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You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« on: February 01, 2007, 06:26:37 PM »
My coworker, "Sally", with whom I share an office, officially crossed the line from annoying/rude today.

Some background:

Sally has been working for this company for 19.5 years. I was hired 18 months ago as the position was too large for just one person - she was falling more and more behind, despite putting in a ton of overtime. Anyway, my hiring was the solution. Our positions overlap about 80-90% and we have a few separate responsibilities as well. The part that overlaps is editing and formatting scientific reports as we work at a contract laboratory.

Sally is a person who is difficult to get along with. She is volatile and moody and apparently always has been. That means that every morning I have no idea whether or not I'm going to be confronted with mean Sally or nice Sally, although she was 'nice' for about the first six months I worked here until her true colors started to show.

Today was the worst of all, though.

I got in around 8:30 and a few minutes later 'Becky' (from quality assurance) stopped by to clarify some emails regarding a report I have been working on for some time. The final bit of analysis was just completed and Becky wanted to make sure I knew where to find the information to put it in the report. I mentioned that I would be working on the report for the rest of the morning and that maybe we could even send it to the client today or Friday.

Well, something I said just set Sally off. She lit into me with a lecture the likes of which I have not seen since I was about five and shoved a crayon into the phone jack (and maybe not even then; my parents weren't really the lecturing sort).

Basically, she ripped me a new one because I hadn't photocopied 4 boxes of files yet. These files do have to be sent to the client (we retain copies), but it is not urgent and I don't really like copying so I've been putting it off OR being interrupted from it with greater priorities. Also, there are still a few files missing that are being collected by other people (not me). But of course all of this flew out of my head as I sat there, absolutely dumbfounded... and getting angrier by the minute because a) she has no authority over me and b) I'm not five.

All rational thought flew from my mind, of course, but I was good. I was calm and completely silent (after a few minutes of silently screaming in the bathroom). I actually did go and start to copy the files for a little while because it needs doing and there was nothing urgent on my plate. I did stop after a while - once I could trust myself not to say something catty - and went back to work on the other project. Sally seemed satisfied that I had put in an effort and was very kind and friendly at me the rest of the day. (I say 'at me' because she was met with icy politeness.)

About twenty minutes ago, my manager was finally free from a long day of meetings and I went to her and told her everything. Ooh... was she mad! At Sally! She asked me if I wanted her to speak to Sally to clarify the chain-of-command right away or if we wanted to see if there is a next time. If there IS a next time I am supposed to walk away from Sally while she is still talking to go for clarification as to priorities (and who assigns them) from my manager.

Hopefully there won't be a next time but sadly, I'm sure there will be.

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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 06:31:39 PM »
I think you handled the situation correctly by going to your manager.  I'm glad she took your side!

Hopefully, this won't happen again, but at least you know that your manager will help you out if it does.
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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2007, 06:46:41 PM »
I wish you hadn't gone ahead and copied some of those files.   It validated Sally's (obvious) opinion that she has say-so regarding your work performance.    No wonder she was then nice to you; you did what she told you to do.

If I were you, bright and early tomorrow morning, I'd have a sit-down with Sally.  The outcome of that meeting is to ensure she understands that: a) she is never to speak to you in that tone of voice ever again; and b) you and your boss are the only two people in charge of your workload including how and when it gets completed and that if she has any doubts about that fact, she is invited to visit with your boss who is already well aware of her tirade.   

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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 07:19:07 PM »
I wish you hadn't gone ahead and copied some of those files.   It validated Sally's (obvious) opinion that she has say-so regarding your work performance.    No wonder she was then nice to you; you did what she told you to do.

If I were you, bright and early tomorrow morning, I'd have a sit-down with Sally.  The outcome of that meeting is to ensure she understands that: a) she is never to speak to you in that tone of voice ever again; and b) you and your boss are the only two people in charge of your workload including how and when it gets completed and that if she has any doubts about that fact, she is invited to visit with your boss who is already well aware of her tirade.   

I wish I hadn't gone and copied them as well, actually. However, it did have one benefit - it allowed me to calm down somewhat and review things a little more rationally.

I may say something to Sally myself. I may end up being too much of a chicken, though (I am one of those people who HATES confrontation with a passion). Any tips on a good way to approach this (or mentally prep myself)? While I've stood up for myself when Sally is being generally 'snippy', I haven't done much beyond that, nor have I had to in any other job situation as this is only my second job since graduating university (and I didn't work much during university).

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 07:21:48 PM »
I second every single thing Chocolate said. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 07:46:25 PM »
Any tips on a good way to approach this (or mentally prep myself)?

The main way to prep yourself is to have the ultimate belief in the fact that you did not deserve her tirade and she had no right to speak to you that way.   Also, keep in mind that if you don't say anything, you'll most certainly receive more of the same from her in the future.  You may be on the receiving end of her griping again anyway, but I can almost guarantee you that it will be less intense because you have stood up to her.

As far as how to approach her, you don't have to be angry.  Be cordial and pleasant, but firm.  Make sure that she has 5-10 minutes to talk (turn off the phone ringers or go into an empty conference room if you have one)   Keep a good, strong eye contact with her.   State that you were very bothered by the situation that occurred and you want to make her aware of your thoughts on the matter before more time passes.

Speak slowly.  Take deep breaths.  And, most of all, don't let her take the conversation off track. 

For example, if she says, "But the files needed copying!  You've let them sit there forever!  Do you think they'll get done on their own?"   

You reply, "Nevertheless, it is not your place to tell me how and when to do my work."   

If she says, "And, I've just not been satisfied with how long it's taking you to complete that file you've been working on.  It should have been done last week!"

You reply, "Nevertheless, it is not your place to tell me how and when to do my work."

Repeat as necessary.
 
When you've said your piece, end the conversation so she doesn't have a chance to keep re-hashing it. 

Just say, "This conversation is done.  I hope you'll think over what I've said.  I really want to have a good working relationship with you."

If you find that she absolutely refuses to accept the veracity of what you are saying, you need to state that is appears that it is necessary for the boss to become involved.  Then, go set up the meeting.


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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 09:41:48 PM »
Don't wait for next time. She needs to know that she acted inappropriately. If not, it will be worse next time, and you might not be able to maintain your cool.

"Sally, I'm confused. You seem to think you're my supervisor, and yet my manager clearly told me yesterday that you are not. So I don't understand why you're telling me how and when to do my job. Do we need to set up a meeting with ManagerX to get this worked out?"
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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2007, 01:49:03 PM »
I agree with Chocolate Cake too, except it would behoove you to have your boss there with you as well. That way there can be no question about what is acceptable and what is not. And she will think twice about being nasty to you when your boss is there. I recently dealt with someone in this exact same way. It's the only way they get the message.
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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2007, 01:56:55 PM »
Just wanted to say that while I agree with Chocolate Cake that you shouldn't have made the copies, I also would have done the exact same thing.  It's not fun to have a coworker yelling at you at work, and when it happened to me, I really couldn't think straight - I just remember thinking "I have to get this person off my back."  So, I don't blame you.

Best of luck in talking to Sally, and let us know how it goes.
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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2007, 02:11:30 PM »
I don't think you need to specifically talk to her.  You've already taken the steps to fix the problem (talked to your boss and gotten permission to walk away), YOU know she can't talk to you like that, and you know you can make her not talk to you like that (by leaving).  So what would talking to her solve?  She obviously knows she shouldn't talk like that to you either, and you already know it, and you have nothing to hold over her head that you can't do anyway.  If you try to arrange a "serious" talk about who can boss around who, she has succeeded in making you change your schedule (taking time to talk) because of something she did.

Instead, consider the matter settled, in your own mind.  The next time she tries to order you around, tell her to do it herself, or walk away and go talk to your boss if she throws a tantrum.  And practice saying "Your tempter tantrum is not my problem.  Please leave so I can get back to work."

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2007, 03:29:06 PM »
Don't wait for next time. She needs to know that she acted inappropriately. If not, it will be worse next time, and you might not be able to maintain your cool.

I agree. I would have taken the manager up on her offer to speak to Sally. Things like this need to be nipped in the bud.

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2007, 05:29:24 PM »
I think you have two very important things in your favour.

1) Your boss is on your side.

2) You know that you don't deserve to be treated this way.

I keep thinking of stories in e-hell (and the boards) where people are treated terribly, but at some point they let themselves be treated terribly.

It's easy to be taken advantage of the first time. You are not expecting the other person to be a nut case.

If there is a repeat how about

Sally "You NEED to copy these files!"

You "Thank-you for the reminder. I have the schedule under control" (This acknowledges her professional concern)

Sally "Rant..rant..Files..Rant.. Right now.."

You "I said I had the schedule under control"

Sally "RAAAAAAANT"

You "I'm not changing my plan for the day. If you have additional concerns talk to my boss"

Sally "RAAAAAAAAAANT"

You: get up and walk away (If you can ignore her at the desk, I might suggest that, but if it were me, I could handle 3 sentences in a calm tone before I would need to run away and cower and regroup)

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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2007, 03:22:02 AM »
DeeTee

That is perfect.

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Re: You are not my boss, and I am not a five-year-old!
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2007, 03:40:45 PM »
I wish you hadn't gone ahead and copied some of those files.   It validated Sally's (obvious) opinion that she has say-so regarding your work performance.    No wonder she was then nice to you; you did what she told you to do.

If I were you, bright and early tomorrow morning, I'd have a sit-down with Sally.  The outcome of that meeting is to ensure she understands that: a) she is never to speak to you in that tone of voice ever again; and b) you and your boss are the only two people in charge of your workload including how and when it gets completed and that if she has any doubts about that fact, she is invited to visit with your boss who is already well aware of her tirade.   

I'd skip talking about b) since you already know what you'll do if she goes on her power trip again. However, I'd calmly tell her that if she ever raised her voice to me again, I'll let all air out of her tires. ;)

Well, not really, but you should def mention that the tone of voice she took with you is unacceptable.