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Re: A bit peeved on behalf of fan fic writers everywhere
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2008, 08:03:40 PM »
I spent a week just on that particular scene. So anybody who says fanfiction isn't "creative writing" is a moron who needs a clue by four mailed to their rectum.


The letter said that they are supporting "more" creative writing.  Not that fanfic isn't creative at all.

And I believe that full-blown, non-fanfic writing requires more creativity for all the reasons already named out in this post.  Creation of characters and worlds isn't just taking up space.  It's half the story, in fact, if not more; oftentimes it's much more important than plot. 

I respect fanfic and understand that it requires a knowledge of the background of the stories as well as a great amount of creativity to write.  But I think regular fiction takes more effort, and I don't consider myself a moron.

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Re: A bit peeved on behalf of fan fic writers everywhere
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2008, 08:59:09 PM »

I regard fanfic as a niche form of writing - more of a shared hobby than a fiction genre.  In some cases the writing is quite good, in most cases it's fairly mediocre, and in many cases it's truly terrible. It *may* lead to more original writing, but most people who write fanfic stay in that mode.

It's not that it is not a creative endeavour, it's that the creativity required is more limited than that required by original fiction. The author has to write the plot and descriptions, and has the wording to worry about, but they don't need to develop character and their interactions, and back story, do world building and all of those things. It's even more pronounced in genres like science fiction and fantasy where world building is a major part of the writing.

In some ways it's like the difference between doing a cover of a song, and writing your own. Interpreting and playing someone else's music takes hard work, creativity and skill, but no-one is going to claim that it's the same creative process as writing original music.

Accessibility is a point as well. In general, fan fiction is only accessible (or of interest) to people who are familiar with the work being used, and is only read by other fans of the series. Crossovers are even worse, as you have to be familiar with two separate works of fiction. In most cases, they *can't* be successfully read independently, which ties into the more limited type of creativity part.  Fan fic also cannot, in general, be published.


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Re: A bit peeved on behalf of fan fic writers everywhere
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2008, 09:06:54 PM »
As someone who writes and reads fanfic I have to honestly admit that most fanfic is... vile. Barely coherent, riddled with grammar and spelling errors, incompetently thought out and plainly painful to read.

What's worse is that fic like that consistently gets reviews "ohmygodz this is so grate!!!! pleaz rite more!"
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Re: A bit peeved on behalf of fan fic writers everywhere
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2008, 09:14:31 PM »
As someone who writes and reads fanfic I have to honestly admit that most fanfic is... vile. Barely coherent, riddled with grammar and spelling errors, incompetently thought out and plainly painful to read.

What's worse is that fic like that consistently gets reviews "ohmygodz this is so grate!!!! pleaz rite more!"

My (admittedly limited) experience with fanfic and its musical cousin filk has been like this.  85% utter garbage and lots of people being "supportive," just as you've said.   And woe-betide the poor fool who says "wait, a minute, this stinks."  Then it's time to circle the wagons.

What's a bit sad is that it could be a very good stepping stone to learning the craft of writing.  In painting, you learn to copy the masters and then work on developing your own style.  In music, I memorized many famous jazz improvisations while learning to do it myself.  Being able to focus on plot, exposition and dialog is a great opportunity, but many fanfic writers never get past that.  This is especially true in sci-fi and fantasy, where building a believable universe is much harder than it seems.
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