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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2007, 01:35:30 PM »
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On the other hand, when some smart-aleck tried to re-shelve a book (even though we had lots of carts and empty shelves labeled "RETURN USED BOOKS HERE"), and put it in the wrong place, and a patron came up in a panic and said they couldn't find the book, and got mad at us that it was misplaced even though it wasn't our fault, and it took us forever to track the book down...GRRRRRRRRRR >:(

I worked in my school library in college as a Shelver part of our job was to spend at least a half hour of each shift or any addtional time when our other work was complete, shelf reading - (that is taking a section of books and reading the dewey numbers to make sure things weren't misshelved) what a horrible job that was!  The section on automotive manuals (we were a technical college) was awful books shoved back in random order all over the place.  I could never figure out why people would go to the trouble to reshelve their own books if they didn't know how it was done.  How hard was it to just leave it on the table?

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2007, 02:15:34 PM »
Lily,
Blood would flow in the streets if I came to your library. All those little zitbrain kids? Eliminated. Period. I'd clean the joint out with a bat.
As far as leaving your stuff for a minute, this is a prime example of a system that's been abused. Freaky, of course you'd come back quickly after your things, and you'd leave them somewhere they'd be out of the way. But not everyone does. Unfortunately the bad apples spoiled the bunch.
The Library of Congress system is hard, but it's even harder if you don't try!! And our database computers are awesome, they are idiot proof (I know because I can use them!) but again, you have to try.
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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2007, 02:28:34 PM »
Lily,
Blood would flow in the streets if I came to your library. All those little zitbrain kids? Eliminated. Period. I'd clean the joint out with a bat.

Heavens bless the librarians...

heh heh ... feeling like a road trip? i'll join you. We can go all Boondock Saints on those kids. It'll be a blast.

At the tender age of 33 i am still considering a career in Library Science. The stories on here are just apalling. I had a nice romantic idea of being able to hang out amongst books all day & actually get to help people ... i've always thought libraries are sacred places. It makes me so sad hearing how some people treat them.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2007, 02:42:23 PM »
I worked in my school library in college as a Shelver part of our job was to spend at least a half hour of each shift or any addtional time when our other work was complete, shelf reading - (that is taking a section of books and reading the dewey numbers to make sure things weren't misshelved) what a horrible job that was!  The section on automotive manuals (we were a technical college) was awful books shoved back in random order all over the place.  I could never figure out why people would go to the trouble to reshelve their own books if they didn't know how it was done.  How hard was it to just leave it on the table?

During high school I was a library page (shelved books, shelf read, misc tasks) and shelf reading was my favorite part of  the job. Putting all the books back in their proper order. I felt very accomplished when I would get an entire genre shelf read on a Saturday morning (I worked 4 hours each saturday). Now most of the patrons were little old ladies, and a few preschoolers so our shelved didnt really get that bad. The young adult non-fiction usually got hit pretty hard when there was a research paper happening but the teachers always came in and warned us to set aside those books for inlibrary use.

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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2007, 03:33:09 PM »
I worked in my school library in college as a Shelver part of our job was to spend at least a half hour of each shift or any addtional time when our other work was complete, shelf reading - (that is taking a section of books and reading the dewey numbers to make sure things weren't misshelved) what a horrible job that was!  The section on automotive manuals (we were a technical college) was awful books shoved back in random order all over the place.  I could never figure out why people would go to the trouble to reshelve their own books if they didn't know how it was done.  How hard was it to just leave it on the table?

During high school I was a library page (shelved books, shelf read, misc tasks) and shelf reading was my favorite part of  the job. Putting all the books back in their proper order. I felt very accomplished when I would get an entire genre shelf read on a Saturday morning (I worked 4 hours each saturday). Now most of the patrons were little old ladies, and a few preschoolers so our shelved didnt really get that bad. The young adult non-fiction usually got hit pretty hard when there was a research paper happening but the teachers always came in and warned us to set aside those books for inlibrary use.

I helped out in the high school library when I was in high school (you could get half-credit for helping out in a free period).  One of the things I had to do was move books, as they were rearranging the library at the time.  I found all sorts of old, moldy food behind the books!  I was HORRIFIED.  I also had to shelf read, which was a pain, as well as pulling books for classes, and then returning them.  I remember one class which came into the library and a few students made an ABSOLUTE mess by pulling random books off the shelves and leaving them on top of the lower shelving units.  The librarian got the kids back there, and I supervised them attempting to put the books away.  I then shelfread the entire section, fixing it.

I had forgotten about that until this thread reminded me...



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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2007, 03:35:20 PM »
At the tender age of 33 i am still considering a career in Library Science. The stories on here are just apalling. I had a nice romantic idea of being able to hang out amongst books all day & actually get to help people ... i've always thought libraries are sacred places. It makes me so sad hearing how some people treat them.
I wouldn't let the stories here completely turn you off to library science. Every job has its downsides, and to tell you the truth, working at a library while in college was probably one of the better part-time jobs I could have had, as opposed to retail or food service or whatnot. Sure it was exasperating at times, but overall it was a good experience. My senior year, I was given some tasks away from the circulation desk, processing reserve books and training new students, so I had to encounter the bad apples even less. I know of other libraries on campus who had major preservation divisions, and that's where many of the employees with Lib. Sci. degrees wound up, I think - in positions where they could actually care for books and help keep them around for future generations to enjoy. Now THAT sounds like a very cool job for a book-lover to have.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2007, 03:43:44 PM »
At the tender age of 33 i am still considering a career in Library Science. The stories on here are just apalling. I had a nice romantic idea of being able to hang out amongst books all day & actually get to help people ... i've always thought libraries are sacred places. It makes me so sad hearing how some people treat them.
I wouldn't let the stories here completely turn you off to library science. Every job has its downsides, and to tell you the truth, working at a library while in college was probably one of the better part-time jobs I could have had, as opposed to retail or food service or whatnot. Sure it was exasperating at times, but overall it was a good experience. My senior year, I was given some tasks away from the circulation desk, processing reserve books and training new students, so I had to encounter the bad apples even less. I know of other libraries on campus who had major preservation divisions, and that's where many of the employees with Lib. Sci. degrees wound up, I think - in positions where they could actually care for books and help keep them around for future generations to enjoy. Now THAT sounds like a very cool job for a book-lover to have.

Thanks Calabash. I'm not letting the stories discourage me. Besides, i love school. Even if i never put it to use it seems like it would be a great education if i can afford it & actually am able to apply myself.
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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2007, 04:28:56 PM »
I also had to shelf read working in the library.  It was my favorite part, so naturally it was the job I was least likely to get (we were usually backed up in books needing to go out.)  What got me was, every now and again there would be this book that for one reason or another, was marked by the first letters of it's title rather than the author's last name.  Never figured out why, and I can't remember which ones they were to ask anyone... but they were tricky little buggers.  They'd either be in the wrong place, masquerading as the right place, or in the right place and you were looking in the wrong place.  Fun for the whole family!

Luckily people were very patient when books went into hiding like that.  I actually have very few ehell submission from my days at the liberry.
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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2007, 04:37:31 PM »
For all I complain, I do get to read (books and eHell) every day at work, I get to decide which books to order, I get to "see the light bulb come on" while explaining how adding fractions or using the encyclopedia works, and I get to run storytimes whenever I feel like it :-)  I don't think I'd like my job anywhere near as much if I weren't the only one here - I have about 4 hours of quiet and 2 1/2 hours of zoo everyday (after the kids get home from school).  It's a nice balance.

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2007, 08:36:47 PM »
I love being a librarian.  Sure, sometimes I feel more like a social worker, teacher, security guard, computer monitor, copy repair person, or janitor than a librarian, but that's part of what makes this job so great. 
I love going to work everyday and can't imagine anything that would make me happier.  If I won the lottery, I would still go to work everyday. 

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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2007, 05:01:44 AM »
I loved the "ask the librarians to watch their stuff" line

We watched a student's kitten once. He sat n his carryingbox while she sent ot a lecture. He was very small, and had been abandoned, and her flat was being redecorated, so she couldn't leave him on his own.

She has brought him back, on a lead, a couple of times since then.

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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2007, 02:44:41 PM »
I agree with most of your post, except the part about asking the librarians to hold onto personal possessions.  Really, HOW much trouble would it be for the reference desk people to put my backpack or my clarinet behind the desk while I go upstairs/to the other room to get some books that I've already looked up on the computer system?  They wouldn't even have to actually *do* anything, I'd have peace of mind about my things not being stolen, and I wouldn't have to drag them with me.  Besides, I think I'd be able to recognize my own clarinet case, considering the fact that nobody else at my school has one like mine.
Freaky,
I don't know if anyone has responded yet, but I suspect they don't want to be held responsible if your items "walk" off while your gone.  Really, I can't say I blame them.

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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2007, 07:20:33 PM »
Dear Auntie Venom,

I feel your pain.  My Library is not a public one but the requests we get makes my head spin.

There was the guy who E-mailed us with the request to, 'Photocopy everything you've got on (fill in the blank) and send it to me.  I'll pay you a dime a copy for whatever I can use'.

 :-X ??? :o

For the record, what he wanted, in a language he could read, would have been at least 1000 pages.  I think we're not going to do that on spec.

There was the Dad who called us on a Friday afternoon.  His  12 year-old daughter needed a paper on mummies and nothing whatsoever could be found in the public libraries where they lived.   Of course we'd write it for her free of charge, add interesting illustrations and fax it to him within the hour.  The paper, after all, was due on Monday morning.

The man told me he lived in a particular city that I knew had a wonderful public library system.  Any branch library there would have the information needed for a 12 year-old's paper.  However, he felt that only a paper written in the most comprehensive Egyptological library in the Western Hemisphere was good enough for his kid.  It didn't seem to matter that the child would learn nothing.  It also didn't seem to matter that     Need I say that, despite the pleadings, "Aw c'mon Lady!  She's a litle girl"  :'( did not soften our steely hearts. 

Then there was a teacher in a weekend school associated with a local house of worship.  S/he ordered up a slide show on 'Animals in the Bible' in exactly the same way most of us would order up a tuna salad on rye from a local sandwich shop (hold the cheese).  We were to put together a nice slide show of animal- themed objects in the museum's collection with a script relating each creature to specific mentions in the Bible.  The slides and the commentary would become the property of the teacher.  Need I say we were expected to do this at no cost to the teacher or the house of worship.  We'd also have it available for pick-up within a week's time.  Need I also say that what the Librarian who was ordered to do this had to say to the teacher would not be suitable for a family-friendly board such as this one.

Finally, there was the Mom who decided that our Library would be the perfect place for her little Buford to spend his after-school hours.  His school was within easy walking distance of the Museum and he loved the subject so.  In her mind it was an easy thing.  Every afternoon, young Buford would have a place at our Library.  He'd come here after school to do his homework and study.  Mom would pick him up as soon after we closed as she could. 

Without regrets, we had to turn down Mom's great idea.  We weren't child-sitters, we had limited seating space and a standing appointment for a 10 year old would mean that more mature scholars would be denied a place.  Buford was a nice kid but we weren't going to be responsible for him until Mom saw fit to pick him up. 

It's sad because the children of these pushy, entitled parents or teachers are usually the kind of children we like to see.  The kids are polite, intelligent and eager to learn.  It's a crying shame that their parents won't let them learn at their own pace.   
             


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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2007, 09:06:49 PM »
Auntie,

If you come to my library, I already have the baseball bat for you...or, if you prefer, we keep a nine iron under the front desk.  We haven't actually used them yet, but they make nice conversation pieces.  (We could probably use them to play a modified form of field hockey using the neon orange ball someone left here seven years ago and never picked up.  :)

Thipu,

I LOVED your stories.  Especially the teacher and the slide show.  We have a woman who regularly comes in and introduces herself (as if we would forget someone like her) as Reverend Entitled, Eldress of the Church of the Holy Gimme Gimmee.  (Okay, so that's not really her name....)  Her last head to head with my boss had to do with movie equipment. 

She wanted to borrow our movie projector.  The movie projector I use almost every single day for my story hour kids.  The heavy, almost immoveable movie projector.  And what was she going to do with it? 
Why, she wanted the kids at her church to experience the joys of drive in theaters.  So she was going to rent a bus, drive it around until (she really hadn't thought this through at all)  she found a building with a white exterior and use the movie projector to show a movie on the side of the building.

We asked her what she would do for a power source.  Oh...she hadn't thought of that.  We asked her how the kids would view the movie.  Why from inside the bus, of course.  And how long was she going to want this movie projector.  Well, there were several groups, so she'd want to keep it for several weeks...

We suggested she look around for a real drive in theater.  There are two or three left in the state....

Can people REALLY be this dumb?


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Re: Abuse Your Local Librarian
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2007, 11:42:24 PM »
Apparently they can be, since you keep running into them.

And here I was thinking that a librarian might be such a nice career path... (One of the school librarians suggested it.)