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susanj

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I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« on: February 15, 2007, 02:40:12 AM »
I work at a tiny non-profit in a small remote town. Currently there are only me and the 'boss' in the office. She is the director of this organisation, not because of any particular skills, (in high school she majored in drinking beer in pick-up trucks), but because she was born and raised here and knows everyone and she's very loud and pushy and brash. She often jokes that, "oh they finally gave me what I wanted just to get rid of me". It's not a joke, though, it's true.
She may have a native wit, but she seems to have been raised by wolves.
Example:
She is reading a report and asks me, "Hey, what were the names of the three musketeers?"
I know that the report she's reading, (about marketing), doesn't talk about Dumas' heroes and ask her what she's reading.
She tells me that the report says, "... to convince the client we must make use of ethos, pathos and logos ... "
I tell her that those are not musketeers, they're rhetorical devices.
She replies suspiciously, "You mean like a computer?"
What could I say?
She's only marginally literate, has a flexible concept of honesty and is so uncouth. She talks constantly. I swear she processes everything out loud. I believe that she even talks on the inhale. She shares a great deal of information that I do not want to know. How menopause is progressing for her, the ongoing state of her digestion, her relationships with her family. If she's not talking to me, she's on the phone, talking loudly, repeating the same thing to anyone who will speak to her. She makes decisions by the Family Feud method. She asks for the opinions of everyone and anyone on any topic. I once heard her asking a 20 year old male summer student we had working with us if he had any ideas about dealing with hot flashes. Sometimes, when I'm feeling more than usually crazed, I take turns convincing her of opposing sides of a question. Since she has no concept of logic, it's not that hard. The passion of a person's belief is, to her, proof of its correctness. She's a complete idiot.
Our desks face each other, there are only about 10 feet between them.
She eats at her desk. She's always dieting and has some fabulous ideas about nutrition. It's amazing what you can learn from the tabloid headlines while waiting in line at the grocery store.
She never learned to chew with her mouth closed. Or, for that matter, that one might not want to talk while masticating wolfish bites of food.
One day she was moaning about her computer not working, and asked me what could be the matter, it was 'frozen', she could move the mouse but she couldn't type anything. I plugged in a different keyboard and everything worked again.
It was not working before because MANY OF THE KEYS WERE JAMMED WITH BITS OF FOOD, a sticky, crumby, disgusting mess.
She claims that she 'piles, not files' and that if she put things away she would never find them. Her drifts are threatening to engulf the whole office. This is the woman who spends at least half an hour every day shifting piles and moaning about her lost keys. Every day. Every single bloody day. I finally broke down one day and said, "I find that if I always put my keys in the same place when I come in, it's easier to find them."
She replied, "Well, that's easy for you, you're organized."
As if she was some ethereal being too good for the mundane details of the world.
Aaaarggghhhh.
Tomorrow we are going out of town for a conference. She planned to hire one hotel room, to share. It would be fun, like a pajama party. This is a fifty year old woman. She seemed aggrieved when I told her that I really wanted my own room, that I was willing to go to a cheaper hotel, whatever was necessary. She thinks I'm a misanthropist, but the funny thing is, I'm really fairly social - or at least I was, until I started spending 50 hours a week with this woman.
The job is otherwise good. I'm paid pretty well, and have interesting, varied work to do and an opportunity to shape my own job description and create my own projects. It gives me a good deal of opportunity to make good connections and improve my credentials. And remember it's a small, remote town. Jobs like this are rarer than rare. And I'm obliged to stay in this town for at least two more years. But this woman is making it hell.
I don't guess anyone will have a solution for me, but any suggestions will be very welcome, really - I'm not as Female Dog as I must sound.
Just having a chance to get this off my chest has been great.
Thank you all.

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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 06:27:57 AM »
My only suggestion re the keys is: Put a hook on the wall, and hang the keys there, and if she doesn't put them back, that's her lookout. Either that or one of those key rings that bleeps if you whistle, so you can find lost keys.

 I shouldn't , but loved the comment about the Musketeers!

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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 06:33:28 AM »
I don't guess anyone will have a solution for me, but any suggestions will be very welcome, really - I'm not as Female Dog as I must sound.

There is no solution to a train wreck like this woman. Find another job. If you try to manage the situation you will eventually come to the end of your tether. She is creating a 'normality' in which you already feel uncomfortable and she won't change it.

And yes, I speak from bitter experience.

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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 07:25:49 AM »
I'd be willing to put up with a reasonable amount of annoyance in order to hear occasionally a discussion about the Three Musketeers, Ethos, Pathos and Logos.
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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 09:37:17 AM »
And she can act like this and not get fired?

Suddenly I'm very afraid of the working world...

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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2007, 09:59:25 AM »
Is it the kind of job you could do while plugged into headphones?
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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2007, 10:43:28 AM »



She's not going to change, so you either have to adapt or flee.






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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2007, 11:06:32 AM »
I agree with IndianInlaw (huh, I have been reading that name as Indianlaw this whole time. that's interesting).  Many of the qualities you mentioned, while annoying, really arent anything that you can comment on (unless she asks).  As far as the amount of information she gives you, well, I am sure you can find an appropriate response somewhere on this board! (how about, Co-worker, thanks, but I dont want to know these things.  repeat as necessary). 

If she lies to you - "Co worker, I do not appreciate being misled in that way. Next time, please give me the whole truth."  (substitute 'our customers' as necessary). 

Dont give your opinion on personal things when asked-keep your conversations work related. 

These may be big changes to make all at once, so slowly introduce them.

good luck. 

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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2007, 11:23:24 AM »

What would her reaction be if you actually asked her to chew with her mouth closed? It's a little drastic --  and i am not being sarcastic, confronting the boss with things like that can be downright scary -- but if it is making you crazy enough that every little thing grates your nerves it may be worth a try.

I am also a big fan of headphones. A trick i learned while sitting next to LoudGirl in my office is that after a while you don't even need to have them turned on. Sometimes i can't listen to music and process information; but just having the earbuds in my ears after a week or so stopped her from jabbering in my ear.

Good luck! Let us know if anything helps.
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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2007, 11:28:22 AM »
I really have no advice for you, but I need to let you know how comical I found this exchange-

"She tells me that the report says, "... to convince the client we must make use of ethos, pathos and logos ... "
I tell her that those are not musketeers, they're rhetorical devices.
She replies suspiciously, "You mean like a computer?"

Have you thought about writing comedies in your spare time? She would be a wealth of material!

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Re: I need help dealing with a maddening boss.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2007, 12:17:12 PM »
Thank you all.
It's so wonderful to know that there are common-sensical people in the world after all. Sometimes I lose track of that.

I have instituted many of your suggestions already, I wear earphones and listen to music whenever I'm not on the phone, after the first month or so I stopped helping her look for things. I told her that there's no way I could guess where she dropped anything last, and it was a waste of time for me to try.
I respond to any of her too personal comments with a blank stare. Now she prefaces most of the comments with, "You're probably not interested but ... "
She's the director of the organisation, reports to a board that is not, (obviously),  very involved and has gotten by on the backs of all of us who have worked here because we believe in the organisation and won't compromise our competence.

Again. Thanks so much for your thoughtful responses. I take heart that there are bright people out there iafter all.