the parents, and they never said a word.   The dress could not be cleaned, it went into the trash.   No,  I didn't ask for anything from the parents.   I was just too embarrassed  and so uncomfortable I just wanted to go home, change, and PAY THE SITTER who was watching my kids.  Hubby and I  watched a movie and went to bed.    Neither of us was in a very romantic mood after that.    But it was just one anniversary, we've had 18 others and the 20th one will be in June.





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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2007, 01:21:44 PM »
When a child or anyone is doing something that bothers me, I have the right to speak up and let them know. And I am not going to go through a third party to do so.

If my child "bothered" you and you went directly to him when neither of you are in a situation that requires you to act immediately, I would be "bothered" by it enough to speak up, as well.  I don't know that I have "the right" to do it, but I'll take your word for it.  :)

I guess it depends on what your definition of a situation where one needs to act immediately is. Like veryfluffy said, children are not exempt from proper behavior in public, and they will be called on it whether you like it or not.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2007, 02:17:35 PM »
And I will correct people who do it if there is a situation that I am able to handle....people may or may not like it.  :)  But, adults are not exempt from proper behavior, either.

My son went through a phase where he was very interested in the button in elevators that calls the Fire Department.  He never pushed it -- never even came close.  But, he wanted a nice look at it, and he wanted to talk about it.  He loved elevators and escalators and I would often use them as behavioral rewards, so we visited them frequently.  It was not unusual during that time for people to tell him not to touch the button.  And, I invariably had to tell them that I had it under control.  After all, he wasn't riding in the elevator alone, he had his mother with him.  This was something that obviously "bothered" people....but it was a non-issue, and they needed to mind their own business, because at that age, he hadn't been taught how to discern when and if it was appropriate to take direction from strangers.  He had, however, been taught notto touch the button.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2007, 02:29:55 PM »
And I will correct people who do it if there is a situation that I am able to handle....people may or may not like it.  :)  But, adults are not exempt from proper behavior, either.

My son went through a phase where he was very interested in the button in elevators that calls the Fire Department.  He never pushed it -- never even came close.  But, he wanted a nice look at it, and he wanted to talk about it.  He loved elevators and escalators and I would often use them as behavioral rewards, so we visited them frequently.  It was not unusual during that time for people to tell him not to touch the button.  And, I invariably had to tell them that I had it under control.  After all, he wasn't riding in the elevator alone, he had his mother with him.  This was something that obviously "bothered" people....but it was a non-issue, and they needed to mind their own business, because at that age, he hadn't been taught how to discern when and if it was appropriate to take direction from strangers.  He had, however, been taught notto touch the button.

You do make a very good point about taking direction from strangers. When it is okay and not okay to talk to/interact with strangers can be very confusing for a child. We don't ever want to give the impression that strangers' instructions must always be followed - most of them are perfectly nice, well-intentioned people, but some of them are not.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2007, 02:48:41 PM »

It's a parent job to discipline their child, and when strangers do it for them they both let the parent off the hook and potentially intervene inappropriately with the child.

I agree that if one has a problem with a child, one should tell the parents and the parents should handle it.  But what should one do if the parents know that the child is misbehaving but the parents do little to correct the child's behavior?  I remember eating at a restaurant in Arizona with friends and having the child sitting in the both behind us not only standing up in her seat but she would hang over the seat and reach for my camera bag.  Her father kept apologizing to me and telling her "Honey, don't do that" but that really did not stop her from misbehaving.   

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2007, 02:52:10 PM »
I remember Hubby's and my 18th anniversary when my new dress I had bought for the occasion was ruined when the child in the booth behind us, threw up down my back.

That's awful, and of course he couldn't have thrown up down your back if he'd been sitting down in his seat, facing front. 

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2007, 03:01:29 PM »
But these days, some parents out there just seem to think that parenthood gives them ultimate entitlement rights to any kind of behavior. And when you call them on it, then they get all angry and defensive and accuse you of being anti-child. 
 
 

As a single and child-free woman, I get that feeling very distinctly.  It's as though some parents think that having had children makes them better than someone who has never been a parent.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2007, 04:10:09 PM »
And I will correct people who do it if there is a situation that I am able to handle....people may or may not like it.  :)  But, adults are not exempt from proper behavior, either.

My son went through a phase where he was very interested in the button in elevators that calls the Fire Department.  He never pushed it -- never even came close.  But, he wanted a nice look at it, and he wanted to talk about it.  He loved elevators and escalators and I would often use them as behavioral rewards, so we visited them frequently.  It was not unusual during that time for people to tell him not to touch the button.  And, I invariably had to tell them that I had it under control.  After all, he wasn't riding in the elevator alone, he had his mother with him.  This was something that obviously "bothered" people....but it was a non-issue, and they needed to mind their own business, because at that age, he hadn't been taught how to discern when and if it was appropriate to take direction from strangers.  He had, however, been taught notto touch the button.

See, but you're one of them there responsible-type parents, who would agree that it is Not The Thing To Do to draw on other people and would want to know.  There are the other types (and I think that this is the type most people are referring to here) that think I am being a big meanie for stifling their child's creativity.  There are also those that want other adults to discipline their kids because they don't want to appear "mean."  Seen that, too.

If your child, for example, had slid off (and they can be fast suckers...) and was about to put his hands into the punchbowl, I would say something and then follow it with "Let's go find your Mommy" (if I knew the child's Mom) or "Can you show me your Mommy?" (if I don't).

I don't think there's a single thing wrong with that.  If you disagree, fine.  But I am not fond of punch that had hands in it, child or adult.

I certainly wouldn't say anything about the button pushing unless his little fingers were ooooooooh so close and you were busy talking to the person next to you and didn't see.  One of my favorite things to ask a little kid about to do something out of eyeshot from their parents (or below the radar) is "Are you sure you want to do that?" with a smile.  Kids generally stop to think about it.  The "thinking faces" that little kids have can be so cute. 

That generally gets the attention of whomever's kid it is and they handle the situation accordingly.  And this, too is only used in situations where the child's action would have "consequences" (drawing on furniture, putting their food under the sofa cushions (yup - seen it), pulling or touching hair, etc).  Staring at me is not on that list.

I'm a "skin off my nose" kinda gal.  If whatever it is that's going on is no skin off my nose, then I really don't care, even if it is irritating (hope that makes sense).  I am not fond of kids staring at me over th booth (not fond of ANYONE doing that, really).  But - it's no skin off my nose.  That, and I can make some really good faces.  If I can make a staring child giggle, it's a good night.  But leaning over, trying to touch or grab - no.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2007, 04:34:14 PM »
You describe a different situation, though, one in which my chld "slid off," so I'm not obviously not there to correct a problem.  Until now, we had been referring to children who are within arm's length of a parent. 


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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2007, 04:52:53 PM »
Maybe it's just the mother in me but I tend to address teacher in others.  :)  I really am not in favor of my child doing what they are told by complete strangers, so my response would be:  "Please speak to me if you have an issue with my child's behavior and he is within arm's reach of me."

I generally agree with you, especially in the case of people who are simply observing a situation and feel they have a right to pipe in and tell the child what they are doing is dangerous, rude, etc. However, if a child is doing something directly to me, I will address the child directly. For example, a child was kicking the back of my seat in the movie theater and I turned and asked him to please stop. Or when I was trying on bridal gowns and this girl kept trying to fluff my dress for me so constantly that I couldn't get a look at the profile of the dress in the mirror. I asked her to stop touching my dress as well.

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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2007, 06:25:27 PM »
When a child or anyone is doing something that bothers me, I have the right to speak up and let them know. And I am not going to go through a third party to do so.

If my child "bothered" you and you went directly to him when neither of you are in a situation that requires you to act immediately, I would be "bothered" by it enough to speak up, as well.  I don't know that I have "the right" to do it, but I'll take your word for it.  :)

Okay, but what about when you're not a complete stranger and you wait for the parents to take action and not only do they not take control of the situation, they turn around and reward their child for misbehaving, are you then allowed to say something, or should you just write them off as a bad risk?  I ask because this happened to us recently, and I quietly made a comment (a question really) about what was happening and got my head chewed off because I don't have kids and have no idea how hard it is. Sorry, I didn't realize it was mission impossible to keep a child from playing with food at the dinner table. Particularly when said child wasn't at the table to begin with and you gave her the items to play with while we were in the middle of dinner. And then reward them with cookies for pouring juice on the table and smashing glasses when stopped from flinging the juice everywhere.

And if the situation had continued, I really would have been put in a bad position.  Do you ask your hosts to pay for the dry cleaning before you leave? Or do you wait until they get back from the hospital to ask?  And yes, this all happened at the dinner table, right in front of the parents.

Sorry. A little grumpy about the incident still.  My "friend" knows DH and I can't have children, but decided to throw that in my face at the time.  >:(
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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2007, 06:33:00 PM »
I've been known to tell a child jumping in the booth behind me or Chip, "Stop flirting with me/my husband!" in a humorous tone. It's usually so confusing to the child that he/she turns back to the parents. (And the parents are usually cracking up at what I said.)

I wish, yea verily, pray that parents will watch their children. I have to say that it's refreshing to see good parents these days. For instance, 99% of the children in our church are well behaved, and the one percent that aren't, well, I can see why they aren't.
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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2007, 06:37:39 PM »
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And if the situation had continued, I really would have been put in a bad position.  Do you ask your hosts to pay for the dry cleaning before you leave? Or do you wait until they get back from the hospital to ask?  And yes, this all happened at the dinner table, right in front of the parents.

Sorry. A little grumpy about the incident still.  My "friend" knows DH and I can't have children, but decided to throw that in my face at the time. 

Arrgh!! I can't even imagine. Maybe you are better off without such a "friend." I send you a cyberhug and a cold Coke.
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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2007, 09:02:55 PM »
I'm still a little confused about what I should have said/done about the Mom who WATCHED her child go into my purse, take out my keys, and then hid the keys from me, claiming he had "lost" them.   This was at my niece's birthday party.  I didn't know what to do, so I asked her to find my keys.   The keys were found about an hour later by my nephew.....  in the neighbor's yard across the street.

I put my keys on my wrist and locked my purse in the car.     I was told I was being rude by asking Her, a guest at the party, to find my keys.    I still don't think I was the rude one.    (BTW, nephew got a hug, a thank you and 20 bucks from his grateful aunt for finding my keys!)


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Re: Please keep your kids away from me
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2007, 09:16:01 PM »
I do not care if she was a guest or not, you had a right to ask her to find your keys.   After all, it was her child that hid them and she was the one responsible for her child's behavior.  This woman is extremely lucky that her child did not steal a prescription medication that you needed to take on schedule or pepperspray in your purse.
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