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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2007, 12:15:32 PM »
And, I'm sorry but you DON'T always have a choice. because life involves interractions with other people and sometimes those people make choices themselves that profoundly affect our lives. And sometimes not a thing that we can do will make the effect of someone else's choices any easier for us to deal with. It happens. Or we DO have a choice, but it's a choice between surviving with something that makes us unhappy or not surviving with something we enjoy. That, IMO, is not REALLY a choice. But it is life.

fklwmn, I understand where you are coming from, it sounds like you have faced some troubles in your life.  I think we've been over the issue that when you truly dont have a choice, it is about how you deal with that situation in life (positively or negatively), no matter what that situation is. 

The only thing that I really take exception to is the sentence about your definition of not having a choice - it sounds to me more like you think it's not a choice when you just dont like the options presented (ie they both represent something negative).  I think that is a fundamental difference. 

Not trying to convince you to change your life philosophy here, just want to clarify the issue.  There will always be people on both sides of the spectrum. 

I just want to clarify... I think it's not a choice when one of the options is not realistic for survival, ie... I hate my job. but it pays enough that I can pay the bills, feed and clothe my kids, etc... The kinds of job I would REALLY like to be working in is one that pays 1/2 to *maybe* 2/3 (on a high scale) of what I'm making now, which is not even enough to scrape by. So I can choose to work in a job I enjoy, but would not be able to provide for my family. IMO, that's not really a choice b/c I HAVE to provide for my family. So, I work in a job I don't like. 

ok, again, not trying to be belligerent here (I know it's tough to tell online) but it was your choice to have a family, and the consequences of that decision are yours to bear - both the positive and the negative.  Also, you have chosen that supporting your family financially is more important than being a job that you love, thus you stay in a job that you hate.  I admire that choice, and I know many people who have NOT made that choice and their resulting home life reflects that choice.

My point is that you have set your priorities, and you  have made your decisions according to those priorites.  But those priorities were your choice.  So how you deal with them is up to you.  And how you deal with them impacts your life. 

I have done the same, along with everyone else on this board (and everyone in general). 

Okay, I see your point. It seems we are going to have to agree to disagree on the definition of choice. Obviously you technically have a CHOICE if you want to do ANYTHING or not... up to and including getting out of bed every morning.

I can't operate by that definition of choice, and I don't think it's realistic when your post is about how people can change things they don't like in life. "Hey, don't complain about hating your job - just take one you'd love that would end up with you homeless and getting your kids taken away!" To me a REAL choice is between 2 viable options. Neither has to be ideal, but they'd both have to be realistic for survival at at least a basic level. So, by my definition (because I can't imagine living by the other definition) there are times you really DON'T have a choice and you just have to suck it up and deal. Which is fine, but you can't suck it up and deal froever, and everyone needs a little downtime, and as far as I'm concerned everyone deserves a good whine once in a while.
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2007, 12:16:15 PM »
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I don't believe or agree that 90% of life sucks.  But that is a matter of perspective and opinion.  

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I just think it's not fair for us to be expected to ALWAYS be able to make changes to improve the things we dislike about our lives. Some things we CAN'T change. Some things we CAN change, but changing it to something we'd like better would overall have a negative impact on our life. And sometimes we are just so mired down by everything piling up that it's impossible to see a way out, regardless of how apparent to everyone who is looking in from the outside.

I don't expect people to be ALWAYS able to make changes or improve.
What we can't change for whatever reason then we choose to accept.  
And if we can change but don't because we feel the change would have a negative impact that is a choice.

These are the things I believe and live by:

1. Life is never going to be 'fair' whatever that means.
  
2. Ignoring a problem or not dealing with it is a choice.  

3. You can change your situation or you can accept it.  And acceptance is a valid choice.

4. You can not change other people, you can only change how you decide to react or not react to them or whether you will interact with them or not.  

5. Don't be surprised when predictable people act in predictable ways.

6. People can only take advantage of you if you let them

7. "No", "No Thank you", or "I don't think so" are good phrases to learn and remember when others want to impose.

I have more and I won't impose them on you.

And we all whine occasionally it is part of the human condition, but it cannot be our only way of coping with our lives.


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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2007, 12:24:23 PM »
Okay, I see your point. It seems we are going to have to agree to disagree on the definition of choice. Obviously you technically have a CHOICE if you want to do ANYTHING or not... up to and including getting out of bed every morning.

I can't operate by that definition of choice, and I don't think it's realistic when your post is about how people can change things they don't like in life. "Hey, don't complain about hating your job - just take one you'd love that would end up with you homeless and getting your kids taken away!" To me a REAL choice is between 2 viable options. Neither has to be ideal, but they'd both have to be realistic for survival at at least a basic level. So, by my definition (because I can't imagine living by the other definition) there are times you really DON'T have a choice and you just have to suck it up and deal. Which is fine, but you can't suck it up and deal froever, and everyone needs a little downtime, and as far as I'm concerned everyone deserves a good whine once in a while.

actually, I do agree with your definition that the choices have to be viable (ie someone holds a gun to your head and says 'do X or die' - NOT a viable choice).  I just think that a viable option in your case, for example, is to view your job as a vehicle through which you provide for your family, rather than as a 'job you hate.' The people I am talking about didnt send their family to the homeless shelter, but they did make some very tough choices about the life that they led. 

And yes, sometimes people need a good whine sometimes.  But sometimes is different than a whiny life perspective.
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2007, 12:26:50 PM »
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I can't operate by that definition of choice, and I don't think it's realistic when your post is about how people can change things they don't like in life.

I wasn't just about change it is about acceptance.  

I have been in jobs I hated because I needed the benefits for my children.  But I think at these points you have to set goals in the future.  Kids don't stay little forever or stay with you.  How can you change your situation in the future if not now?

Sometimes you have to accept your situation as it is now, but you don't have to be stuck forever.

Can you go to school?  Can you find people in the kind of job you want so you can hear about possible jobs in the future that might work?  Can you get a better job now, even if it isn't what you want but is better than what you have now?

What are your options, if not now, then in 1 year, 5 years, 10 years down the road?  

I was 40 before I got the job I had always wanted.  My kids were in high school.  I had been working at various minimum wage jobs and cleaning other peoples houses, and doing daycare for years before I was able to get where I wanted to be.  It was worth the journey.

And my dream job has sometimes been a nightmare too.  


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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2007, 12:35:16 PM »
Okay, I see your point. It seems we are going to have to agree to disagree on the definition of choice. Obviously you technically have a CHOICE if you want to do ANYTHING or not... up to and including getting out of bed every morning.

I can't operate by that definition of choice, and I don't think it's realistic when your post is about how people can change things they don't like in life. "Hey, don't complain about hating your job - just take one you'd love that would end up with you homeless and getting your kids taken away!" To me a REAL choice is between 2 viable options. Neither has to be ideal, but they'd both have to be realistic for survival at at least a basic level. So, by my definition (because I can't imagine living by the other definition) there are times you really DON'T have a choice and you just have to suck it up and deal. Which is fine, but you can't suck it up and deal froever, and everyone needs a little downtime, and as far as I'm concerned everyone deserves a good whine once in a while.

actually, I do agree with your definition that the choices have to be viable (ie someone holds a gun to your head and says 'do X or die' - NOT a viable choice).  I just think that a viable option in your case, for example, is to view your job as a vehicle through which you provide for your family, rather than as a 'job you hate.' The people I am talking about didnt send their family to the homeless shelter, but they did make some very tough choices about the life that they led. 

And yes, sometimes people need a good whine sometimes.  But sometimes is different than a whiny life perspective.

Ok, I will agree with you. And I agree with your definition of what MY choice is, and 99% of the time, that's the choice I make. It doesn't change the fact that I am essentially miserable 9 hours every day, it just keeps me from focusing on that misery both while I am stuck in it, and while I'm doing other things. Like I said in my first post, you muddle through the 90% of life that sucks to get to the 10% that makes it worth it.

But when I *do* complain about my job, the last thing I want to hear is someone telling me that I just need to find another one. I am the MOST miserable in my job when I'm looking for another one b/c it's when I'm being repeatedly reminded how I can NOT afford to work doing something I'd LOVE to do. If I'm complaining about my job, it's just a vent. I need a sympathetic ear, and nothing more then I can get it off of my chest and move on.

That's why I tend to do most of my venting in my blog. People who read my blog and don't know me probably think I am the most miserable person alive. But I can vent there and not worry about anyone trying to 'fix' anything. Of course, I get a lot moer people reading my blog when I'm feelin depressed and am posting abou that than I do when I'm posting good stuff. Misery loves company, I guess ;D

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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2007, 12:38:18 PM »
fklwmn, I sincerely hope your situation improves. 
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2007, 12:47:12 PM »
fklwmn, I sincerely hope your situation improves. 

Thank you. I'm actually not all that miserable in general. Well, over the past few months I've been trying to get through a rough patch... but for the most part I'm not a miserable person. I just accept that life is never going to be what I want it to be, and I focus on the few things that ARE what I want them to be. 

This thread just REALLY hit a sore spot with me b/c the rough patch i'm going through is something I had ZERO choice about, it was thrust upon me and I was left to deal with it the best that I can. It bothers me to hear people make a blanket statement that you have a choice to change the things in your life that you aren't happy with when some things are not your choice at all. And no, I am not referring to my job situation.
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2007, 01:24:36 PM »
fklwmn,

Hang in there.  I know you can't see anyway out of your situation right now, but it is important to remember that nothing is permanent.  Just because you don't see your job situation changing in the forseeable future doesn't mean there isn't new stuff down the road. 

If you are a person of faith then you know this is true and if you are an atheist you should know that there is always unexpected things happening.

I have been one month away from being homeless and the only reason I wasn't was due to family. 

I guess I have perspective now that I am old.

I remember being 27 and telling my DH that I couldn't foresee anything better than we had right then.  That life would always be a struggle and we would never get our head above water. 

And I believed that if I ever spent any money on myself for even a new lipstick let alone a night out to dinner, I would be punished by needing that money the next week for the car or a doctor visit for the kids or whatever.

My life isn't perfect now.  I still have problems.  But at least I have perspective now to realize that what I am going through right now is not forever.  It just seems like it sometimes. So I accept my situation, change what I can and move on.

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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2007, 04:33:35 PM »
I posted in a previous thread that I hated the phrase, "nobody makes you feel a certain way, you choose to feel a certain way".  I still disagree with this phrase when people dictate that I choose to feel a certain way in bad situations.  However, something else I believe is that you can't help how you feel about something, but you can help what you do about it.  I agree with the OP that people have a choice in most situations and people often take the choice of staying in the situation and continue to complain.  However some situations are no-win, so eventhough the person has a choice of whether to stay in the situation or get out, when neither choice is desirable, the person probably feels stuck.

I agree that sometimes people just need to whine and vent about how something is unfair.  Take for example the bad roomate situation.  The person wouldn't have agreed to live with bad roomate if they knew how it would turn out and they know they need to move to solve the problem.  It may be more complicated than just moving, the person may not be able to afford a place of their own or find another roomate.  As somebody else stated, situations like that are unfair because the victim has to go through the troubles of securing a new place, moving, etc. so they may feel the need to vent about how somebody else's rudeness is causing them a bunch of trouble.

The mother in law situation is another example.  There are a few choices, put up MIL's comments, tell her off, or refuse to see her.  However, there are consequences to taking steps to solve the original problem.  If you tell your MIL off or refuse to see them, that may put strain on your relationship with your husband and other members of his family.  So although the person has a choice of telling MIL off, they would also have to suffer the consequences and have to pick which is worse, MIL comments or possible problems with DH and the rest of the in-laws. 

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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2007, 05:32:01 PM »
fklwmn, I sincerely hope your situation improves. 

Thank you. I'm actually not all that miserable in general. Well, over the past few months I've been trying to get through a rough patch... but for the most part I'm not a miserable person. I just accept that life is never going to be what I want it to be, and I focus on the few things that ARE what I want them to be. 

This thread just REALLY hit a sore spot with me b/c the rough patch i'm going through is something I had ZERO choice about, it was thrust upon me and I was left to deal with it the best that I can. It bothers me to hear people make a blanket statement that you have a choice to change the things in your life that you aren't happy with when some things are not your choice at all. And no, I am not referring to my job situation.


The "you have a choice" part is quite a sore spot for me, too, which is why I posted earlier in this thread. I don't think the OP meant that you can ALWAYS change things, but that's how this particular phrase sounds sometimes, doesn't it?

I have health problems. They are genetic. I didn't ask to be born with these genes, nor do I get any say in how sick I get because of them. The only choices I have are to whine, to not whine, or to put a gun to my head and "fix" them once and for all. These are pretty lousy choices.
Most of the time I don't whine, but I have had the occasional pity party - most of us have (I don't have any problem with pity parties, since they usually involve stuffing myself with chocolate ;D)

I think a better way to phrase it would be "You have a choice to make the best of what you have, or not." I'd say you are on the right track with that, since you have mentioned already that you put up with things you don't like for the good stuff, like your boys. Just keep thinking of them, and the other good things in your life. :)
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2007, 07:18:25 PM »
fklwmn, I sincerely hope your situation improves. 

Thank you. I'm actually not all that miserable in general. Well, over the past few months I've been trying to get through a rough patch... but for the most part I'm not a miserable person. I just accept that life is never going to be what I want it to be, and I focus on the few things that ARE what I want them to be. 

This thread just REALLY hit a sore spot with me b/c the rough patch i'm going through is something I had ZERO choice about, it was thrust upon me and I was left to deal with it the best that I can. It bothers me to hear people make a blanket statement that you have a choice to change the things in your life that you aren't happy with when some things are not your choice at all. And no, I am not referring to my job situation.


The "you have a choice" part is quite a sore spot for me, too, which is why I posted earlier in this thread. I don't think the OP meant that you can ALWAYS change things, but that's how this particular phrase sounds sometimes, doesn't it?

I have health problems. They are genetic. I didn't ask to be born with these genes, nor do I get any say in how sick I get because of them. The only choices I have are to whine, to not whine, or to put a gun to my head and "fix" them once and for all. These are pretty lousy choices.
Most of the time I don't whine, but I have had the occasional pity party - most of us have (I don't have any problem with pity parties, since they usually involve stuffing myself with chocolate ;D)

I think a better way to phrase it would be "You have a choice to make the best of what you have, or not." I'd say you are on the right track with that, since you have mentioned already that you put up with things you don't like for the good stuff, like your boys. Just keep thinking of them, and the other good things in your life. :)

Good point, Blue (by the way, I don't know how you feel about people telling you they're sorry that you're so sick, so I'm not going to say it, I'm just going to send you some healing vibes).  Anyway, there are some situations where there really IS no choice, and yours is definitely one of them.

On a smaller scale, though, I'd just like to point out that another thing that really annoys me is when the people saying "you have a choice" are the very people who are creating that unfair situation in the first place, and then shift the blame back to the original person with the "you have a choice" line.  For example, when I was in high school, we had several vending machines throughout the first floor of the school, which was all well and good, EXCEPT for the fact that those machines would sometimes take people's money without giving anything in return.  Anyway, I guess the school got sick of people going to the office to ask what to do about it that they came up with a "solution," which was to post a sign on the door of the phys. ed. office saying "Vending Machine Refunds--See Mr. Gymjock on Tuesday and Thursday afternoons from 2:35-2:45."  For the record, that time was sort of the "rush" time between the dismissal bell, and the boarding of buses/beginning of all the after-school activities.  So, often, Mr. Gymjock wasn't available during his "appointed" time, if he was sick, if he'd left early to coach an away game, if he was still AT school, but coaching a home game......in fact, it got so that when people were expecting Mr. Gymjock to give them their vending machine refunds on Tuesdays and Thursdays, he'd be unavailable more often than he'd be available, much to the dismay of the crowds of people lining up outside his office.  However, one Tuesday afternoon, when I'd been ripped off on a few occasions over the past week or so, I'd had enough.  Mr. Gymjock wasn't in his office at 2:35, so I left, and I found him in the front foyer of the school, not doing anything important, but just chatting with another gym teacher, Mr. Skinhead (who, by the way, was actually very nice).  The ensuing exchange went something like this:

ME: "Umm, Mr. Gymjock?"

MR GYMJOCK: "Freakyfemme, can't you see I'm busy talking to Mr. Skinhead?  He has something really important to say to me."

MR. SKINHEAD:  "Blah, blah, blah, Senior Boys' Rugby."

ME:  "Well, Mr. Gymjock, *I* have something important to say to *you.*  There are about five people waiting outside your office for their vending machine refunds, since it's 2:35 on Tuesday afternoon.  They know you're not sick or coaching a game today, so they're wondering where you are."

MR. GYMJOCK:  "Well, they'll just have to wait.  I'm BUSY."

ME: "But, Mr. Gymjock, I don't think it's very fair to post a sign on your office door telling people to come for their refunds at such-and-such time, and then not being there at the appointed time.  Besides, a lot of people have buses to catch, and I'm about to be late for student council.  I can't miss the meeting, because I'm secretary, and everyone's counting on me to be there.  I was just heading there right now, but I thought I should tell you that there are people waiting...and since I've found you now anyway, well, that's great, it means I can get my refund after all, since it is, after all, between 2:35 and 2:45 on Tuesday afternoon, which is the scheduled vending machine refund time."

MR GYMJOCK:  "Well, then, you'll have to make a choice, do you want your money, or do you want to go to student council?  And, the other students will have to choose between getting THEIR money or catching their buses."

ME:  "No, Mr. Gymjock, that's not going to fly, because if you'd lived up to your commitment, nobody would have to choose.  Everyone could have their refunds, the others could catch their buses, and I could go to student council."


Other variations on this "you have a choice" theme included the elementary-school principal, who told me I had a "choice" between continuing to be bullied by a certain horrible little boy in my class (let's call him Thugrat), or "ignoring it," "trying to be compassionate/be his friend," or switching schools.  Umm, since when was it okay to tell a nine-year-old girl who's getting her face pounded into snow banks and chain link fences, and having her gloves thrown on the road in the middle of winter every day on the walk home from school, that it's up to HER to fix it?  Apparently, the idea of punishing Thugrat was unsavoury to Principal, because he "had a tough home life."  Yeah, he wasn't being given the attention or discipline he needed and deserved, so he felt he had to resort to hitting girls.  So, if the SCHOOL tried to give Thugrat some of that attention and discipline, well, that just couldn't happen.   ::)

My roommate situation was the same way--I did nothing wrong, the other girls effectively bullied me out.  The Rez Gods told me that I had a choice between staying or taking a chance and moving (although I had them check out the new apartment, and talk to the girls, i.e. my current roommates), first, and now everything's fine, but I had to pack up and move EVERYTHING, get to know a new set of roommates, buy new bedding, since my new room had a double bed instead of a single, and, well, after the way the old roommates treated me, I spent several days just crying to myself at random times, because I didn't understand how I could have brought on that kind of treatment.

But, anyway, I digress......and, like MerryRaven said, I have a choice, right?  Well......right now, I'm choosing to be at least reasonably content with the way things are......yes, it's freezing out, yes, Tanya and I are fighting, and no, the Rez Gods STILL haven't turned their minds to fixing our broken fridge shelves, but hey......whatever, I had a good rehearsal with my accompanist today, I got a lot of important things done, and I'm going to a play tonight.  Tomorrow, I'm going to work out, practice, do some painting, and *hopefully* do a bit more thesis research, and Sunday night, the R.A.'s are putting on an ice cream sundae social type event, and then I'm watching Desperate Housewives with Lorna....oh, and I live in Canada instead of war-torn Beirut, I can walk to class without fearing for my life, I have enough money so I can have food, clothes, and a roof over my head (although it's still not much), I'm literate, and I'm about to finish a music degree, which was my choice to get, which a lot of people don't get to choose for themselves.  So, from that point of view, yeah, I'm luckier than about 99% of the people in the world.....but still, I just wanted to speak some words of caution against indiscriminate use of the phrase "you have a choice," because it's not always true, and when it's not true, it can sound dismissive and callous.
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2007, 08:10:20 PM »
I said at the outset that things do happen that we cannot control and our only option is to handle it the best we can.  Afterall people didn't choose Katrina and it didn't look like a lot of people had many options.  Disasters don't count.

Nor does this apply to children under 18.  They cannot choose the situations they are put in.

Adults mostly do have choices.  You can choose how you handle a situation or if you handle it at all. 

And some times no choices seem good at the time.  Also accepting your situation is a choice.

No.  I did not choose to have a chronic illness, two elderly parents with serious medical issues.  I have to accept my situation and that of my parents and cope as best I can. 

I did not choose the time my DH quit his job and we had to pull up stakes within a month when my DD's were 2 and 5 and only had enough money for 2 months in the bank and then I was terribly injured in an accident to the point I was unable to care for the kids.  My DH got a job and my girls and I had to go live with my parents an hour and a half away for a year and a half. 

I did choose my house payments and credit card bills, so I really did choose to buy that Clinique I didn't really need. 

And I did choose my job.  Which I love but like all jobs have terrible days, an occasional lunatic boss, and at times co-workers with arrested emotional development.
And yes like everybody else I moan and complain about how hard work was when I have a glass of wine (or whine) on Friday night.

That is not the same as a friend of mine who says her boyfriend is cheating on her again and when I say well maybe you ought break up with him. 

But he is so good to her and she loves him.  She just wants to get him to quit cheating on her.  Well talk to him and tell him how much that hurts you. 

Well she can't because then he will get mad at her and they have plans to go to this concert and then she won't get to go. 

So you are staying with a cheating boyfriend because you want to go to a concert with him?  Well, yes because she actually paid for the tickets and if he gets mad he will go with someone else.....

and on and on.  This is a women in her 40's by the way.  Tell me she isn't choosing this problem. 




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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2007, 03:56:23 AM »
1. Life is never going to be 'fair' whatever that means.
 
2. Ignoring a problem or not dealing with it is a choice. 

3. You can change your situation or you can accept it.  And acceptance is a valid choice.

4. You can not change other people, you can only change how you decide to react or not react to them or whether you will interact with them or not. 

5. Don't be surprised when predictable people act in predictable ways.

6. People can only take advantage of you if you let them

7. "No", "No Thank you", or "I don't think so" are good phrases to learn and remember when others want to impose.
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« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2007, 04:04:00 AM »
1. Life is never going to be 'fair' whatever that means.
  

MerryRaven, i know it's not how you meant it, but that makes me think of the movie Labyrinth and David Bowie saying It's not fair is it? Hmmmm. I wonder what your basis for comparison is.
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Re: You have a choice
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2007, 08:47:13 AM »
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Good point, Blue (by the way, I don't know how you feel about people telling you they're sorry that you're so sick, so I'm not going to say it, I'm just going to send you some healing vibes)

Thanks Freakyfemme! I don't mind the sympathy, although I was trying not to get into a "poor me" kind of post. I think any whining on this particular thread would get my buns toasted in the fires of Ehell pretty quickly. ;D

And BTW, speaking of choices, I had Thugrat's brother, Weasel, in my class one year. What a fun time that was! I chose to ignore him (I didn't see him outside of school, just during classes), which annoyed him horribly. He chose to escalate his efforts, to the point that he annoyed every one else in the class as well. They "persuaded" him to shut up. After that he stuck to hissing at me when he passed me in the halls.

And of course, the teachers chose to ignore everything.  ::)
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