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Faux Pas of the Year: Bride Lays on the Guilt
« on: March 25, 2007, 10:46:04 PM »
To give a little back story on this email, my husband and I were scheduled to attend the wedding of a friend of a friend. She and her then-fiancé had come to our wedding a year and a half prior. On the day of her wedding I came down with a bad migraine and could not go to the wedding. I didn't want to bother her during her wedding preparations with a call telling her I wasn't coming, so I instructed my husband to tell them when he got there, which he did. It was already too late for them to change the catering count so I didn't think that a few hours would make much of a difference and I really didn't want to give her anything to worry about before the wedding. A few weeks after the wedding we sent them registry gifts, one place setting of fine china, and one place setting of everyday china (close to $200 in cost). I just received this email from her today:

"We received your gift in the mail the other day and I must say that we were quite surprised by it. There are a couple of thoughts that come to mind about the gift, and about the events leading up to our wedding. 

First of all, we don't understand why our gift to you for your wedding was not reciprocated in monetary form, considering we gave you both a generous check.

Second of all, we understand that circumstances arise whereby a person cannot attend the wedding, and we are sorry that you were sick, however, we never received a phone call, which would have been an appropriate gesture, even though it would have been too late. The plate was already paid for, and each plate was a considerable amount of money. (I don't have to tell you that- you know how much weddings cost).

Getting to the point- the value of the gift did not cover 2 plates, let alone 1. We seriously have our doubts about whether or not a gift was even purchased which was from the heart, which would have meant more to us, or whether it was bought out of guilt, due to the fact that it got back to (your husband) that we never got anything from you. A great deal of respect was lost when a gift was received that did not amount to the cost of one plate, nor was not the amount given to you at your wedding. You know as well as we do that we did not do that to you, nor would we. If money is tight, than the response on the invitation should have been a "no".

We cannot contemplate now, or ever, the reasoning behind these events, but we are not the type to "let things go". We wanted to let you know our feelings about this. Not only are we upset, but disappointed as well. We have always gotten along well, and I cannot recall any time when I did something to offend you. More of a reason to not understand why you would do this to us. My instincts told me to tell you how we feel...it's more a matter of principle, which I was always taught to stand up for, then anything else. We appreciated the generosity of everyone who came because their gifts were sincere, which is why we are surprised by yours. If you want to write back, you can."

So if I am to understand her email, anyone who cannot afford to pay for their plates at a wedding should not attend the wedding... that would leave a whole bunch of very small weddings! Also, if she was so concerned about getting a gift "from the heart" then she should have graciously accepted what we sent her since I bought it based on the fact that I concerned about her getting all her china since I did not get all of mine for my wedding and my pattern was discontinued.

Oh, and btw, she only gave us a gift that covered about 1/2 the cost of her and her then-fiancé's plates at our wedding.

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I think most of us go through life believing that people, in general, are good hearted.  And then you read something like this.   The newlywedded couple who sent the email have essentially distilled the concept of relationship down to how much each guest gave them for their wedding.  If you cannot afford the per plate cost of the wedding, don't bother attending because money matters the most.  Just how guests were supposed to divine this information from a wedding invitation remains a mystery. 

The newlywedded bride's speculations about motives of the giftgivers is beyond bizarre and evil.  She presumes the absolute worst and moves in for the guilt manipulative "kill".  And joy of joys, she announces with pride that she and her new husband are grudgeholders and only concerned for their own feelings.

Get on your knees and thank the good Lord above that someone has advertised their rude boorishness so thoroughly thus saving you and your husband the pain, confusion and heartache of trying to relate to this couple in the future

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Re: Faux Pas of the Year: Bride Lays on the Guilt
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2007, 11:15:43 PM »
How many people expect to get in excess of $200 presents from "a friend of a friend"?

Plus, as other people have pointed out in other threads, how would you know exactly what a "plate" amounts to in advance, or even after the wedding? Should the invitations give a choice of "Beef ($50) - Chicken ($40) - Vegetarian ($35) - Remember, the open bar will cost at least $25 per person"?
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Re: Faux Pas of the Year: Bride Lays on the Guilt
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2007, 11:35:01 PM »
Why do I somehow doubt that one plate cost in excess of $200? And if that was true, then either (a) the HC should be able to actually AFFORD such a lavish wedding, or (b) the wedding should only be only for close friends and family, to keep costs down.

Just what was going through my mind.




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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2007, 11:48:56 PM »
Aside from the tackiness of expecting guests to 'cover their plate' with a gift, $200 did not cover *2* plates?! If the B&G were spending that much on food, then that's their problem. Yikes! I mean the fact that she thought this, let alone wrote it down, is unfathomable to me. And to not be grateful for $200 in gifts?!! I spend about $100....on REALLY GOOD friends/family!! She should have considered herself freaking blessed.   :o

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Plus, as other people have pointed out in other threads, how would you know exactly what a "plate" amounts to in advance, or even after the wedding? Should the invitations give a choice of "Beef ($50) - Chicken ($40) - Vegetarian ($35) - Remember, the open bar will cost at least $25 per person"?

But how else are you going to gurantee getting all your gifts?  ;)





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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2007, 12:12:24 AM »
Methinks Bride lied.   I also wonder what sort of letter the Bride would have written if the Writer HAD  called on the wedding day to say she wasn't coming?   I'm sure it was a case of the Bride looking for something to be angry about.  Plus, sounds to me as if the Bride had done some gossiping about gifts if "It got back to" the husband about their gift.


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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2007, 03:20:45 AM »
Perhaps Bride calculated the total cost of the wedding and divided that with the number of guests to see the 'cost per plate'.

I wonder how many other people got such nasty letters from the Bride?

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2007, 10:29:30 AM »
You know, I read this and thought it was a fake.  It's just so over-the-top rude, and the letter goes on for *ages*.  I think a truly selfish person wouldn't have wanted to waste so much time on a single email, and probably would have just basically written "You're cheap - where the hell is the rest of our gift?"

Of course, it doesn't excuse the rudeness!  Unbelievable.  I'm with the others - if they were spending so much per person, why were they handing out invitations like they were candy?
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2007, 12:56:21 PM »
The "cover the plate" idea is so preposterously unthinkable as to be funny.  Having learned of it just in the past couple of years, from this board and one other wedding-related one, I am appalled to see that it has taken hold like some great virus, corrupting the minds of brides, grooms, and apparently their otherwise-sane mothers, leading them to believe that extracting tribute from guests is not only correct, but traditional and expected.

And not only tribute---payment.   I begin to wonder if guest lists will soon leave off Dear Uncle Maurice and Sweet Aunt Thelma, ----who rescued the bride from the wolves who were raising her (but apparently not soon ENOUGH)---just because of their modest circumstances, and include some guy the FOB golfed with once, just because of his abundant coffers.

And will someone please enlighten me---do the ill-mannered couples expect an outlay of the actual PLATE cost, say $79.95 for the salmon per person, or is PLATE an acronym/symbol for the per-head cost of the entire wedding, down to the almonds and rice, the STDs and the little slip listing the couple's fifteen registry stores, up through the salon appointment and the charming buttbow, with the total expenditure (possibly including honeymoon) divided by number of guests?

In any case, the whole expectation-of-remuneration thing is too rude to contemplate.    A pox on all those who have such expectations, and to all the magazines, websites and "etiquette experts" who promulgate such drivel.

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Re: Faux Pas of the Year: Bride Lays on the Guilt
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2007, 01:01:09 PM »
You know, I read this and thought it was a fake.  It's just so over-the-top rude, and the letter goes on for *ages*.  I think a truly selfish person wouldn't have wanted to waste so much time on a single email, and probably would have just basically written "You're cheap - where the hell is the rest of our gift?"

It depends. Truly angry, unstable people have been known to write letters consisting of dozens of pages of accusations, justifications and explanations as to why they're right, and the other person is wrong.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2007, 01:10:53 PM »
The "cover the plate" idea is so preposterously unthinkable as to be funny.  Having learned of it just in the past couple of years, from this board and one other wedding-related one, I am appalled to see that it has taken hold like some great virus, corrupting the minds of brides, grooms, and apparently their otherwise-sane mothers, leading them to believe that extracting tribute from guests is not only correct, but traditional and expected.

And not only tribute---payment.   I begin to wonder if guest lists will soon leave off Dear Uncle Maurice and Sweet Aunt Thelma, ----who rescued the bride from the wolves who were raising her (but apparently not soon ENOUGH)---just because of their modest circumstances, and include some guy the FOB golfed with once, just because of his abundant coffers.

And will someone please enlighten me---do the ill-mannered couples expect an outlay of the actual PLATE cost, say $79.95 for the salmon per person, or is PLATE an acronym/symbol for the per-head cost of the entire wedding, down to the almonds and rice, the STDs and the little slip listing the couple's fifteen registry stores, up through the salon appointment and the charming buttbow, with the total expenditure (possibly including honeymoon) divided by number of guests?

In any case, the whole expectation-of-remuneration thing is too rude to contemplate.    A pox on all those who have such expectations, and to all the magazines, websites and "etiquette experts" who promulgate such drivel.

Breathing normally now.   Carry on.



It's amazing how many people think that the "cover your plate" system is actually proper etiquette.  I always counter with a gentle smile and answer, "Gift giving is never demanded by etiquette."  Lather, rinse, repeat.

As far as what the term "plate" actually means, for most people it is the per-head cost of the entire wedding, because that's how wedding coordinators do it.  Dinner, cake, drinks, seating, reception hall, entertainment- all of it divided down to the last guest.

Of all the things that have become repugnant to me about our society's treatment of marriage/weddings, I think this is my ultimate red-eyed, rip-snortin' worst.  The idea that your wedding is a fundraiser, that you (not the hosts) should clear a profit on what is essentially a party in your honor, the idea that a married couple should actually pay for anything they want themselves (honeymoon, new car, new home, new appliances- all should be provided by thoughtful wedding guests, no?)...

And don't get me started on baby showers.

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Re: Faux Pas of the Year: Bride Lays on the Guilt
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2007, 01:34:41 PM »
And don't get me started on baby showers.

No, please, get started! :D  I love your take on the weddings, so I'm sure I'd love (and agree with) the baby shower rant, too!


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Re: Faux Pas of the Year: Bride Lays on the Guilt
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2007, 01:52:09 PM »
You think this bride was something, check out this story. UNBELIEVABLE!  ::)
http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=1084.0
Covering the plate isn't enough, they wanted double the cost for the gifts to make a profit!
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2007, 01:53:55 PM »
Wow, my friends and I are so backward and silly.  We always viewed weddings as a party and reason to celebrate together.  The hosts (bride, grrom, parents) footed the bill.  People brought a reasonable gift within their budget, and we all ate, drank, danced and had a great time.  Wow, all this time, they (the friends who have been married) could have been gouging their guests for better gifts to "cover the plate"  ::) Sarcasm over.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2007, 02:17:09 PM »
And don't get me started on baby showers.

No, please, get started! :D  I love your take on the weddings, so I'm sure I'd love (and agree with) the baby shower rant, too!



Dotty, I blush... :-[

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Should I start with the moms-to-be who send out color swatches with the baby shower invitations?  The invitations they sent out for the showers they are hosting for themselves?  No, my heart is fluttering already...

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2007, 02:24:56 PM »
What is this "not from the heart" feces? Am I reading that the cost of the gift shows how sincere the giver was? Or what are we saying here?
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