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blue2000:

--- Quote from: Twik on February 05, 2013, 01:23:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: VorFemme on February 03, 2013, 01:49:57 PM ---And I'd believe that you could smell any peanut oil - the stuff smells very different than the vegetable oils or canola oils in my cabinet - even if only smell it faintly enough to loose your appetite for the item in question.  Your body KNOWS that that smell means very bad things happen.......

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Also, my own (anecdotal) evidence is that you can smell allergens that other people would swear are odourless. I developed an allergy to a supposedly odourless chemical, and I swear I could smell it intensely as soon as someone opened the bottle across the room.

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Very true, in my own experience. Allergen smells seem worse than anything else.

The other day I could have sworn someone broke a bottle of laundry detergent at work (I am violently allergic to several common ingredients in most detergent). This stuff does smell, but really - I was getting nauseous from the stench and I have very little sense of smell at all. I was also starting to wonder why on earth no one came to clean the darn stuff up!

Found out later that they were setting up a display nearby and they had a large sealed and wrapped pallet of the stuff. No open/broken ones at all that I know of, and I still couldn't get within twenty feet of it.

jedikaiti:

--- Quote from: blue2000 on February 05, 2013, 04:05:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Twik on February 05, 2013, 01:23:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: VorFemme on February 03, 2013, 01:49:57 PM ---And I'd believe that you could smell any peanut oil - the stuff smells very different than the vegetable oils or canola oils in my cabinet - even if only smell it faintly enough to loose your appetite for the item in question.  Your body KNOWS that that smell means very bad things happen.......

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Also, my own (anecdotal) evidence is that you can smell allergens that other people would swear are odourless. I developed an allergy to a supposedly odourless chemical, and I swear I could smell it intensely as soon as someone opened the bottle across the room.

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Very true, in my own experience. Allergen smells seem worse than anything else.

The other day I could have sworn someone broke a bottle of laundry detergent at work (I am violently allergic to several common ingredients in most detergent). This stuff does smell, but really - I was getting nauseous from the stench and I have very little sense of smell at all. I was also starting to wonder why on earth no one came to clean the darn stuff up!

Found out later that they were setting up a display nearby and they had a large sealed and wrapped pallet of the stuff. No open/broken ones at all that I know of, and I still couldn't get within twenty feet of it.

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The scents in detergents drive my nose bonkers - I don't care if every shelf & the floor in that aisle was just scrubbed down and every bottle sealed and guaranteed not leaking, when I have to go down that aisle, I make it a fast trip!

VorFemme:
Update on Lil Sis - the food has not been "comped" but she's waiting on the emergency room bill and the results of an appointment with her doctor next week.

She is having symptoms that there is a set back in her medical condition (at least one of them) following the meal - nerve pain that had been slowly going away is back at the level that it was when she just got out of the hospital a year ago. 

If we'd asked about artificial sweetener......but everything was COOKED and heating most artificial sweetners breaks them down & changes the taste.....so we didn't expect artificial sweeteners in the heated sauces and foods.......I wonder if the development of Splenda (left handed sugar) has changed that?

Mental Magpie:

--- Quote from: VorFemme on February 08, 2013, 11:39:42 AM ---Update on Lil Sis - the food has not been "comped" but she's waiting on the emergency room bill and the results of an appointment with her doctor next week.

She is having symptoms that there is a set back in her medical condition (at least one of them) following the meal - nerve pain that had been slowly going away is back at the level that it was when she just got out of the hospital a year ago. 

If we'd asked about artificial sweetener......but everything was COOKED and heating most artificial sweetners breaks them down & changes the taste.....so we didn't expect artificial sweeteners in the heated sauces and foods.......I wonder if the development of Splenda (left handed sugar) has changed that?

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Why should it be?  I'm not being flippant, I just want to know why you expect that it should be because I don't.  They didn't do anything wrong, they didn't tell her that there wasn't artificial sweetener in it when it was, so why would they comp it?  It is very unfortunate that this happened to your sister, but I don't think the restaurant is at fault.

VorFemme:

--- Quote from: Mental Magpie on February 08, 2013, 05:23:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: VorFemme on February 08, 2013, 11:39:42 AM ---Update on Lil Sis - the food has not been "comped" but she's waiting on the emergency room bill and the results of an appointment with her doctor next week.

She is having symptoms that there is a set back in her medical condition (at least one of them) following the meal - nerve pain that had been slowly going away is back at the level that it was when she just got out of the hospital a year ago. 

If we'd asked about artificial sweetener......but everything was COOKED and heating most artificial sweetners breaks them down & changes the taste.....so we didn't expect artificial sweeteners in the heated sauces and foods.......I wonder if the development of Splenda (left handed sugar) has changed that?

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Why should it be?  I'm not being flippant, I just want to know why you expect that it should be because I don't.  They didn't do anything wrong, they didn't tell her that there wasn't artificial sweetener in it when it was, so why would they comp it?  It is very unfortunate that this happened to your sister, but I don't think the restaurant is at fault.

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We grew up before peanut allergies and a lot of others were widely publicized - and ALL food was made with real ingredients except "diet sodas" (which were limited to the one that tasted like metal to our family members so we didn't use it).

The development of more sweeteners that taste sweet but not metallic to most people and artificial fats has been a recent development.  If you are shopping for food at the grocery store - that information is mentioned on the labels or at least on the nutrition labels (aspartame & peanut products are, at least) even if nothing is on the front of the box, can, or jar about "Lite", "Diet", or "Reduced Calorie".

Going to a restaurant for a meal was a bit of the same expectation - if they aren't using "real food ingredients", then there should be some mention that they might have artificial fat, artificial sweetener, or artificial meat products in the food. 

I've since learned that apparently this is a very Twentieth Century attitude and that in the Twenty-First Century, having "artificial" ingredients in your food at a restaurant should apparently be taken for granted, not just in the diet sodas - even if there is no mention of "reduced calorie" on the menu.

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