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Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« on: December 13, 2007, 12:18:07 PM »
Last Christmas DH and I went to a party that was billed as a "Dirty Santa" party. We, and most of the other guests, brought an inexpensive - but nice - gift. Not a gag gift. Others brought gag gifts. No one knew, since the gifts were wrapped, but as soon as the first gift (a nice one) was opened, the bringers of gag gifts cried "Hey! This is supposed to be a gag gift! It's a Dirty Santa exchange!"

Now, I always thought a Dirty Santa was when you bring a nice gift, and then you go through the game of taking someone else's gift. And a White Elephant was when you brought a gag gift. Obviously a lot of other guests thought the same thing. Who is right? Is it a regional difference?

(It ended up being a lot of fun anyway, even with the mixture of nice gifts and gag gifts.)
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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2007, 12:20:38 PM »
I always thought of them as the same thing.  That some gifts were gag gifts and some were nice, but all are inexpensive.  Then the "exchanging" and "stealing" happens and you get what you get.  If they are all gag gifts, then there will be no fighting for the nice ones...

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2007, 12:22:04 PM »
In the White Elephant parties I have been to, there is no stealing of gifts. Just opening the bad ones.
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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2007, 12:23:43 PM »
Oh, the ones I've been to are all the same...some are called Dirty Santa and some are called White Elephant.  I suppose I'll go google this now...

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 12:24:58 PM »
I consider WE to be gag gifts and Dirty Santa to be real gifts, though I personally HATE the whole stealing/swapping thing. I don't like spending my Christmas getting excited about a gift I really like and then having it stolen and I end up with cheap coffee (I don't drink coffee and my boyfriend only drinks the exotic stuff).

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2007, 12:25:48 PM »
I've always understood them to be the same as well. Some people I know don't do the stealing bit for White Elephant, but many do. I think it might be regional.

When my friends and I do White Elephant, we encourage either gag or nice cheap gifts. It's all good as no one comes with the expectation of receiving a gift as much as having some fun.

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2007, 12:34:33 PM »
I've only seen "dirty santa" or "white elephant" type exchanges at parties.  They're used as an icebreaker.

The gifts aren't important - it's about the interaction.

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2007, 12:37:27 PM »
I too always thought that they were synonymous.  Although, when I do hear "White Elephant", I don't necessarily think of doing it where someone can steal your gift.  I think of White Elephant as just a straight exchange.  I think that these things need to be clarified as to what kinds of gifts are expected.

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2007, 12:39:57 PM »
I think whatever the semantics are, that it really needs to be made clear before the gift giving begins.

I know I went to a party like that at work a few years back.  I don't remember what I brought, but it was something that was a decent fairly inexpensive gift for either a male or female.  We were doing the gift grab where you picked numbers and then selected a gift when your number came up, you could either steal a gift, or take one from the gift table.  It's a lot of fun, good natured and people enjoy it.

I took a gift off the table, opened it, and it was a pair of fake groucho marx glasses that also had little windshield wipers on them.  That was it, I was out. The guy that brought the glasses thought it was a hoot (a few months later this guy ended up being my boss).  He kept saying to other people, "well you know me, you know how crazy I am"  That was all well an good, but while everyone else was still enjoying the activities, I was done.  No one was going to steal this joke of a gift from me.  The gift I brought went around three times before it stayed with one person, but I was effectively shut out from the rest of the festivities.  I was pretty pissed off.

A few years before that I had the same thing happen in a gift exchange with a dance club I belonged to, one woman brought a boob mug and I ended up with it.  It was shaped like a woman's boob, you poured the liquid in the top, put the lid on and then drank out of the end of the boob.  It was a great gag gift, it was also the only gag gift.  I really wasn't thrilled with that one either.

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2007, 01:14:34 PM »
So, is there such a thing as a Dirty White Elephant or a Dirty Santa Riding a White Elephant exchange?

We're not doing our White Elephant as planned this year because too many people would be out of town and there just wouldn't be enough of us to make it fun.  But, at the last minute five of the people will be here...but we decided not to do it anyway since I was tired of calling people and talking about it. 
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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2007, 01:43:13 PM »
I've found it helps to have a theme.  We've done wine, novelty socks (hate that one) and ornaments.  My fave is the ornaments.  I've got a nice collection just from that annual exchange.

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2007, 02:17:59 PM »
I think whatever the semantics are, that it really needs to be made clear before the gift giving begins.

I totally agree. That's why the gag gift people were upset - they felt bad about providing unsuitable gifts. Ironically, one of the gag gifts turned out to be coveted by a couple of people, so it was a lot of fun.

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I took a gift off the table, opened it, and it was a pair of fake groucho marx glasses that also had little windshield wipers on them.  That was it, I was out. The guy that brought the glasses thought it was a hoot (a few months later this guy ended up being my boss).  He kept saying to other people, "well you know me, you know how crazy I am"  

If he kept saying it, I bet he was embarassed. Rightfully so.
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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2007, 03:21:33 PM »
Huh...I never heard these games called Dirty Santa until the other night, when Padma said it on the Top Chef Holiday Special (what? I'm a slave to Top Chef  :)).

I attend an annual Christmas party that has a Dirty Santa-style ornament exchange. I have mixed feelings about it. Most people have a sporting attitude, and nobody really worries too much about the cost of the ornaments, as that's often difficult to determine, anyway. We generally have a good time. I've brought home some plug-ugly ornaments, but showing my DH is half the fun.

But there's always Somebody Who Takes It Too Seriously. Somebody who gets peevish when her ornament is taken, even though it's part of the game. And smacking her would not exactly reflect the Christmas Spirit, would it?

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Re: Dirty Santa vs White Elephant
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2007, 03:28:57 PM »
I consider WE to be gag gifts and Dirty Santa to be real gifts, though I personally HATE the whole stealing/swapping thing. I don't like spending my Christmas getting excited about a gift I really like and then having it stolen and I end up with cheap coffee (I don't drink coffee and my boyfriend only drinks the exotic stuff).

Same here. Dirty Santa and WE are not the same in my neck of the woods, and I don't find Dirty Santa all that fun.