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sylvia224

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I'm pretty new here, but unfortunately (or fortunately for entertainment's sake) I have lots of stories. One just happened a few days ago. I am the senior editor at a small publishing company, where we publish lifestyle-type magazines for various newspapers and other clients (think gourmet food, travel, interior design type publications). Anyway, I also have a baby due in six weeks, so I will be working half time from home as of January 1st. As a result, we hired a "managing editor" who reports to me, but will work here in the office full time. As senior editor, I work with the clients more, planning editorial, etc. and she will manage the schedules here in the office and write the stories that I don't have time to do, etc.

So managing editor (we'll call her Jane) started last Monday. We had finished our January/February magazines in mid-November, we are now at the point of proofreading them for mistakes before sending them to the printer. The graphic designer brings me a printout of a magazine to proofread. I tell her that she can give it to Jane first so that she gets used to proofing, and then I will look over Jane's edits when she's done. Graphic designer asks me if she should put Jane's name on the masthead (the part of the magazine that lists the contributors - sort of like the credits). I said sure, she is helping to proof it (rather generous on my part I must say since she hadn't worked on it at all, but whatever). Then on second thought, I told the designer to clear that with our boss (the company president) because he was planning to write a letter to our clients to introduce her, and I didn't want to disrupt his timing of that letter in any way. So graphic designer goes to the boss and asks him about it, he tells her to put the following:
Sylvia224, senior editor
Jane Doe, managing editor
Other lady, graphic designer
This is the natural order of things, so not surprising. Again, we really didnt' have to put Jane on the masthead at all, but wanted to make her feel appreciated, etcetera.

So Jane proofreads the document for the graphic designer, and then brings her changes to me, as requested. When she brings them to me though, the cover page, table of contents page and masthead pages are missing. I think nothing of it because it's very common for me to get these pages in stages, rather than all at once. UNTIL the graphic designer brings me the missing pages, marked up by Jane, with her jaw wide open. This woman (Jane) had instructed the graphic designer to cross my name off of the masthead completely. I cannot begin to explain how out of line this is - particularly for someone who had been working here for FOUR DAYS and was working under me! When the graphic designer ignored the request, she tried to get her to switch the order of the names, so that her name (as managing editor) was listed ahead of mine! This woman has done nothing but argue with me and challenge my authority since day one, but this really took the cake. 

I hadn't even gotten the chance to speak with her or my boss about the situation (hadn't recovered from my shock) when my boss came into my office, obviously very annoyed with her (I'm assuming the graphic designer must have told him what happened). Anyway, he promptly gave me a raise, "just so everyone's clear on the fact that as senior editor, you are still calling the shots." So I guess her power ploy didn't work out too well, and she only succeeded in getting me a very random, very welcome raise.

Anyway, thanks for letting me share!

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 04:50:25 PM »
I see in your future....nothing but drama with this woman for as long as she works there.  Which I'm sure will be a short time and that she will quit abruptly with no notice at an inconvenient time.

Fortunately, at least you'll be home, so you won't have to deal with her face to face too often.  Even more fortunately, at least your boss and support staff haven't fallen for her ill-advised coup attempt!

Good luck, I look forward to many jaw dropping updates!

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2006, 04:52:31 PM »
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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2006, 04:58:46 PM »
I'm sure the word will be out about her in no time at all... and she will have a tough time finding another gig.

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2006, 05:09:05 PM »
Since you are her boss, what are you going to do about her insubordination and back stabbing?

You still have 6 weeks to go.  How about finding a new managing editor?

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2006, 05:13:50 PM »
Since you are her boss, what are you going to do about her insubordination and back stabbing?

You still have 6 weeks to go.  How about finding a new managing editor?

Amen to that! Nip it in the bud! Definitely let her know it was inappropriate.  Have a "talk" with her about a week or so after she starts (just to check up).  Really, you just want to make sure she fully understands her function and her role. Outline it CLEARLY for her. 
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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 05:24:45 PM »
Chocolate Cake wrote:

"You still have 6 weeks to go.  How about finding a new managing editor?"

Hear, hear.  Trying to pull you off the masthead before you're even out of the office?  I disagree with talking to her, as suggested by rdge.  Fire this woman, and do it before she poisons the office dynamic.  She didn't do something like that "by accident", and keeping her around is inviting trouble.  Anyone who would even consider this at a brand new job is not to be trusted.

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 06:42:28 PM »
Uh oh ... she sounds like a serious nightmare in the making. How did she manage to get hired?!

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 06:50:45 PM »

I hadn't even gotten the chance to speak with her or my boss about the situation (hadn't recovered from my shock) when my boss came into my office, obviously very annoyed with her (I'm assuming the graphic designer must have told him what happened). Anyway, he promptly gave me a raise, "just so everyone's clear on the fact that as senior editor, you are still calling the shots." So I guess her power ploy didn't work out too well, and she only succeeded in getting me a very random, very welcome raise.

Anyway, thanks for letting me share!
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time for a conference with your boss about reopening the search for a managing editor -- making the change AND hiding it from you should not be dealt with indirectly -- this was a confrontation -- she is obviously not going to be a team player -- and raise or not, she will be undercutting you

time to find a new person and call her something besides managing editor perhaps? -- how about assistant managing editor to you?

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 07:02:43 PM »
"Uh oh ... she sounds like a serious nightmare in the making. How did she manage to get hired?!"

Gulp. Well - uh...I actually hired her. Because I'm an idiot! Honestly, I am. I was looking for someone Ambitious (capital "a" intentional) because I am just ready to take some time out to raise a human child, rather than a printed-one. So I must take some responsibility for this, I hired someone with some very out-of-control ambition.

I did talk to her about it. I brought her the page, and I get the impression that she is extremely bold about her clandestine backstabbing practices, but when firmly confronted about it she just crumbles. I asked her if there was some confusion about the way that we do the mastheads, and she said that no, she just thought that the client's should get used to seeing her name so that "they don't get confused." I just gave her a withering look, and I asked why, if she had made corrections to this page, she did not bring me this page with the rest of them. She turned beet red and said that she was sorry, on second thought she should have. That was the end of that episode.

I'm going to let the incident go because honestly, I'm too tired, overworked and pregnant to start over looking for someone else right now! I know I may regret that in the future, but at least there's the possibility of amusing stories.

P.S. This same woman takes the Christmas sweater phenomenon to an entirely new level - she actually layers them. A turtleneck printed with six million reindeer pulling Santa's sleigh is topped with a red christmas tree cardigan (with colored sequins), which then has a Santa Claus brooch pinned to it. Then she's got wreath earrings in her ears and brown cord slacks that resemble the trunk of a Christmas tree. A wolf disguised as Santa's helper perhaps? I don't mean to sound mean, I'm certainly not the world's most fashionable woman, but my goodness!

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 07:09:35 PM »
time for a conference with your boss about reopening the search for a managing editor -- making the change AND hiding it from you should not be dealt with indirectly -- this was a confrontation -- she is obviously not going to be a team player -- and raise or not, she will be undercutting you

time to find a new person and call her something besides managing editor perhaps? -- how about assistant managing editor to you?

agreed, grace.  managing editor just sounds like a higher title than senior editor.  maybe i watched too many episodes of Lou Grant back in the day.

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 07:23:36 PM »
sylvia, being just a teensy bit selfish, i look forward to the stories that you will have for us regarding Jane.   ::)

but as a part of our happy little band, and caring about you, especially when you're trying to get the time off to have your baby, i can't help but be concerned.  have your staff promise to report to you when "Jane" starts going into your office with a tape measure and fabric swatches, won't you?  perhaps Jane should go onto the masthead as editor, just editor.  appears that managing editor has given her delusions of grandeur.

and sorry about that bit of selfishness above.

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 08:44:31 PM »
P.S. This same woman takes the Christmas sweater phenomenon to an entirely new level - she actually layers them. A turtleneck printed with six million reindeer pulling Santa's sleigh is topped with a red christmas tree cardigan (with colored sequins), which then has a Santa Claus brooch pinned to it. Then she's got wreath earrings in her ears and brown cord slacks that resemble the trunk of a Christmas tree. A wolf disguised as Santa's helper perhaps? I don't mean to sound mean, I'm certainly not the world's most fashionable woman, but my goodness!

With that lack of fashion sense she doesn't stand a chance in publishing.

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 08:59:36 PM »
With that lack of fashion sense she doesn't stand a chance in publishing.

*snort*  i loathe all of those Christmas sweaters, tops, earrings, etc.  combine them all?  tasteless.

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Re: A blatant display of bad ettiquette - not to mention a bad career move
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2006, 09:32:20 PM »


P.S. This same woman takes the Christmas sweater phenomenon to an entirely new level - she actually layers them. A turtleneck printed with six million reindeer pulling Santa's sleigh is topped with a red christmas tree cardigan (with colored sequins), which then has a Santa Claus brooch pinned to it. Then she's got wreath earrings in her ears and brown cord slacks that resemble the trunk of a Christmas tree. A wolf disguised as Santa's helper perhaps? I don't mean to sound mean, I'm certainly not the world's most fashionable woman, but my goodness!
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