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Ceallach

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Number of posts and argumentation?
« on: June 19, 2008, 02:48:07 AM »
Hi.  I'm not sure if this is the right place for this or if it has been discussed before,  if not/so then please remove this and I apologize!  Otherwise...

This may sound slightly nuts, but I'm starting to wonder if there should be a limit on how many posts a person can put in one thread.

Often, the quality of posts seems to deteriorate once posters continually repost to clarify what they were saying.  I'm not against clarification per se, but frequently these interactions appear to develop into arguments between two people, with the occasional attempts to pacify from third parties.  Thus, we lose the whole point of the thread, and IMHO (and personal experience) other posters do not feel comfortable posting to address the original question as the thread has turned into an argument between two parties instead.   It's not the the posters are going off-topic, but they're continually re-posting and repeating themselves in an effort to clarify and defend themself against perceived attack. 


For example, current threads sometimes go like this:

OP:   There's an anthill in my yard, is it bad manners to remove it?
P2:    Oh no, I feel for you, what a hard decision. I would remove the anthill
P3:    I also feel for you, I once had an anthill and it happened like this, but the X got it
P4:    Emily Post says this. Miss Manners says that. I would do supercalafrajalistic.
P5:    Ants live in anthills but bulldogs live in doghouses
B:     How can you say bulldogs live in anthills? I'm horrified!
P5:    I actually never said that, re-read my post, it says ants live in anthills, bulldogs live in doghouses
B:     Yes but you're talking about anthills and you're talking about bulldogs, so that implies that cats like candy
P5:   Where did I ever imply that cats like candy?  Ants live in anthills, bulls live in bulldogs, etc.
B:     Re-read my post, I never said you thought cats like candy, anthills, bulldogs, yadeyadeyada.

(meanwhile, other posters cower in fear and avoid posting, not wanting to get involved in the ongoing dispute)


I'm not sure if anybody else here gets what I'm talking about, but I feel this way a lot when I read existing threads, and by the time I read through I reconsider my decision to post in response to the issue at hand, preferring not to get involved in the "situation" that's developed. It seems to kill threads and thus reduce the productivity of discussions.  People get so caught up in attack/defense positions that it's awkward for everybody else, and usually they're just repeating themselves.  How many different things can one poster have to say about the same topic? 


Edited to add:  I realise that if I don't like it then I don't have to participate.  I love Ehell - it's been part of my life for the past six years (before the forum started I believe) and although I haven't always been active, I know I'll always be interested in what's discussed here.  It's nice being part of a productive forum that actually cares about people and the way we treat each other, and helps us gain perspective on our own behaviour.  So this isn't intended as a criticism, it's just something I've observed time and time again, and because I love Ehell I wanted to mention it as a possible area of improvement.   :-)
« Last Edit: June 19, 2008, 03:13:04 AM by Ceallach »
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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 03:03:53 AM »
I don't think limiting someone's posts is going to be at all useful.  There are some hot topics that do spark heated threads, but on the whole, this is a great community of people who show respect to one another.

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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 03:06:59 AM »
I think that this is a great community of people too.  :-)   
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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 09:56:04 AM »
I agree with Alida.  I don't know how often I would frequent the forum if I knew I could only post so much.  We do have moderators who will step in if they feel things are going downhill.  If you feel like something is not being productive, or is realy getting off track, I would report the thread.

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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 10:28:40 AM »
While I agree with what you are seeing (some threads just get ignored by me if the first time I see them they are already over 4 pages long), another factor of the back and forth posting is the joking that goes along.  Especially in the DQ threads, where everyone tries to top the previous person in coming up with absurd situations - and those are fun to read.


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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 11:40:33 AM »
No, I don't believe that people should be limited in how many times they post. Specific problems should be reported and annoying threads should be ignored.
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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 01:51:08 PM »
No, I don't believe that people should be limited in how many times they post. Specific problems should be reported and annoying threads should be ignored.

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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 05:07:09 PM »
I get what you mean, understand it completely.   Your example was perfect to describe the situation.    That doesn't mean that I would agree that there should be limits.  If a thread gets too long, it's easy enough to get past it, I just scroll on by.  Only once in a while do I go back for confirmation of my opinion.  It's my opinion.  Everyone else gets theirs, I get mine.  It's not even important if we all agree.  What's important is the coming together with many opinions of what might be right about big thing and some that are so little it's surprising they provided a 2nd thought.  Not every differing opinion should spark arguing.  Can't it be call discussion?

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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 08:21:15 PM »
I've belonged to this forum for a looong time.  I think it's going on 7 or 8 years.  Quite honestly, what you describe is bang on in how threads can evolve, but limiting the number of posts would not go over well.  I think it would limit the interaction and exchange of thoughts, beliefs and opinions and a few people would most likely leave if their ability to post was reduced. 

Sometimes I spend hours here, sometimes I spend a few minutes, sometimes I miss a few days.  But ehell is THE place that I post regularly and where I have been a member the longest. 

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Re: Number of posts and argumentation?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 01:33:07 PM »
I've belonged to this forum for a looong time.  I think it's going on 7 or 8 years.  Quite honestly, what you describe is bang on in how threads can evolve, but limiting the number of posts would not go over well.  I think it would limit the interaction and exchange of thoughts, beliefs and opinions and a few people would most likely leave if their ability to post was reduced. 

Sometimes I spend hours here, sometimes I spend a few minutes, sometimes I miss a few days.  But ehell is THE place that I post regularly and where I have been a member the longest. 

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