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Lady Vavasour

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Bitter butter beans
« on: June 09, 2008, 05:38:34 AM »
I recently bought some lima (butter) beans and cooked them for dinner tonight in the pressure cooker. They came out quite bitter--actually, they are virtually inedible--and I'm not sure why. I actually cooked them yesterday, using the same recipe, and I'm SURE they weren't bitter like this. The only difference between yesterday's recipe and today's is that today I didn't presoak them.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Could presoaking remove bitterness? Are lima beans naturally bitter? Could I have bought bad lima beans? Right now, I'm not too keen to buy lima beans again ...  :(

The recipe included fresh rosemary, garlic and olive oil.

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 07:33:32 AM »
Maybe you'd bought a bit of bitter butter, and need to buy a bit of better butter. Your name isn't Betty Botter, is it?

Seriously, I don't know what happened to the beans, but if the only difference was the presoaking, that's probably it.
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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 10:12:56 AM »
I have no patience for cooking my own butter beans, so I buy them in the jar!

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 02:01:17 PM »
from the same batch, purchased at the same time?

The sugars in fruit & product convert to starches as they age. Maybe you just waited too long. Though I wouldn't have thought that would make them bitter,  just less flavorful.

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 02:16:42 PM »
I have no patience for cooking my own butter beans, so I buy them in the jar!

I buy them canned, then serve them in a hotdish made with consomme, onions, and bacon.  ;D

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 07:06:21 PM »
Lima beans are one of those evil foods that don't darken my doorstep :)

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 07:48:30 PM »
Maybe you'd bought a bit of bitter butter, and need to buy a bit of better butter. Your name isn't Betty Botter, is it?

Seriously, I don't know what happened to the beans, but if the only difference was the presoaking, that's probably it.

I wouldn't normally call them butter beans, but I couldn't resist ...

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 07:52:11 PM »
I usually buy dried beans that have a label on them that says "untreated." These beans didn't have this label, which leads me to wonder if perhaps they were treated with some kind of chemical that presoaking managed to get rid of. They definitely take far longer to cook than untreated kidney beans (apparently they should take about the same time), and I've heard that the treatment used to sterilise imported beans leads to them taking longer to cook.

Or perhaps rosemary gets bitter when cooked for too long in the pressure cooker? I really have no idea.

Lima/butter beans are not naturally bitter, right?

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 08:00:48 PM »

I wouldn't normally call them butter beans, but I couldn't resist ...

Well, there is a difference between the little green lima beans and the big yellow butter beans.

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 08:27:07 PM »

I wouldn't normally call them butter beans, but I couldn't resist ...

Well, there is a difference between the little green lima beans and the big yellow butter beans.

We don't call them butter beans in New Zealand. What I cooked are large lima beans.

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 08:33:55 PM »
Rosemary does indeed get bitter with prolonged high temperatures.

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 09:03:15 PM »
Rosemary does indeed get bitter with prolonged high temperatures.


Ah, thanks for that!

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2008, 01:38:08 PM »
Maybe they were has-beans?

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2008, 09:30:40 PM »
Maybe they were has-beans?

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Re: Bitter butter beans
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2008, 09:32:41 PM »
Did you make lima beans, or butter beans?  Because I don't think they are the same thing.

Butter beans are big, whitish, soft and yummy.  Lima beans are smaller, green, firmer, and yucky.  :)