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Middle school tour group from heck
« on: February 18, 2008, 07:20:38 PM »
DH and I have just come home from a long weekend in and around Charlottesville, VA where our plans were to visit the homes of three presidents -- Jefferson, Monroe, and Madison.  Our planned itinerary for Saturday was to visit Monticello (Jefferson's home) in the morning, have lunch at an historic inn called the Michie Tavern, and then visit Ash Lawn (Monroe's home) in the afternoon.  All three sites are located close to each other, and you can buy something called the Presidents Pass that provides discounted admission to all three on one ticket.

We were sitting on a bench at Monticello, waiting for our timed tour of the home, when THEY arrived.  Four busloads of middle schoolers from Lansing, MI.  I have never seen a more poorly behaved group of students, and I live in the Washington, DC area, which is invaded every spring by hordes of school tour groups.  They were loud, obnoxious, rude, disruptive.... 

Since they had a wait for the timed tour (they were going to have to go through in shifts because of the size of their group), they went in the gift shop where a bunch of boys bought big bottles of sparkling cider.  The boys then proceeded to shake up the bottles of cider and spray each other with the cider.  When they got tired of spraying each other, they went after the girls.  Their chaperones stood by helplessly and didn't do a thing as people scattered to get out of the way.  Then, a bunch of the boys bought harmonicas at the gift shop and tried to play them.  Cue six harmonicas playing tunelessly for what seemed like forever.   People approached the hapless chaperones to see if they could get the kids to calm down and the chaperones explained that the kids had been cooped up on the bus all the way from Lansing (they'd driven all night) and there was nothing they could do. 

About 15 people who were waiting for tours and were not part of the onslaught approached the woman who was managing the line and asked if we all could please be put into one group to go through the house instead of mixed in with the middle schoolers.  She agreed, and we all went up to the house for the tour.  Our guide was excellent, and we enjoyed the tour.  As we were leaving, we passed by the front of the house and heard the guide explaining about the no-gum-in-the-house rule and saying over and over, "Please put your gum in the appropriate receptacles... no, don't just spit it out on the ground.... now pick that up and put it the trash"  The walkway up to the house was  speckled with chewing gum.

DH and I decided to walk back to the parking lot, instead of taking the shuttle bus, in order to see the Jefferson family graveyard.  We were enjoying a nice stroll when we heard the blasted harmonica players again, and nearly got trampled when the group decided to run down the narrow, hilly path instead of walking.   The chaperones shrugged again when I pointed out that it wasn't good trail manners to run like that.  When we got to the parking lot, we saw all four of their tour buses idling in the parking lot, in spite of a sign saying "No bus idling except in extreme weather."  It was in the sixties and sunny on Saturday.

We got in our car and headed to the Michie Tavern for lunch.  So did they.  Fortunately, the Michie Tavern has a separate dining room with its own entrance for large tour groups, so we had a nice lunch in relative peace and quiet.  Until DH had to go to the restroom, that is.  He found a group of the boys spraying each other with water in the men's room.  He had to inform a manager because the floor was getting so wet and slick.  At that point, we heard one of the chaperone's starting to herd the kids back on the bus because "we still need to see Ash Lawn before we head to Washington."  At that point, we verified that we could complete our Presidents Pass on another day and headed back to our motel to enjoy the indoor pool.

The next morning, we were at Ash Lawn right at 11:00 when it opened and found the ladies in the gift shop still recovering from the tour group the day before.   Only a small number of people can tour the house at any given time, so those who were waiting to go in had hung out in the gift shop, playing harmonicas, for a couple of hours till all four busloads had finally had a chance to see the house. 

Do they even give students instructions on how to behave on a school field trip anymore? 

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 07:24:25 PM »
This is too good to limit to e-hell. It deserves editorial space in the Lansing newspaper. I'm sure the gift shop ladies will be happy to tell you the name of the school if you didn't catch it.
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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 07:26:22 PM »
I agree with KewpieDoll. If you remember the name of the school that sent these lovely specimens on the field trip, contact the school and let them know how well their students and chaperones represented them.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 07:30:45 PM »
Trust me, I'm working on a letter to the school district. 

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 07:57:20 PM »
Please update if you get a reply, if you don't mind.

That is why I chose Elementary Education.  Not that I'm trying to say the teachers aren't at fault, since they should've been on top of things and in control.  I mean that I will probably never have a field trip out of state.  If I did, I will probably have to have something like 1 grown-up for every 2 or 3 kids.  And students, typically, still are teacher-pleasers when they're younger and like to be helpers.

I'm so glad you're writing the school district.

I hear stories like this and it feel *this small* (ok, imagine me doing the motions for a moment) since I couldn't get a teaching job, but people like this can.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 07:58:54 PM »
If that were me and my vacation being ruined, I think a few of the parents back in Lansing would be planning funerals right now.

Yes, I kid... but seriously, what the heck?  When I was a kid on an overnight away from home field trip, it was like a regimented system.  Anybody who acted up would be separated from the group and not allowed to participate.  Like have to sit on the bus with a book while everyone else was touring the site.  And a BIG BAD letter home to the parents... oh it wasn't pretty.  (I wasn't one of the naughty kids, but I did witness the smack down on some of the unruly brats from class...)

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 08:06:12 PM »
Please update if you get a reply, if you don't mind.

That is why I chose Elementary Education.  Not that I'm trying to say the teachers aren't at fault, since they should've been on top of things and in control.  I mean that I will probably never have a field trip out of state.  If I did, I will probably have to have something like 1 grown-up for every 2 or 3 kids.  And students, typically, still are teacher-pleasers when they're younger and like to be helpers.

I'm so glad you're writing the school district.

I hear stories like this and it feel *this small* (ok, imagine me doing the motions for a moment) since I couldn't get a teaching job, but people like this can.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 08:15:03 PM »
The copy shop I used to work at ran handbooks for a service organization that sent teens on field trips abroad. Parents had to have a credit card number on file; if their kid acted up, they would be charged for the plane tickets back home - 1 for the kid, and a round trip for the chaperone.
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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 08:24:41 PM »
Holy Moly!  What a nightmare!  I'm glad kids here (Australia) wear uniforms, usually with the school name emblazoned on it somewhere, so that it's easy to identify kids from schools that are misbehaving (or being exceptionally good). 

The trip sounds like it was extremely poorly planned if the kids weren't allowed time beforehand to get out and run around somewhere before descending on the poor unsuspecting souls at the sites.  If these places are close enough to each other that they are all on the same discount ticket, then the group should have been split up and sent to different sites at different times so that they weren't acting up in the giftshop/wherever whilst waiting for their turn to visit the houses.  That doesn't excuse the lack of supervision by the chaperones though, or the overall bad manners these kids seemed to have anyway.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 08:29:33 PM »
And whose brilliant idea was to have the kids on buses all night long to do this?  And why were the buses left running?  On behalf of the state of Michigan, I apologize.
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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 08:31:09 PM »
Gee whiz, in Cedar Rapids, a few years ago, a kid got caught smoking on a school trip to Florida or some place far away.

Some genius put an unaccompanied 15 year old boy on a Greyhound bus back to Iowa.

The kid had his wallet stolen and had nothing to eat the entire trip.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 08:43:51 PM »
Trust me, I'm working on a letter to the school district. 

Good for you!

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 08:44:43 PM »
I think the letter is a good idea, however, I feel bad for the students who weren't acting up.  Unfortunately the unruly brats left a bad impression of the whole and town.  When I was in high school, our high school cheer leading team went to Florida and some of them got caught stealing.  I remember thinking that probably several people in Florida have a low opinion of our town and school because of the few thieves that happened to be representing our school.  Whenever we went anywhere from elementary through high school, we were always told that we were representing our town and school and to be on our best behavior.

If the town and school gets enough letters about the poor behavior of many of its students, hopefully it will rethink sending students on a trip like this and/or make rule about conduct with discipline to follow if students are caught breaking the rules.  As a person living in that town, I would be embarrassed and angry that those middle schoolers represented our town so poorly.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 08:48:23 PM »
If this had been four busloads of kids from our school district, there would be four busloads of kids sitting in detention and losing computer privileges for the rest of the year.  I am appalled!  Write to the school board, the superintendent and their principal.  And keep us updated.

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Re: Middle school tour group from heck
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 08:57:11 PM »
I taught middle school for the first 18 years of my career (I now teach ninth grade, which is included in middle school in some school districts).  It's ridiculous of those chaperons to think they can't control middle school age kids because they CAN be controlled.

It sounds like they didn't have near enough chaperons for this size of a group - 20 kids to a chaperon is the formula we always used, and we usually had several parents as well as teachers with our students.  They students also should have been strictly told about acceptable versus unacceptable behavior before they ever boarded the bus to leave for this trip.  Sounds like this trip was poorly planned all around.

Please do update us when you get a reply to that letter.

Edited to add: We NEVER just turned our kiddoes lose on a field trip; they got to see everything there was to see, but they stayed with their teachers.  We kept a roster on us and periodically checked to make sure that all were present, accounted for, and NOT putting our school in a bad light with their behavior.
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